With a post titled "Bomberman has a lore?", I was expecting the post to be either surprised that Bomberman has a lore, or surprised that someone would have said Bomberman has a lore.
Especially when paired with the picture of a game's boxart, I thought that this post was about something lore-related on the box or in its artwork.
As to where to find the lore, I'd check the manuals, including manuals from other regions. For a lot of the 90s, the manuals were the best (and occasionally only) place to find lore!
Definitely include manuals from other regions! One of the greatest games of the 1990s, Secret of Mana, the characters did not have names — outside Japan. Once we all got online and we found out about Seiken Densetsu 2 (lit: Legend of the Holy Sword 2), we learned their names. The boy is Randi (not Randy, but the feminine version), the girl is Primm, and the little faerie/sprite girl is Popoi (which I guess is meant to be pronounced Poppy?).
I've been speaking English daily for at least 15 years and I still have no idea what's correct, just what "feels right".
That's literally everyone that speaks English. Including those of us for whom English is their native tongue. <- For example, I think I worded that correctly but I'm still not sure and I've spoken English for over 30 years now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
"Far to the north of BomberMan's hometown, Peace Town, lies the modern metropolis Diamond City. There, the evil Carat Diamond and his cohort, scientist Dr. Mook, are holding a Robot Tournament with robots specially designed for their combat and offensive capabilities. Hoping to steal BomberMan's advanced combat capabilities, Diamond has created a fake BomberMan to go to Peace Town and kidnap the real BomberMan. Aware of Diamond's plot, Black Bomberman heads out alone to face the fake BomberMan. But Black BomberMan is defeated and his castle is taken. Somehow Black BomberMan escapes and seeks refuge with White BomberMan, and warns him of Diamond's evil plan. Soon, wave upon wave of enemy robots begin their advance toward Peace Town. Now our two heroes must join forces to overthrow the evil Diamond !!"
Don't know about the old games but Bomberman 64 has a whole ass single player campaign. Can't remember the story. Can't even remember if I managed to beat it. But it was kinda cool.
Something along the lines of a inventor's daughter being kidnapped by an invention gone evil (black Bomberman), and you are the one who didn't go bad, trying to rescue her (which you do by the end).
I don't have the manual anymore, but it's findable online.
I think the story reboots every few games, so it's not like say, the Mega Man games where every game is part of one big continuity. There's a setting and recurring characters that's built up over the years and that's about it; everything else is specific to that game or subseries. Basically, the Bombermen (M/F), who may or may not be siblings, are some kind of space police from the planet Bomber and they have to fight a villain, usually but not always Bagura/Buggler, to protect the peace in the galaxy.
There is a bit of a rabbit hole (puddle, really) you can go into where some of the earlier games have a connection to the Lode Runner games, because Hudson Soft did the Famicom port of Lode Runner. What it boils down to is that Lode Runner used to be Bomber Man. This connection hasn't really been relevant for a long time, but the fact that Lode Runner is a Galactic Commando may have influenced the current setting.
The year was 1801. Great Britain had just instituted an oppressive colonial government to oppress his people. Bomberman vows to take up arms to overthrow the tyrannical government.
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otp@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 227d
I think you meant "Does Bomberman have a lore?"
With a post titled "Bomberman has a lore?", I was expecting the post to be either surprised that Bomberman has a lore, or surprised that someone would have said Bomberman has a lore.
Especially when paired with the picture of a game's boxart, I thought that this post was about something lore-related on the box or in its artwork.
As to where to find the lore, I'd check the manuals, including manuals from other regions. For a lot of the 90s, the manuals were the best (and occasionally only) place to find lore!
EvilBit@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 227d
They probably speak a Romance language as their primary language, as that’s how one would ask the question in most cases.
MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 227d
Yeah, I'm brazillian.
MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 227d
Well, I'm not a native english speaker, I'm still learning. Thanks for the correction, in advance.
otp@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 227d
I figured -- that's exactly why I shared that. Overall, your English is great!
MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 227d
Thanks! But there's always room to improve.
cerebralhawks@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 227d
Definitely include manuals from other regions! One of the greatest games of the 1990s, Secret of Mana, the characters did not have names — outside Japan. Once we all got online and we found out about Seiken Densetsu 2 (lit: Legend of the Holy Sword 2), we learned their names. The boy is Randi (not Randy, but the feminine version), the girl is Primm, and the little faerie/sprite girl is Popoi (which I guess is meant to be pronounced Poppy?).
