An Ohio native, McLaughlin was previously Ohio Governor DeWine's Political Communications Director and Vivek Ramaswamy’s Senior Advisor. McLaughlin was also a Political Contributor for ABC News.
She sounds like one of the dumbest assholes you'd never want to meet. I'm guessing she has some deep emotional scars causing all that hate. Wouldn't surprise me if she's all love and Jebus on a Sunday though.
doesn't even make sense. In 1910s psychiatry, "idiot" meant 0-2 years, "imbecile" 2-7, and "moron" 7-12 in terms of "adults with x mental age" - they were degrees of mental disability. Obviously now defunct, archaic, depreciated - but they're calling the protestors "5 year old 12 year olds!"
Hey, I'm gonna go out there and say plenty of them are Mr Garrisons. We see the same shit in any force. If you need headcount, offer the poor enough and they'll do it. Nit because they agree, but because shits so fucked they're being offered silver lining and more.
Always send your energy toward the head of the snake. Those coordinating, those leading. ICE grunts are riddled with fuckheads, but some of them are not. ICE team leaders are guaranteed fuck heads. Up and up and up, the bigger the fuck headery. Aim for the head.
Every force in history has socially worked this way
you're both correct. we need the numbers to go after the top because class traitors trade their morals for $50k. they are complicit in genocide because they are so desperately hungry that they think this is the only way to survive to tomorrow. but by doing that they make survival harder for everyone
Nope. If you're a member of ICE in the year 2025 you are an amoral piece of shit that deserves every bit of suffering the universe deals to you. "Just following orders" wasn't an acceptable defense 80 years ago and it isn't now.
Honestly the only reason I'm not advocating for direct violence against these monsters is because it will only make the situation worse. Let them burn.
Yes, leadership is to blame, but leaders are only leaders when people follow.
What ICE is doing is not a secret. No one, not a single person, is forced to join ICE. They choose to do so. Everyday when they show up to work, they reaffirm that choice. You're argument is we shouldn't blame the agents for choosing to break apart families, attack people for their race, or kidnap children because the ICE agent needed a job? Fuck that noise. If your personal ethos allows you to destroy other people's lives so you can have a paycheck, then you are morally bankrupt, and I absolutely will blame you for what's happening.
Sickens me that people are upvoting this and think this way. Oh won't someone think of the poor fascists. They need to provide for their families, so its okay for them to terrorize and kill indiscriminately.
These are not golden-hearted dimwits who just need to see the light. This is not a Disney movie with a villain redemption plot. These are fascists, do you understand what that means? They take pleasure in what they do because they think they are purging mutants and heathens for the greater good. The paychecks are a bonus. They are not using them to provide for their beaten children and raped spouses, they are using them to buy bigger guns to slaughter more "others"
You want to stay on the fence about fascism, go ahead. I can't stop you, I'm just text on the internet. But you are doing tangible harm to real people in this world by trying to white wash what is happening and giving a pass to the people making it happen.
That said, ya'll being dramatic about this getting a few upvotes. It takes about 0 braincells to half-read a comment while doomscrolling in bed, and then upvote it. I don't think it's worth calling people out for this, feels toxic.
This place, it hosts many personalities that are unable to empathise. It's why a simple comment reminding people to tap into empathy for fellow humans, reminding people to aim energy responsibly, it ends with this behaviour instead.
It really doesn't matter for the cause if the behaviour is just as toxic as the opponent, though. A piece of shit is just a piece of shit, no matter how much they claim morality.
But in this case, they're doing exactly what their opponent wants them to do. And if there's a lack of empathy, a lack of seeing the hypocrisy, I doubt there's much hope for clarity on that as well.
This is who you're choosing empathy for. Violent insurrectionists and pardoned felons who hide their faces, commit violence for the regime, and violate the sanctity of our rights. You can try to smear me all you want and claim I have no empathy, but it is blatantly clear I have much more than you. I staunchly defend persons of color, LGBTQ, women, children and many other targeted groups that the fascists want to put in concentration camps. I am willing to put my own safety and wellbeing at risk in their defense.
If you believe the fascists and their attack dogs deserve the same level of respect, empathy, and defense as the real victims in American society, you and I already know which side you're fighting for.
No I'm not. I'm not even talking about these people at all.
Weird your brain would just fire straight to that thought and then attack the straw man it made. You didn't even think about the glaring conflict against empathy that would be first, huh?
