A formal state apology was issued in 2014, and a compensation scheme for survivors was set up by the Irish Government, which by 2022 and after an extension of the scheme had paid out €32.8 million to 814 survivors.[4] The religious orders which operated the laundries have rejected appeals, including from victims and Ireland's Justice Minister, to contribute financially to this programme.[5]
Depends on the denomination, I think. Dunno about others but for Orthodox Christians the soul goes to heaven(or gets to be judged by God, actually) after 40 days because that's how long Jesus took to ascend after his death.
The common description of what the rapture is, is what came later. The bible does indeed talk about armageddon and the return of Jesus Christ. The idea people are just gonna be pulled into the sky is the non-biblical part.
Well yeah, I've read the majority of the King James bible. I guess you could count me as a Christian for several years, because I was in a church until I wasn't forced to go. Revelation is definitely the most interesting part that was included in that version.
Bunch of hell-bound papists in this thread, got it. For what it's worth, I'll speak up for y'all with the big guy, but...I don't know that he'll listen. You know, in light of everything.
Purgatory isn't a place, it's a process. You go through purgatory, not to purgatory.
It also helps to think of the afterlife as more of a state than a place, existing outside of time.
Mortal sins are those that must be confessed or you're screwed. If you die with some venal sins on the books you might still be ok, but not mortal.
According to Catholics, all sins can be absolved through confession, repentance, and penance. Suicide is a problem because you don't have the opportunity to do this, that's why they say all suicides go to hell.
The list of mortal sins is kind of funny (not ha ha funny). It's mostly boring stuff like not going to mass or sex outside of marriage but then murder is just mixed in with those. And like the commandments, rape is not explicitly mentioned.
How long does it take to absolve oneself of suicide using confession etc?
Could you use a slow acting incurable poison to kill yourself but then immediately repent?
Not to say that it would be a pleasant experience.
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LodeMike@lemmy.today · 132 pts · 269d
Least confusing Christianity lore
rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works · 44 pts · 269d
Oh mate, may I introduce you to the Magdalene Laundries?
AbsolutelyClawless@piefed.social · 39 pts · 269d
Shocking. /s
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 30 pts · 269d
Microwaving newborns is generally frowned upon.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 269d
But if you never truly sin, you render Jesus' sacrifice meaningless. Make it count!
SatansMaggotyCumFart@piefed.world · 10 pts · 269d
I think Jesus is too scrawny to properly render.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 268d
Through Jesus all things are possible
dethedrus@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 268d
Seriously.
Sous vide those suckers for better texture!
DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works · 24 pts · 269d
Spawncamping aint cool bro
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 23 pts · 269d
Fun fact: Everyone goes to purgatory when they die. You don't see the sorting hat to be placed in Heaven or Hell until the rapture.
nyctre@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 269d
Depends on the denomination, I think. Dunno about others but for Orthodox Christians the soul goes to heaven(or gets to be judged by God, actually) after 40 days because that's how long Jesus took to ascend after his death.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 269d
Climbing stairs for 40 days sounds like its own hell.
MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 18 pts · 269d
I mean, not that any of it is true, but the rapture shit was made up way later than the "original" text. It's fan fiction essentially.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 3 pts · 269d
The common description of what the rapture is, is what came later. The bible does indeed talk about armageddon and the return of Jesus Christ. The idea people are just gonna be pulled into the sky is the non-biblical part.
MutilationWave@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 268d
Well yeah, I've read the majority of the King James bible. I guess you could count me as a Christian for several years, because I was in a church until I wasn't forced to go. Revelation is definitely the most interesting part that was included in that version.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 269d
For my branch(es) of evangelicalism growing up, purgatory simply wasn't a concept.
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 269d
Purgatory was one of the big issues that started the Protestant reformation in the first place.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 269d
Bunch of hell-bound papists in this thread, got it. For what it's worth, I'll speak up for y'all with the big guy, but...I don't know that he'll listen. You know, in light of everything.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 268d
Hey, potatoes are pretty awesome
JcbAzPx@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 268d
LOL. The Catholics have their issues, but I'm not sure the Evangelicals have much room to be criticizing. You know, in light of everything.
missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 268d
average double Predestination enjoyer.
turdcollector69@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 269d
I'm such a degenerate, I saw evangelicalism and thought it was a religion for neon genesis evangelion.
SchwertImStein@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 269d
Not according to Catholic lore
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 269d
kelpie_returns@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 269d
missfrizzle@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 268d
yeah but like, would time flow linearly there? why doesn't God just keep the souls on ice and thaw them when ready?
yannic@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 268d
Purgatory isn't a place, it's a process. You go through purgatory, not to purgatory. It also helps to think of the afterlife as more of a state than a place, existing outside of time.
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 269d
ThrowawayPermanente@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 269d
Classic noob mistake, sucks to suck
tomiant@piefed.social · 17 pts · 269d
Ghastly business, that.
Pumafred9@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 269d
I feel like this would be classed as an 'Unsportsmanlike conduct' by the offense, resulting in an automatic bye into the afterlife.
ryan213@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 269d
Damn, this is dark like that overcooked puppy in my microwave.
village604@adultswim.fan · 10 pts · 269d
In Catholicism, isn't murder considered a mortal sin that confession doesn't absolve?
roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 37 pts · 269d
Mortal sins are those that must be confessed or you're screwed. If you die with some venal sins on the books you might still be ok, but not mortal.
According to Catholics, all sins can be absolved through confession, repentance, and penance. Suicide is a problem because you don't have the opportunity to do this, that's why they say all suicides go to hell.
The list of mortal sins is kind of funny (not ha ha funny). It's mostly boring stuff like not going to mass or sex outside of marriage but then murder is just mixed in with those. And like the commandments, rape is not explicitly mentioned.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 269d
Venal sins are cool, got it. What about anal sins?
titanicx@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 269d
Explicitly allowed, just ask all of the priests with their altar boys.
ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 269d
What if you can’t remember all of them
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 269d
Mortal sin, straight to hell.
Jacob_Mandarin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 269d
How long does it take to absolve oneself of suicide using confession etc? Could you use a slow acting incurable poison to kill yourself but then immediately repent?
Not to say that it would be a pleasant experience.
Cort@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 268d
Would you survive long enough to complete the penance?
Jacob_Mandarin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 268d
Depends entirely on how long it takes to absolve oneself. Thats why i was asking.
MissJinx@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 269d
oh no anyone can be absolved pff
Geodad@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 269d
ms_lane@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 269d
Childrens Limbo
Rooty@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 269d
AFAIK it has been retconned.
ms_lane@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 269d
Hate it when someone new gets a hold of the lore and has to change it up.
I finally got the rules for Catholicism 6th Edition.
Rooty@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 269d
And you know that all they did was reshuffle tables and remove the index so that you subcribe to the online reference.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 269d
Fucking Disney at it again!
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 268d
How low will they go
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 269d
Barry?
thatradomguy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 268d
🧐