James Cameron Says He Must Find a Cheaper Way to Produce the Avatar Movies in Order to Continue With Avatar 4 and 5 - IGN
https://www.ign.com/articles/james-cameron-says-he-must-find-a-cheaper-way-to-produce-the-avatar-movies-in-order-to-continue-with-avatar-4-and-5
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LordMayor@piefed.social · 74 pts · 212d
He’s preparing everyone for an AI announcement, isn’t he?
mastod0n@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 211d
It definitely sounds like that to me.
hesh@quokk.au · 58 pts · 212d
Avatar, one of the most profitable film franchises in history, needs to cut costs?
sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works · 39 pts · 212d
This one only brought in 1.2 billion dollars so far. It's only the 29th highest grossing film of all time!
Zorque@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 212d
It took two whole days to break a billion dollars! That's like an eternity!
Janx@piefed.social · 2 pts · 211d
If there's a single dollar giant corporations and billionaires don't have, they'll destroy your life to get it. That's why their limitless greed is so dangerous to everyone, it's quite literally never enough...
mannycalavera@feddit.uk · 33 pts · 212d
He could just stop making them? There's a thought 🤔.
TheGoldenV@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 212d
Cut the runtime by a third?
tomenzgg@midwest.social · 4 pts · 212d
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 212d
Or, hear me out, you could use your impressive creativity to make other non-Avatar movies that are beloved classics like you were making before Avatar.
The indiginous species have been oppressed by the shitty humans for 3 movies now. WE GET IT.
johnyreeferseed@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 13 pts · 211d
They also had the same bad guy for 3 movies...
FooBarrington@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 211d
And he got away again, I couldn't believe it!
ftp@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 211d
Wait for real?! Good thing I didn’t bother to watch 3 yet, after the end of 2 was just setting up yet another rematch.
FooBarrington@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 211d
Yep. Many parts of 3 were a literal repeat of 2, including whale hunting, a big showdown at the water village, and Quarritch AGAIN gets away at the end.
deacon@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 212d
Is this a story that needs telling?
reddig33@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 212d
He and the studio will just use this as a pretext to use AI.
Omgboom@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 212d
Hear me out. Muppets.
TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website · 11 pts · 212d
Hear me out … don’t produce another
iamericandre@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 211d
Bingo
pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 211d
If James Cameron's; Muppet Avatar: The Way of Fuzz happens, I might never watch any other movie, ever again.
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com · 18 pts · 212d
has he tried volunteering on set ? or perhaps a bake sale like US schools ?
ecvanalog@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 211d
It’s easy to joke about, but I feel like this is a microcosm of the problems plaguing Hollywood. The notion that a franchise routinely closing in on $2B a movie at the box office is somehow not profitable speaks to how absolutely unhinged the budgets are going in.
FatVegan@leminal.space · 6 pts · 211d
Everything about movies is just stupid. Napoleon dynamite cost 400k to make. Half of that money went into the jamiroquai song. Marketing for a movie costs more than a movie used to cost. A movie made 10 million dollars? Absolute failure. People like the rock get paid 50million per movie to just be there. I really hope Hollywood just collapses
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 212d
Dude it’s okay, you can stop, in fact many of us prefer you do
simsalabim@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 211d
roofuskit@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 212d
I guess they should can them and put the money into smaller original projects then... No? Just an excuse to fire most of the CGI contractors and replace them with AI?
mthomsonkiwi@piefed.social · 13 pts · 211d
Would making the movies cheaper translate into cheaper ticket prices? My local is $26 a ticket now. It's ridiculous! I'm not going to see everything that comes out when it costs that much, and we've got access to streaming now.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 212d
Easily done:
Although I'm assuming that the raw rendering pipeline is what costs the most. I could be dead wrong about that - there's a whole army of artists, technical people, and actors that go into such a production too.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 212d
It was a fucking Trilogy man.
Limerance@piefed.social · 10 pts · 212d
Make the next Avatar movie happen all inside one cave. From time to time messengers arrive from the outside and bring news.
FooBarrington@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 211d
I have an idea: cut the film length in half, remove the warfare and turn it into a nature documentary.