That your toxic irrationality and you can keep me out of it, thanks.
binary unnuanced thinking is a tool of the right. and this isn't me trying to be a "informed centrist, both sides are evil, let's maintain the status quo" motherfucker. it's simply a fact that for the last 20k years these cycles of rising violence have happened over and over again and the thing that always happens is the demagogues flatten all conversation into us vs them binaries.
part of how this system works is it strips people of their humanity by first not studying what it means to be human in school, and then by telling one class of people that another class of people isn't. it's a matter of susceptiblity to propaganda. nazis, idf soldiers, ruzzian militants, genocidal leaders in sudan, they all have the same core belief that they are the ones who are righteous and good for carrying out their acts, and the people they carry them out against could have avoided it by not being here.
by the nature of how america was founded then expanded every single white person living here today is here because of someone in their family tree or someone they knew personally who thought this way. all of us are much closer to becoming ICE agents through the leverage of the propaganda machines, misinformation, and poor education than most liberals are willing to confront themselves with. the most horrifying thing about the banality of evil is that all of us carry a capacity for it. if you really want to avoid it you have to audit it daily within yourself and work to keep the people in your life from falling for it.
once people are lost, they're lost. they become part of a great organism of hate that is driven by its leadership. that leadership must be removed and the people in the cult deprogrammed. some within the cult are lost forever and cannot be allowed to spread their hate to future generations. but if studying recent history has taught me anything it's that only 20% of this country actually gets what's goind on around here. 30% of this country are true, pure, hateful people who cannot be redeemed. and then the remaining 50% see both of those groups as the same and will go along with anything as long as there is a law that allows it and the proper paperwork has been filed.
ICE's rank and file for decades have come mostly from the 30% of pure vile evil, but now they're also pulling in people from the 50% and so far this republican regime has had all the paperwork they need to convince far too much of this country that all of this is fine and normal. you have to focus on breaking that myth more than you do on the individuals carrying out the atrocities because, to reiterate, they don't understand they're atrocities. they've been convinced that this is how the world works and better things simply aren't possible.
if you want to help, get organized and get active. get a noisemaker and if ice shows up in your community make a racket to disrupt their operations while your neighbors hide from them until the accute danger passes. and remember, this is a marathon, not a sprint
i upvoted as part of an overall discussion about what to do. don't be looking left and right look up and down. i hate every one of these bootlicking nazis. but i also won't waste my energy on them when i know how you get people to turn class traitor is by keeping them desperately poor and uninformed of history.
i also fundamentally think that when we're on the other side of this they all need to be punished for their crimes against humanity in the name of $50k
We already know why. They're cowards and collaborators who think they'll get to sleep at the foot of the bed if they obey and throw the rest of us to the wolves. They think they're noble and pious by sticking to the middle of the road, better than all of us. Who needs messy ethics and functional moral compasses when you can just claim you're above all the "petty squabbling".
Fascists only protect their own. Centrists are useful idiots and tools for the extreme right and always have been. They think they're safe by staying "neutral". What they refuse to understand is that they are on the purge lists like everyone else, they just aren't as high up in priority as the rest of us.
Just upvoted, because I believe in Arendt banality of evil. These are horrible movie collabs. Most are just doing their job. I think we should protest against them, sure, but they themselves are just cogs in the machine.
Also: this sort of divisive approach to a political discussion is corrosive to any good faith argument. That’s why I will not engage any further with this thread
I personally get freaked out when everyone gets super pumped up about treating a group as being subhuman and worthy of death, because that's basically the same argument people used against the immigrants and look where that went as soon as they got power.
Also, I have no idea what a typical ICE employee is like; it is possible that most or at least a significant fraction have never engaged in any fascist acts and have no desire to. Heck, for all I know, that ICE employee you took joy in watching die was actually working hard within the organization to try and make things better precisely because the violence was bothering them as much as it bothers you.
So, I totally oppose the fascist things that ICE does, and don't really even have a problem with people calling it a fascist organization since that is how it is being run from the top down, and I would even go so far as to say that no moral person can be associated with them at this point (although I have sympathy for the people who were working there before things took a sharp turn for the worse). But having said that, I prefer to follow the words of the Tao Te Ching, Chapter 31:
Good weapons are instruments of fear; all creatures hate them.
Therefore followers of the Tao never used them.
The wise man prefers the left.
The man of war prefers the right.
Weapons are instruments of fear; they are not a wise man’s tools.
He uses them only when he has no choice.
Peace and quiet are dear to his heart.
And victory no cause for rejoicing.
If you rejoice in victory, then you delight in killing;
If you delight in killing, you cannot fulfill yourself.
On happy occasions precedence is given to the left,
On sad occasions to the right.
In the army the general stands on the left,
The commander-in-chief on the right.
This means that war is conducted like a funeral.
When many people are being killed,
They should be mourned in heartfelt sorrow.
That is why a victory must be observed like a funeral.
So I (optimistically) look forward to the day when everyone doing these terrible things is locked away for our safety, or killed if absolutely necessary, but I do not rejoice in the prospect, except insofar as it means the end of the terrible suffering that they are inflicting on others.
I envy your optimism. Both the idea of it one day being all over, and that there are any consequences, seem to slip farther into the darkness with each passing day.
