Why would they name him Achilles if they knew his ankles were a weakness. It’s well known how vulnerable the Achilles Tendon is to injury. It’s like giving the enemy a huge hint where to attack.
If they went all out like that I’d respect it a lot more. Give me the Odyssey but make everyone look straight outta Warhammer or something crazy like that.
Best I can do is Lou Ferrigno as Hercules. Just watch the whole trailer. The monster designs and other set pieces are pretty far out there for the time.
I'm not sure if this is c/bmoviebonanza material, but it's up there. Anyway, that's a solid community if you enjoy shlocky "how did this happen?!" movies.
Also, just dig through the Cannon Group movie list for more "throw crazy shit at the wall" gems like this. Some are hits, most are misses, and a few are really incredible misses.
It's just so obviously a vacuformed plastic shell that doesn't fit the actor that's wearing it. Has no visual relation to any of the other armor styles in the film, despite supposedly being from the same culture, time period, and status level.
He looks like a futurized, Coppola's Megalopolis interpretation of classical armor.
Without knowing any details on the movie other than "Christopher Nolans next movie is The Odyssey" and that appearing early in the trailer, I thought, Oh ok, cool, kinda doing something visually here, not historically accurate but an artistic adaptation like the 300 or something. Then the rest of the trailer is just, nope, normal Greece. So out of place.
Doesn’t even look like Greece. The lighting (or lack of) makes it look like they were going for the Scandinavia aesthetic or something, not the Mediterranean.
I read an interview with Nolan where he said that because he's red / green colorblind, he deliberately color grades his films to desaturate those colors and make the final result more accurate to what he sees.
Doesn't change the fact that bronze/ heavily pigmented ancient Greece is a horrible choice for such a treatment, but still interesting why he does it.
That when you're the son of a god, you get the cheap plastic props? What point are you actually trying to make?
By your logic, The Odyssey should have more impressive props, given the divine pedigree of the story and main character. But no. Batman looking plastic, grey colorless fabric, no bronze or dye in evidence.
I didn't get the reference, and you did enlighten me, so I feel like I'm supposed to say "thank you," but I really just want my minute and nine seconds back now.
Y'all realize that the Odyssey is fiction, right? Are you going to be upset if the Charybdis isn't period accurate? What about the 6headed dragon? Look too much like Tiamat?
This is reddit level media criticism. Mindless contrarianism over focused on trivial details. At least we're not arguing over the race/gender of the cast.
I don’t care about historical accuracy. For all I care they could be fighting in pink miniskirts if it looks good and makes sense with the setting of the story. I just think this is disappointing because he looks like a mall ninjas idea of a badass.
Every creatively dead Netflix/Prime fantasy franchise has the same shein-ass looking costume design nowadays.
Fuck period accurate. It just looks like cheap plastic shit! There's nothing wrong with deliberate deviations as long as they're well made. This is not one of those cases. This is more in line with Rings of Power or the Nilfgard fish armor. An obvious attempt to save money by using crappy props!
It's just fucking ugly. It stands out, does not sit right with the rest of the costumes, breaks immersion. Some stuff is just dumb. Like a medieval knight with a visor that only covers half the face.
42 Comments
Augustiner@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 224d
That helmet looks like my man is carrying one of these knives to battle:
funkajunk@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 224d
One? He has all of them.
CentipedeFarrier@piefed.social · 15 pts · 224d
My man’s definitely got one of these bad boys clipped to his belt. (Yes, the blades fold up)
dabaldeagul@feddit.nl · 6 pts · 224d
I'd cut my hand up so bad yet so quickly if I had those
reseller_pledge609@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 224d
Man's a mall ninja before malls even existed.
Augustiner@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 224d
Achilles is gonna load up on monster energy before he naruto-runs to vanquish his enemies.
And by vanquish I mean getting stabbed in the heel and fucking dying.
JaymesRS@piefed.world · 9 pts · 224d
Why would they name him Achilles if they knew his ankles were a weakness. It’s well known how vulnerable the Achilles Tendon is to injury. It’s like giving the enemy a huge hint where to attack.
So dumb!
Augustiner@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 224d
Poor guy. Classic case of nominative determinism.
Mothra@mander.xyz · 7 pts · 224d
Like with that Priapus guy. What a name
Not_Dav3@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 224d
"WHERE IS SHE?!!!" - Achilles, talking about Helen of Troy
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 224d
With a helmet like that, may as well cast GWAR and call it a day.
Augustiner@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 224d
If they went all out like that I’d respect it a lot more. Give me the Odyssey but make everyone look straight outta Warhammer or something crazy like that.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 224d
Best I can do is Lou Ferrigno as Hercules. Just watch the whole trailer. The monster designs and other set pieces are pretty far out there for the time.
Augustiner@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 224d
How did I never hear about this? I definitely need Hercules with lightsabers in my life now!
On a side note it’s crazy how many times the trailer guy said the name of the movie. Every sentence gotta involve Hercules at least once.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 224d
You're welcome.