My mom really likes the movies, so I went with her to the cinema. I like the progress in CGI and have read their papers on water rendering a bunch of times, and I can feel myself getting immersed when things start off. They are beautiful worlds with so much creativity!
And then the warfare starts and it all turns into a CGI mess with no story value. Such a disappointment.
0ndead@infosec.pub · 7 pts · 212d
Nobody wants more Avatars
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 212d
The last one made over 1 billion. It is more accurate to say everyone wants more Avatar movies.
TerraRoot@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 212d
I watch the last one. I will not be watching avatar 4 or 5
Decq@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 212d
I had the same feeling after the first one after delaying watching it for 15 years. It's really not a good movie. I don't get the hype.
andyburke@fedia.io · 4 pts · 212d
Even most people who say they like it can't name a single character. They might name an actor, but a character from the world? Mostly crickets. It's really the weirdest franchise. I think people just like going to James Cameron's virtual worlds. 🤷
LordMayor@piefed.social · 3 pts · 211d
He could probably do a nature documentary set in that world for cheap and people would pay to see it.
It would spare us the tiresome dialog.
andyburke@fedia.io · 1 pts · 211d
... you got me. I would certainly consider seeing that.
TerraRoot@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 212d
I enjoyed the first, in the cinema in 3d, it felt designed to be watched in 3d, rather then the tacked on bullshit jumpscare the rest of the 3d era movies were
myrrh@ttrpg.network · 0 pts · 211d
sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 212d
The third one is easily my favorite. Action packed from beginning to end, and absolutely beautiful.
TerraRoot@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 212d
I sat and watched, didn't feel to bored, very surprised actually, but the test is, I feel, how much money would I accept to go watch it again? I think it would be quite painful.
sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 211d
I watched it three times and enjoyed it more each time.
sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 212d
It's amazing how everybody on the internet acts like the movies suck, but they're some of the best selling movies of all time. I love them. Especially the 3rd.
BertramDitore@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 212d
I think they suck story-wise, and are quite lazy with the overall plots, but they’re gorgeous and innovative, and have surprisingly good acting for the shit those people must have to go through, so I’ll continue watching and rewatching them even though I still think they suck. The visuals and world-building are what keep me coming back. It’s a very weird franchise, but it makes sense that people have such a love/hate relationship.
Get rid of the human characters and make it all about Pandora and it’d be pure gold IMO.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 7 pts · 212d
hasn't all the technology already got cheaper???
swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 212d
Not cheap enough, he should wait another 20 years
thejoker954@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 212d
In broad strokes - yes. But the refinement aspect is still expensive as hell.
There's a reason the films look so good. There is a lot of "invisible" work being done to tie everything together.
keyez@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 212d
This should be a fun thread
NachBarcelona@piefed.social · 5 pts · 211d
He could make blue giant dildos for merch, and simultaneously go fuck himself with one of those.
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 212d
Wow.. that means he will change the cast out.
sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 212d
What makes you think that?
Gerudo@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 212d
One of the easiest cost cutting moves in franchise movie making is replacing expensive talent. Why pay Sam Worthington or Zoe Saldana 30-45 mill each when you can get up and coming talent for 5 or less
sentient_loom@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 211d
I actually think this is a great idea. Saldana did a great job though. And Worthington was fine.
Edit: nobody's showing up for Worthington though. No offense to him.
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 210d
Because it is the easiest way to save monney
HairyHarry@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 212d
Yeah, maybe don't film in HFR anymore.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 212d
Source Engine?
Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 212d
Why is everyone saying he'll use AI? Boring or not, he did make visually amazing movies with cgi. What makes you think he'll cheat?
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 212d
https://www.msn.com/en-us/entertainment/movies/james-cameron-pushes-for-cheaper-vfx-i-d-like-to-see-the-cost-of-vfx-artists-come-down/ar-AA1LtLYs
he wants to be able to produce movies cheaper.
Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 211d
Vfx cheaper. But in this article and everywhere else he does stress "if they do make one". It's clear he won't if he can't. I don't think he would use AI.
mojofrododojo@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 211d
wish he would go back to making cheaper movies and working within a constraint set. his older stuff was way better.
MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world · 1 pts · 212d
…or find a way to make more people watch them, lol.