That does not matter to them. The far-right are completely unfazed by inconsistencies like that. In Sweden they started deporting immigrants -- well integrated, working immigrants -- because they had too low salaries. What was the limit? Higher than the collective bargained lowest salaries agreed on by the state and the union. Did the state raise the salaries then, because they just admitted they are too low to fucking live here? No. "Stay poor" is the message they want to give to citizens, and "go die" to immigrants.
They are deporting people because their job doesn’t pay them enough?
Who do they expect to do that job? Do they expect employers to pay more to the next person they hire? (Why not just increase the wage for the original employee?)
They are deporting people because their job doesn’t pay them enough?
Yes.
Edit: Not only that. But when the state is the employer! (In a broader sense, at least, eldercare is regionally organized, not nationally)
So since Sweden is part of EU and Schengen, it cannot deport EU citizens on this basis. So they tried to import EU citizens instead to fill the gap (who did not speak Swedish like the people they deported).
It is the apparent inconsistency of the salaries being too low and too high at the same time which reveals what their intention is: racism. Do they think the salaries are too low? No, because then they would approach the public sector unions and say "we fucked up, here is your money". It is only too low for some people. For some people, it does not matter if they speak the language, have a job, or whatever. Some people just need to go.
I just now compared this account on X to the DSHGov accounts on Threads and Insta.
Totally different attitudes. X is by far the place for rude, childish posts like this one. Threads and Insta look like standard govt accounts. Not surprised.
Yes I believe they're coordinating with Abbott. Basically, "We don't want to hurt you, Greg, but there are tons of brown people in your state who aren't self-deporting. Where are your political enemies concentrated?".
Abbott hates Houston…he loves that this is happening. No coercion needed, trust me. He’s just as evil as Trump, Miller, etc.
Every election he tried to put in new measures to make it more difficult to vote in the more populated counties because he knows it’s only a matter of time before the folks in the cities boot him and his asshole friends.
So the correct reply to any of those tweets should be "Tricia McLaughlin pandering to Trump's 'poorly educated' by speaking officially in her native language. Stay classy and professional, sister.."
How the hell is this a government official account in America? 🤣 Speaking like a fucking teenager online like they're trash talking in call of duty is deemed okay by the government now? Not very Christian of them...
It's a sign that they have reached a point where they feel like they can do whatever the fuck they want with no shame or consequences attached. They have nothing to lose because nothing happens except perhaps ridicule. Seems like they're okay with ridicule. 🙃
Where are the riots and where is the civil war that's months overdue? Come on America!
There are plenty of protests there and civil war has been brewing already. No official clashing from the state governments however there’s plenty of clashing between citizens and Federal. We don’t hear it because most if not all of it is blocked/being taken down. We only know this cuz we were in USA before March and stuff was brewing up for years at that point.
Edit: it’s not a matter of weather they will or not but more of a when.
Since… a couple months ago?? More like go quite a few years. Yeah it’s way overdue but it’s hard to say “yo this system is f’d up let’s over take it” when you’re physically outnumbered or your state that wants to succeeds from the nation however heavily relies on resources provided by other states/the nation itself.
I know we've had problems before, but in terms of criticizing others' decorum, the US is going to have no leg to stand on for, like, 100 years after this.
We didn't just end up at this, but voted for it and embraced it, eyes wide open.
Ladies and gentlemen, and all others, with the white house post, like many if the previous no one has declared it but I would like to be the first to declare " We have arrived" here is our future:
i know right now "laws" are on hiatus in the US not when the regime change happens, whoever wrote this must be sent to prison. you're speaking in the name of the government, there's no 1st amendment for you. the people get to insult you; you don't get to insult them.
Pathetic, vile, shameful, derelict...these words can't even fully describe the depths to which the US government is free-falling.
Any department or agency of government (if it has an official social media account at all, and I'm not sure any of them should) should provide news, PSAs...any type of helpful information for citizens to engage with it.
All of this was understood for so long with pre-internet communications; it didn't take nearly long enough for internet culture to erode this principle. All it took was an administration with no dignity or integrity.
Under no circumstances should any official body of government express a political opinion. Ever. Of any sort. But to carry on like a 12-yo gamer? These people are devoid of patriotism. They should be fired and placed on a watch list of fuckhead narcissists.
Part of the reason governments are supposed to speak with restraint and professionalism is so that you can believe they use their monopoly on the legitimate use of force with restraint and professionalism. This government casually speaks unprofessionally about how they're being lax with that power.
Lol this is hilarious and truly great. This really brightens my outlook on life and everything.
These violent criminal illegal aliens got kicked out of their home country because they were such degenerate losers.
Then they were literally paid to illegally jump our border.