I'm not sure if this is c/bmoviebonanza material, but it's up there. Anyway, that's a solid community if you enjoy shlocky "how did this happen?!" movies.
Also, just dig through the Cannon Group movie list for more "throw crazy shit at the wall" gems like this. Some are hits, most are misses, and a few are really incredible misses.
Augustiner@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 224d
Those are such nice resources that I didn’t know of! Thanks a lot, gonna dig into both in the next weeks.
AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 224d
It's just so obviously a vacuformed plastic shell that doesn't fit the actor that's wearing it. Has no visual relation to any of the other armor styles in the film, despite supposedly being from the same culture, time period, and status level.
He looks like a futurized, Coppola's Megalopolis interpretation of classical armor.
giantripdrop@piefed.social · 8 pts · 224d
Without knowing any details on the movie other than "Christopher Nolans next movie is The Odyssey" and that appearing early in the trailer, I thought, Oh ok, cool, kinda doing something visually here, not historically accurate but an artistic adaptation like the 300 or something. Then the rest of the trailer is just, nope, normal Greece. So out of place.
scytale@piefed.zip · 4 pts · 224d
Doesn’t even look like Greece. The lighting (or lack of) makes it look like they were going for the Scandinavia aesthetic or something, not the Mediterranean.
AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 224d
I read an interview with Nolan where he said that because he's red / green colorblind, he deliberately color grades his films to desaturate those colors and make the final result more accurate to what he sees.
Doesn't change the fact that bronze/ heavily pigmented ancient Greece is a horrible choice for such a treatment, but still interesting why he does it.
Son_of_Macha@lemmy.cafe · -1 pts · 223d
The odyssey is a fantasy epic which features a Cyclops, it was never historically accurate.
AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 223d
How about stylistically and thematically consistent? Surely, Nolan could have at least tried for that?
Again, multiple other characters in the trailer who are of the same status level, time period, and culture, but no consistency.
Egger's The Northman was an equally mythologically interlaced tale, but you don't see any vacuformed plastic there, do you?
Son_of_Macha@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 195d
The Northman wasn't based on one of the most famous fantasy epics ever written and the person wearing the helmet is half god.
AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 195d
So you're saying.......what?
That when you're the son of a god, you get the cheap plastic props? What point are you actually trying to make?
By your logic, The Odyssey should have more impressive props, given the divine pedigree of the story and main character. But no. Batman looking plastic, grey colorless fabric, no bronze or dye in evidence.
Son_of_Macha@lemmy.cafe · 1 pts · 194d
I'm saying it's a trailer how upset can you be, but you can clearly be very upset about everything. Do you need wipes or tissues?
AnchoriteMagus@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 194d
Only with aloe, please. I have sensitive skin.
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 224d
Meme reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfuiB52K7X8
PabloSexcrowbar@piefed.social · 14 pts · 224d
I didn't get the reference, and you did enlighten me, so I feel like I'm supposed to say "thank you," but I really just want my minute and nine seconds back now.
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 224d
Totally understandable. Have a good day!
jerkface@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 224d
Pen Pineapple Apple Pen
Randelung@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 224d
Heel Man
Honytawk@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 223d
Batchilles
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 223d
Where doeth thy bat chilleth?
slothrop@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 224d
I GOT I GOT ACHILLES BATMAN
yesman@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 224d
Y'all realize that the Odyssey is fiction, right? Are you going to be upset if the Charybdis isn't period accurate? What about the 6headed dragon? Look too much like Tiamat?
This is reddit level media criticism. Mindless contrarianism over focused on trivial details. At least we're not arguing over the race/gender of the cast.
Augustiner@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 224d
I don’t care about historical accuracy. For all I care they could be fighting in pink miniskirts if it looks good and makes sense with the setting of the story. I just think this is disappointing because he looks like a mall ninjas idea of a badass.
Every creatively dead Netflix/Prime fantasy franchise has the same shein-ass looking costume design nowadays.
XM34@feddit.org · 9 pts · 224d
Fuck period accurate. It just looks like cheap plastic shit! There's nothing wrong with deliberate deviations as long as they're well made. This is not one of those cases. This is more in line with Rings of Power or the Nilfgard fish armor. An obvious attempt to save money by using crappy props!
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 224d
Nolan: we'll fix it in post
Maury: the budget determined that was a lie
CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 224d
It's just fucking ugly. It stands out, does not sit right with the rest of the costumes, breaks immersion. Some stuff is just dumb. Like a medieval knight with a visor that only covers half the face.
Bakkoda@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 224d
It's called "immersion" and is kind of slightly important for story telling.
red_tomato@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 224d
This looks like a spray painted plastic prop for a Power Rangers movie. I want it to look like real armor that won’t crumble in one sword strike.
TachyonTele@piefed.social · 2 pts · 224d
I was hoping he was going to modernize the story in some cool way. But no, we get standard Greek fantasy.