Oh it's actually worse than that. Protesting isn't illegal, it's just that the government and the police get to choose which protests are allowed.
What this means is that they can have the illusion of allowing protests but actually ban protests but they don't like. Case in point, Tommy Robinson's rallies are allowed, but protests against the genocide in Gaza can be shut down if somebody mentions the words "Palestine" and "action".
Green Peace went militant and lost a ton of support. I’ve already seen this movie a few times now. The UK is making an example with Greta before a legit army forms behind her. Go against the grain, you get the ax.
They're explicitly instructing them to, with proscription and their crackdown on protest moreso than the Tories did.
We have red Tories in charge just now instead of blue Tories. It's the Democrats and Republicans in America all over again. And because both flavours of Tory are shite, people are dissatisfied and terrifyingly pledging their support to Reform (aka the fascist party) instead.
Your Party (socialists) and The Greens (environmentally focused social democrats-ish) are also gaining vote share but alarmingly not at the same rate as Reform.
What the actual fuck am I on about? Rudé Booty much?
I’m talking about loud voices with good opinions/intentions being silenced by the government so the government can keep power and profit before said voices get too loud.
He was using it as a counter example to the idea that if peaceful protest is being blocked, violent ones will be more effective. Not sure I agree with his take, but he's definitely not blaming Greenpeace for this.
31 Comments
vikingtons@lemmy.world · 127 pts · 231d
what a profoundly stupid country
if you make peaceful protest illegal, how do you think discourse will develop from there?
abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 27 pts · 231d
Oh it's actually worse than that. Protesting isn't illegal, it's just that the government and the police get to choose which protests are allowed.
What this means is that they can have the illusion of allowing protests but actually ban protests but they don't like. Case in point, Tommy Robinson's rallies are allowed, but protests against the genocide in Gaza can be shut down if somebody mentions the words "Palestine" and "action".
hexdream@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 231d
That's the point. The governments don't give a damn about you or the issues. You must simply never disagree with them.
minorkeys@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 230d
Violent protest will be inevitable, at which point their only option is force and it's a question mark what happens after that.
cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 231d
If only they had any experience of that in living memory.
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 230d
Why do you think they want discourse? Seems pretty clear they don't want people to be able to criticize the government
Jhex@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 230d
whoosh
TheAsianDonKnots@lemmy.zip · -5 pts · 231d
Green Peace went militant and lost a ton of support. I’ve already seen this movie a few times now. The UK is making an example with Greta before a legit army forms behind her. Go against the grain, you get the ax.
9point6@lemmy.world · 52 pts · 231d
What the actual fuck are you on about
This law came from the Tories silencing protest against genocide to appease their donors
The London Met are frequently caught being fascists who abuse women
And now we've got the least left wing labour government of all time happily not doing anything about it.
They're just letting the Met arrest anyone with any word resembling Palestine on them
Zombie@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 231d
They're not letting the Met do anything.
They're explicitly instructing them to, with proscription and their crackdown on protest moreso than the Tories did.
We have red Tories in charge just now instead of blue Tories. It's the Democrats and Republicans in America all over again. And because both flavours of Tory are shite, people are dissatisfied and terrifyingly pledging their support to Reform (aka the fascist party) instead.
Your Party (socialists) and The Greens (environmentally focused social democrats-ish) are also gaining vote share but alarmingly not at the same rate as Reform.
TheAsianDonKnots@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 231d
What the actual fuck am I on about? Rudé Booty much?
I’m talking about loud voices with good opinions/intentions being silenced by the government so the government can keep power and profit before said voices get too loud.
9point6@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 231d
My reaction was to do with your insinuation this has anything to do with green peace. Which it categorically does not
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 231d
The top-level comment was an allusion to the JFK quote "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable."
9point6@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 231d
Sure, and I was responding to the line that weirdly blamed green peace for something they had nothing to do with
stephen01king@piefed.zip · 5 pts · 231d
He was using it as a counter example to the idea that if peaceful protest is being blocked, violent ones will be more effective. Not sure I agree with his take, but he's definitely not blaming Greenpeace for this.
krigo666@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 231d
The only terrorists there are the UK police.
quick_snail@feddit.nl · 7 pts · 230d
Nah, there's a lot of other terrorists. Like Israeli.
galoisghost@aussie.zone · 41 pts · 231d
Using the forbidden words is terrorism. What a wonderful world we live in.
aesviation@lemmings.world · 27 pts · 231d
I like this Palestine Action group.
Meaningful change has never happened without people fighting back. Look at how many people got arrested during the Civil Rights movement in the US.
FundMECFS@anarchist.nexus · 3 pts · 230d
They definitely got Streisand‘
In the sense that now everyone has heard of them because of the UK‘s efforts to ban them.
JokeDeity@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 231d
The world is full of monsters.
observes_depths@aussie.zone · 17 pts · 231d
I don't care if someone holds a sign supporting a real terrorist group like ISIS, holding a sign is not a crime!
IronBird@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 231d
oi, you got a license for that sign mate?
HexagonSun@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 230d
Peacefully protesting used to be a license to hold up a sign :(
Coupable@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 231d
Subservient scum. ACAB.
mfed1122@discuss.tchncs.de · 13 pts · 231d
The citizens are gonna overthrow the fascism now right? I've heard it's very trivial to do
heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net · 12 pts · 230d
Sounds like UK and US are learning a thing or two from Russia
theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 231d
Thank you for protecting us from this dangerous terrorist. /s
MehBlah@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 230d
Someone is gonna kill that woman. Most likely whoever does it will get rewarded for it under the table.
Fleur_@aussie.zone · 6 pts · 230d
I can finally sleep at night
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 5 pts · 230d
Typical monarchist L
Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 231d