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jontree255@lemmy.world · 252 pts · 262d
I wonder what racist little edgelord is in charge of the DHS account. They’ve been posting shit like this all year.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 126 pts · 262d
https://www.dhs.gov/person/tricia-mclaughlin
jontree255@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 262d
Ahh that POS
Marleyinoc@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 261d
She sounds like one of the dumbest assholes you'd never want to meet. I'm guessing she has some deep emotional scars causing all that hate. Wouldn't surprise me if she's all love and Jebus on a Sunday though.
sauerkrautsaul@lemmus.org · 58 pts · 262d
imbecilic moron sounds a loooot like the kind of shit I would have said in middle school to sound edgy and smart
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 27 pts · 262d
Imbecilic moron idiot dumb stupid head - official government communications, apparently
calliope@retrolemmy.com · 14 pts · 262d
100% correct.
They don’t even know how stupid they sound.
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 12 pts · 262d
It turns out that some people never mature mentally beyond that point, but continue to get older each year nonetheless.
Until recently that sort of behaviour would have been quite a barrier to employment, but these days it's pretty much a prerequisite.
#idiocracy was a documentary
funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 261d
doesn't even make sense. In 1910s psychiatry, "idiot" meant 0-2 years, "imbecile" 2-7, and "moron" 7-12 in terms of "adults with x mental age" - they were degrees of mental disability. Obviously now defunct, archaic, depreciated - but they're calling the protestors "5 year old 12 year olds!"
wow, good one.
Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 261d
So they're saying the protesters are trump's type?
piccolo@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 261d
They're upset that the protesters iq is higher than anyone in the trump administration.
bigfondue@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 262d
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 40 pts · 262d
I wonder if they hired that Big Balls guy from Musk’s Hitler Youth squad.
Edit: whatever happened to those kids? Are they titans of industry now?
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 262d
They’re in Fascist Protection.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 262d
Witless Protection
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 3 pts · 262d
Protecting fascists ?
Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 38 pts · 262d
Steven Miller
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 5 pts · 262d
Seems totally in character with their hiring choices.
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 216 pts · 262d
and they wonder why i don't shed a tear when ice agents die
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 132 pts · 262d
Some of us cry when climaxing. Maybe don't be a dick about it.
TheRealKuni@piefed.social · 52 pts · 262d
There’s no shame in crymaxing.
JollyBrancher@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 262d
Only crymin-maxing.
errer@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 262d
When you crymin-max you neglect cry roleplay!
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 262d
What about crylimsup?
renamon_silver@lemmy.wtf · 21 pts · 262d
They're dying? :D
Akasazh@feddit.nl · 7 pts · 262d
I mean I'd rather wish that on the ones that instated the fucking deptartment in the first place.
I so long for Nürenberg
Chivera@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 261d
How about a tear of joy?
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 261d
I might just start humming the battle hymn of the republic when that happens
saltesc@lemmy.world · -55 pts · 262d
Hey, I'm gonna go out there and say plenty of them are Mr Garrisons. We see the same shit in any force. If you need headcount, offer the poor enough and they'll do it. Nit because they agree, but because shits so fucked they're being offered silver lining and more.
Always send your energy toward the head of the snake. Those coordinating, those leading. ICE grunts are riddled with fuckheads, but some of them are not. ICE team leaders are guaranteed fuck heads. Up and up and up, the bigger the fuck headery. Aim for the head.
Every force in history has socially worked this way
cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone · 95 pts · 262d
just following orders doesn't cut it
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 13 pts · 262d
you're both correct. we need the numbers to go after the top because class traitors trade their morals for $50k. they are complicit in genocide because they are so desperately hungry that they think this is the only way to survive to tomorrow. but by doing that they make survival harder for everyone
sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 261d
If you only arrest the order-followers, they'll just fine more order-followers. You need to start at the top and work your way down.
smeenz@lemmy.nz · -2 pts · 262d
It does for the time being , and will continue to do so, until the fascists are removed from power.
Nobody is going to arrest those pricks until they're no longer protected
ThunderWhiskers@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 262d
Nope. If you're a member of ICE in the year 2025 you are an amoral piece of shit that deserves every bit of suffering the universe deals to you. "Just following orders" wasn't an acceptable defense 80 years ago and it isn't now.
Honestly the only reason I'm not advocating for direct violence against these monsters is because it will only make the situation worse. Let them burn.
darkmarx@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 262d
Yes, leadership is to blame, but leaders are only leaders when people follow.
What ICE is doing is not a secret. No one, not a single person, is forced to join ICE. They choose to do so. Everyday when they show up to work, they reaffirm that choice. You're argument is we shouldn't blame the agents for choosing to break apart families, attack people for their race, or kidnap children because the ICE agent needed a job? Fuck that noise. If your personal ethos allows you to destroy other people's lives so you can have a paycheck, then you are morally bankrupt, and I absolutely will blame you for what's happening.
Tippy@sh.itjust.works · 30 pts · 262d
Sickens me that people are upvoting this and think this way. Oh won't someone think of the poor fascists. They need to provide for their families, so its okay for them to terrorize and kill indiscriminately.
These are not golden-hearted dimwits who just need to see the light. This is not a Disney movie with a villain redemption plot. These are fascists, do you understand what that means? They take pleasure in what they do because they think they are purging mutants and heathens for the greater good. The paychecks are a bonus. They are not using them to provide for their beaten children and raped spouses, they are using them to buy bigger guns to slaughter more "others"
You want to stay on the fence about fascism, go ahead. I can't stop you, I'm just text on the internet. But you are doing tangible harm to real people in this world by trying to white wash what is happening and giving a pass to the people making it happen.
Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org · 8 pts · 262d
Well these are the people upvoting this shit, maybe we should ask them why?
echolalia@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 262d
I downvoted the top comment in this chain.
That said, ya'll being dramatic about this getting a few upvotes. It takes about 0 braincells to half-read a comment while doomscrolling in bed, and then upvote it. I don't think it's worth calling people out for this, feels toxic.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 261d
Yeah calling out people for voting feels like it crosses a line
saltesc@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 261d
This place, it hosts many personalities that are unable to empathise. It's why a simple comment reminding people to tap into empathy for fellow humans, reminding people to aim energy responsibly, it ends with this behaviour instead.
It really doesn't matter for the cause if the behaviour is just as toxic as the opponent, though. A piece of shit is just a piece of shit, no matter how much they claim morality.
But in this case, they're doing exactly what their opponent wants them to do. And if there's a lack of empathy, a lack of seeing the hypocrisy, I doubt there's much hope for clarity on that as well.
Tippy@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 261d
This is who you're choosing empathy for. Violent insurrectionists and pardoned felons who hide their faces, commit violence for the regime, and violate the sanctity of our rights. You can try to smear me all you want and claim I have no empathy, but it is blatantly clear I have much more than you. I staunchly defend persons of color, LGBTQ, women, children and many other targeted groups that the fascists want to put in concentration camps. I am willing to put my own safety and wellbeing at risk in their defense.
If you believe the fascists and their attack dogs deserve the same level of respect, empathy, and defense as the real victims in American society, you and I already know which side you're fighting for.
saltesc@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 260d
No I'm not. I'm not even talking about these people at all.
Weird your brain would just fire straight to that thought and then attack the straw man it made. You didn't even think about the glaring conflict against empathy that would be first, huh?
That your toxic irrationality and you can keep me out of it, thanks.
bitcrafter@programming.dev · -6 pts · 261d
You are doing a whole lot of smearing yourself for someone who claims to be the victim. 😄
bitcrafter@programming.dev · -1 pts · 261d
Yeah, I think that people often just assume that there is no path by which they could end up becoming a monster.
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · -1 pts · 261d
binary unnuanced thinking is a tool of the right. and this isn't me trying to be a "informed centrist, both sides are evil, let's maintain the status quo" motherfucker. it's simply a fact that for the last 20k years these cycles of rising violence have happened over and over again and the thing that always happens is the demagogues flatten all conversation into us vs them binaries.
part of how this system works is it strips people of their humanity by first not studying what it means to be human in school, and then by telling one class of people that another class of people isn't. it's a matter of susceptiblity to propaganda. nazis, idf soldiers, ruzzian militants, genocidal leaders in sudan, they all have the same core belief that they are the ones who are righteous and good for carrying out their acts, and the people they carry them out against could have avoided it by not being here.
by the nature of how america was founded then expanded every single white person living here today is here because of someone in their family tree or someone they knew personally who thought this way. all of us are much closer to becoming ICE agents through the leverage of the propaganda machines, misinformation, and poor education than most liberals are willing to confront themselves with. the most horrifying thing about the banality of evil is that all of us carry a capacity for it. if you really want to avoid it you have to audit it daily within yourself and work to keep the people in your life from falling for it.
once people are lost, they're lost. they become part of a great organism of hate that is driven by its leadership. that leadership must be removed and the people in the cult deprogrammed. some within the cult are lost forever and cannot be allowed to spread their hate to future generations. but if studying recent history has taught me anything it's that only 20% of this country actually gets what's goind on around here. 30% of this country are true, pure, hateful people who cannot be redeemed. and then the remaining 50% see both of those groups as the same and will go along with anything as long as there is a law that allows it and the proper paperwork has been filed.
ICE's rank and file for decades have come mostly from the 30% of pure vile evil, but now they're also pulling in people from the 50% and so far this republican regime has had all the paperwork they need to convince far too much of this country that all of this is fine and normal. you have to focus on breaking that myth more than you do on the individuals carrying out the atrocities because, to reiterate, they don't understand they're atrocities. they've been convinced that this is how the world works and better things simply aren't possible.
if you want to help, get organized and get active. get a noisemaker and if ice shows up in your community make a racket to disrupt their operations while your neighbors hide from them until the accute danger passes. and remember, this is a marathon, not a sprint
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 262d
i upvoted as part of an overall discussion about what to do. don't be looking left and right look up and down. i hate every one of these bootlicking nazis. but i also won't waste my energy on them when i know how you get people to turn class traitor is by keeping them desperately poor and uninformed of history.
i also fundamentally think that when we're on the other side of this they all need to be punished for their crimes against humanity in the name of $50k
saltesc@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 261d
Exactly 👍
Tippy@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 262d
We already know why. They're cowards and collaborators who think they'll get to sleep at the foot of the bed if they obey and throw the rest of us to the wolves. They think they're noble and pious by sticking to the middle of the road, better than all of us. Who needs messy ethics and functional moral compasses when you can just claim you're above all the "petty squabbling".
Fascists only protect their own. Centrists are useful idiots and tools for the extreme right and always have been. They think they're safe by staying "neutral". What they refuse to understand is that they are on the purge lists like everyone else, they just aren't as high up in priority as the rest of us.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 262d
Wait what are we upvoting? I didn’t get the memo
bitcrafter@programming.dev · -2 pts · 261d
Don't worry, it's not too late to join in! Just look for the comments that have a lot of upvotes already, and add yours to the pile.
Eq0@literature.cafe · 1 pts · 262d
Just upvoted, because I believe in Arendt banality of evil. These are horrible movie collabs. Most are just doing their job. I think we should protest against them, sure, but they themselves are just cogs in the machine.
Also: this sort of divisive approach to a political discussion is corrosive to any good faith argument. That’s why I will not engage any further with this thread
bitcrafter@programming.dev · -6 pts · 261d
I personally get freaked out when everyone gets super pumped up about treating a group as being subhuman and worthy of death, because that's basically the same argument people used against the immigrants and look where that went as soon as they got power.
Also, I have no idea what a typical ICE employee is like; it is possible that most or at least a significant fraction have never engaged in any fascist acts and have no desire to. Heck, for all I know, that ICE employee you took joy in watching die was actually working hard within the organization to try and make things better precisely because the violence was bothering them as much as it bothers you.
So, I totally oppose the fascist things that ICE does, and don't really even have a problem with people calling it a fascist organization since that is how it is being run from the top down, and I would even go so far as to say that no moral person can be associated with them at this point (although I have sympathy for the people who were working there before things took a sharp turn for the worse). But having said that, I prefer to follow the words of the Tao Te Ching, Chapter 31:
So I (optimistically) look forward to the day when everyone doing these terrible things is locked away for our safety, or killed if absolutely necessary, but I do not rejoice in the prospect, except insofar as it means the end of the terrible suffering that they are inflicting on others.
lIlIlIlIlIlIl@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 262d
After this is all over, we have all the receipts
None of these red hats will ever know peace nor polite society ever again
burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de · 0 pts · 261d
I envy your optimism. Both the idea of it one day being all over, and that there are any consequences, seem to slip farther into the darkness with each passing day.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org · 2 pts · 262d
Of South park fame? I don't see your point. But I haven't watched the most recent episodes 🤷
In any case, go onto THE POLICE PROBLEM and watch some of the videos. Nothing mitigating to see there.
s@piefed.world · 112 pts · 262d
So this is how we can get the current administration to acknowledge unemployment numbers
mumblerfish@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 262d
That does not matter to them. The far-right are completely unfazed by inconsistencies like that. In Sweden they started deporting immigrants -- well integrated, working immigrants -- because they had too low salaries. What was the limit? Higher than the collective bargained lowest salaries agreed on by the state and the union. Did the state raise the salaries then, because they just admitted they are too low to fucking live here? No. "Stay poor" is the message they want to give to citizens, and "go die" to immigrants.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 262d
They are deporting people because their job doesn’t pay them enough?
Who do they expect to do that job? Do they expect employers to pay more to the next person they hire? (Why not just increase the wage for the original employee?)
mumblerfish@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 262d
Yes.
Edit: Not only that. But when the state is the employer! (In a broader sense, at least, eldercare is regionally organized, not nationally)
So since Sweden is part of EU and Schengen, it cannot deport EU citizens on this basis. So they tried to import EU citizens instead to fill the gap (who did not speak Swedish like the people they deported).
It is the apparent inconsistency of the salaries being too low and too high at the same time which reveals what their intention is: racism. Do they think the salaries are too low? No, because then they would approach the public sector unions and say "we fucked up, here is your money". It is only too low for some people. For some people, it does not matter if they speak the language, have a job, or whatever. Some people just need to go.
maccentric@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 262d
*unfazed
mumblerfish@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 262d
Fixed, thanks
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 261d
"if you are unemployed, you should get a job"
SparkyBauer44@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 262d
perishthethought@piefed.social · 100 pts · 262d
I just now compared this account on X to the DSHGov accounts on Threads and Insta.
Totally different attitudes. X is by far the place for rude, childish posts like this one. Threads and Insta look like standard govt accounts. Not surprised.
Toneswirly@lemmy.world · 91 pts · 262d
The worst people on the planet are at an ICE facility, you got that part right at least.
Triumph@fedia.io · 51 pts · 262d
Defying court orders again.
Fourth box.
orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts · 33 pts · 262d
So when do we start shooting back?
village604@adultswim.fan · 32 pts · 262d
That's kinda up to you
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 262d
When Americans grow some balls
beetus@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 262d
ICE is supposedly heading to Texas next. I think they might shoot back.
badhops@sh.itjust.works · 37 pts · 262d
baaahahaha Y'All-Qaeda can't wait to goose step with these phuckers house to house
calliope@retrolemmy.com · 12 pts · 262d
I would be surprised if they actually went to Texas. They say cities in red states, but strangely they seem to never go. Hmm…
They want to do this in Democratic areas to hopefully ultimately reduce the number of voters.
Edit: I am no longer surprised :(
PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works · 20 pts · 262d
They’re here, in Houston at least. Red state but the big cities are blue. The people in Houston have no love for this shit.
ICE Houston makes over 1,500 arrests during 10-day operation
U.S.-born Houston teen says ICE agents beat him and his father during early-morning stop
And just 1 example showing how we really feel about it:
Houston Halloween display appears to show lynched ICE agent mannequins in MAGA-like red hats near Mexican flag
calliope@retrolemmy.com · 7 pts · 262d
Thank you very much, I appreciate the correction!
I haven’t been paying as close attention to the rest of the country because of the unending horror.
2piradians@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 262d
Yes I believe they're coordinating with Abbott. Basically, "We don't want to hurt you, Greg, but there are tons of brown people in your state who aren't self-deporting. Where are your political enemies concentrated?".
PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 262d
Abbott hates Houston…he loves that this is happening. No coercion needed, trust me. He’s just as evil as Trump, Miller, etc.
Every election he tried to put in new measures to make it more difficult to vote in the more populated counties because he knows it’s only a matter of time before the folks in the cities boot him and his asshole friends.
FenrirIII@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 262d
There's no voters to reduce unless they remove citizens. Illegal immigrants cannot vote, but they are included in census data
calliope@retrolemmy.com · 5 pts · 262d
That’s correct, but there are legal avenues for people to get citizenship and therefore to be able to ultimately vote.
Throw them out early, they don’t even have that option.
regdog@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 262d
> Works in an ICE facility
> Claims that "The worst human beings on earth" are inside there
Well, he is not wrong.
FelixCress@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 262d
I am lost for words.
WhatThaFudge@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 262d
16 out of 607 in Chicago had some sort of criminal history.
Yes the worst human beings on the planet are the ones working in there, not the detainees.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 261d
they aren't wrong, that building contains the worst people on the planet, the ICE agents
foodandart@lemmy.zip · 29 pts · 262d
Oooooh, lemme guesss. Someone that works in DHS gave their 15 year old asshat of a kid control of the account.
So professional and measured.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 262d
Steven Cheung is way older than 15.
calliope@retrolemmy.com · 5 pts · 262d
Every time I see a quote with his name attached to it I know it’s going to be something a fifth grader might say.
People in the future legitimately won’t believe how stupid, trashy, and unethical these people are.
As an aside, this would be the DHS person and not him. It’s always impressive how many phenomenally stupid people work for Trump.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 262d
No it’s apparently Tricia McLaughlin. (See above for link)
calliope@retrolemmy.com · 3 pts · 262d
I actually mentioned it wasn’t him at the end but I am loquacious so I understand not getting that far.
foodandart@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 261d
So the correct reply to any of those tweets should be "Tricia McLaughlin pandering to Trump's 'poorly educated' by speaking officially in her native language. Stay classy and professional, sister.."
BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz · 25 pts · 262d
Some of the WORST Human Beings on Planet EARTH! Like TODDLERS or Daycare Workers!
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 262d
I just assumed they meant Republicans.
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 261d
Don't forget firefighters
korendian@lemmy.zip · 21 pts · 262d
ubergeek@lemmy.today · 68 pts · 262d
Pretty sure our government is generally unconcerned with adherence to the law.
Its only illegal if the state decides to lay charges.
MrSmith@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 262d
Yes, and? What are you going to do about it? Use your civilian-owned auromatic guns to form a resistance? Lol.
Guns are for schools and compensation. Apparently.
fin@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 262d
It should be illegal to tweet like that of course
SW42@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 262d
Wow, satire has fallen on hard times. How could they possibly top this?
victorz@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 262d
How the hell is this a government official account in America? 🤣 Speaking like a fucking teenager online like they're trash talking in call of duty is deemed okay by the government now? Not very Christian of them...
It's a sign that they have reached a point where they feel like they can do whatever the fuck they want with no shame or consequences attached. They have nothing to lose because nothing happens except perhaps ridicule. Seems like they're okay with ridicule. 🙃
Where are the riots and where is the civil war that's months overdue? Come on America!
GarboDog@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 262d
There are plenty of protests there and civil war has been brewing already. No official clashing from the state governments however there’s plenty of clashing between citizens and Federal. We don’t hear it because most if not all of it is blocked/being taken down. We only know this cuz we were in USA before March and stuff was brewing up for years at that point.
Edit: it’s not a matter of weather they will or not but more of a when.
victorz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 261d
Yeah but when?! It's way too late! They already have a dystopia since months back, let'sfuckinggooo
GarboDog@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 261d
Since… a couple months ago?? More like go quite a few years. Yeah it’s way overdue but it’s hard to say “yo this system is f’d up let’s over take it” when you’re physically outnumbered or your state that wants to succeeds from the nation however heavily relies on resources provided by other states/the nation itself.
Also yeah meant whether* mb lmao
Sektor@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 261d
Nobody riots if they are not hungry enough.
victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 261d
Alright, well, I thought that was what was going on. 🤷♂️
Sektor@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 261d
No, you need to be desperate. People who know what they'll eat tomorrow are not desperate.
victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 261d
Right, I thought that's what was going on, but alright, I understood you the first time. Thanks.
ajmaxwell@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 262d
I hope there's video of the first ICE agent getting one through the dome. I won't shed any tears or feel any sympathy when a fascist gets killed.
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 262d
Im surprised it hasn’t happened yet
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 262d
I know we've had problems before, but in terms of criticizing others' decorum, the US is going to have no leg to stand on for, like, 100 years after this.
We didn't just end up at this, but voted for it and embraced it, eyes wide open.
undergroundoverground@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 262d
What, as opposed to smart morons? What a bunch of out of wedlock born bastards.
BigDiction@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 262d
At least there is some dissent in the replies.
Brutally embarrassing.
warm@kbin.earth · 13 pts · 262d
The Onion is getting a run for its money with this US administration ahaha
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 262d
You were all here for the first one, right?
iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 262d
Ladies and gentlemen, and all others, with the white house post, like many if the previous no one has declared it but I would like to be the first to declare " We have arrived" here is our future:
xc2215x@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 262d
It is so cringeworthy and tasteless.
Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 262d
Wearing cargo pants to a wedding is tasteless. This is ignorant hate speech.
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 262d
Clock is ticking on their rule. Expect more and worse til they get yanked
etherphon@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 262d
Ugh I just feel so gross living here nowadays, this much hate is not good for anyone's mental health.
pyre@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 262d
i know right now "laws" are on hiatus in the US not when the regime change happens, whoever wrote this must be sent to prison. you're speaking in the name of the government, there's no 1st amendment for you. the people get to insult you; you don't get to insult them.
2piradians@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 262d
Pathetic, vile, shameful, derelict...these words can't even fully describe the depths to which the US government is free-falling.
Any department or agency of government (if it has an official social media account at all, and I'm not sure any of them should) should provide news, PSAs...any type of helpful information for citizens to engage with it.
All of this was understood for so long with pre-internet communications; it didn't take nearly long enough for internet culture to erode this principle. All it took was an administration with no dignity or integrity.
Under no circumstances should any official body of government express a political opinion. Ever. Of any sort. But to carry on like a 12-yo gamer? These people are devoid of patriotism. They should be fired and placed on a watch list of fuckhead narcissists.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 261d
Part of the reason governments are supposed to speak with restraint and professionalism is so that you can believe they use their monopoly on the legitimate use of force with restraint and professionalism. This government casually speaks unprofessionally about how they're being lax with that power.
someguy3@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 260d
Lax is far too generous.
elbiter@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 262d
There is no such thing as US government. Only a bunch of bullies with extreme power.
Chivera@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 261d
If they are the worst human beings on the planet then why did Donny say he wants them to come back legally? 🤔
BroBot9000@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 262d
Twitter is run by Nazis. What else do you expect to see on that platform?
barnaclebutt@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 262d
Remind me. What happened to the SS after WW2?
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 262d
Oh oh I know this one! Mountain retreat in the Andes
But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 262d
They can’t get jobs cause you fucked up the economy
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 262d
So what is the utility of protests,, of asking?
IronBird@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 262d
historically they act as a show of force for what may ir may not happen if you ignore the peaceful request behind them
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 262d
So, if you never do anything else and authorities don't give a shit; nothing?
IronBird@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 262d
yup, hence...
waves arms around, looking at state of the US
FlexibleToast@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 262d
None. That's why it's acceptable to do.
Quadhammer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 262d
Networking and testing the state
technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 262d
It lets the state know who you are so they can attack you.
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 262d
I'm glad they didn't call them moronic imbeciles, that would be too far
Sektor@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 261d
Things may get even worse if you guys continue to jack off, watch Netflix and grind battlefield 6.
Shamber@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 261d
Said the jack off from his mom's basement
Sektor@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 261d
Regards from a country with free healthcare.
Soktopraegaeawayok@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 261d
Lol this is hilarious and truly great. This really brightens my outlook on life and everything.
These violent criminal illegal aliens got kicked out of their home country because they were such degenerate losers. Then they were literally paid to illegally jump our border.