Railcar8095@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 226d
Non English speaker here. Is "Bomberman has lore" correct for the meaning of being surprised it has lore?
I've been speaking English daily for at least 15 years and I still have no idea what's correct, just what "feels right". I feel like a flesh LLM
otp@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 226d
"Bomberman has lore?" as a question would generally be some sort of surprise or suggestion that it goes against expectations.
"Donald Trump is a young man."
"Donald Trump is a young man?" -- response to a statement that went against expectations.
"Is Donald Trump a young man?" -- neutral, general question (if additional context or tone is absent)
LePoisson@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 226d
That's literally everyone that speaks English. Including those of us for whom English is their native tongue. <- For example, I think I worded that correctly but I'm still not sure and I've spoken English for over 30 years now. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
otp@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 226d
If it's a statement, definitely.
"Bomberman has lore?" is generally not the standard formation of a yes/no question. They're usually formed for with the verb "do".
If one wants to know if Amazon sells books and wants a yes/no answer, one would generally ask "Does Amazon sell books?"
If someone is browsing Amazon and finds books unexpectedly, they would be more likely to say "Amazon sells books?"
However, in some dialects of English, the two might be interchangeable. I think it might be the case for Indian English, to give an example.
thingsiplay@lemmy.ml · 24 pts · 227d
- https://bomberman.fandom.com/wiki/Super_Bomberman#Story
bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de · 17 pts · 227d
Don't know about the old games but Bomberman 64 has a whole ass single player campaign. Can't remember the story. Can't even remember if I managed to beat it. But it was kinda cool.
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus · 8 pts · 227d
I emulated it recently. Yeah it has a campaign but it doesnt really do world building that much. Still an awesome game tho.
axx@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 227d
Saturn Bomberman has a fun campaign you can play with a friend too.
Grntrenchman@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 227d
I own the TurboGrafx 16 version, it was one of my favorite games for it. That was my only console as a child, good times. There is a cutscene at the start, and that's all the lore the manual offers too: https://r.mprd.se/TurboGrafx-16/TG16-PCE/EXTRAS/Manuals/Bomberman%20%28U%29.pdf
Something along the lines of a inventor's daughter being kidnapped by an invention gone evil (black Bomberman), and you are the one who didn't go bad, trying to rescue her (which you do by the end).
I don't have the manual anymore, but it's findable online.
massive_bereavement@fedia.io · 3 pts · 227d
Holy cannoli western cover art strikes again!
axx@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 227d
Possibly even more disturbing than the infamous Xbox 360 version.
HetareKing@piefed.social · 7 pts · 227d
I think the story reboots every few games, so it's not like say, the Mega Man games where every game is part of one big continuity. There's a setting and recurring characters that's built up over the years and that's about it; everything else is specific to that game or subseries. Basically, the Bombermen (M/F), who may or may not be siblings, are some kind of space police from the planet Bomber and they have to fight a villain, usually but not always Bagura/Buggler, to protect the peace in the galaxy.
There is a bit of a rabbit hole (puddle, really) you can go into where some of the earlier games have a connection to the Lode Runner games, because Hudson Soft did the Famicom port of Lode Runner. What it boils down to is that Lode Runner used to be Bomber Man. This connection hasn't really been relevant for a long time, but the fact that Lode Runner is a Galactic Commando may have influenced the current setting.
Battle_Masker@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 227d
That explains why a lot of bomberman characters don't feel like bomberman characters
realitista@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 227d
Love it. The tie in with Lode Runner is totally unexpected and hilarious.
mushroomman_toad@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 226d
The year was 1801. Great Britain had just instituted an oppressive colonial government to oppress his people. Bomberman vows to take up arms to overthrow the tyrannical government.
SGforce@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 227d
There was a spinoff too with a story. 'Atomic Punk'
thingsiplay@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 227d
And if you want, there is also "Wario Blast".
6nk06@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 227d
The SNES Bomberman have a lot of lore IIRC, bad guys from outer space and stuff. You could write some fanfic with that.
axx@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 227d
The Saturn version has a whole short film that serves as intro to the game too, with similar themes.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 3 pts · 227d
It would have to have lore... There was a couple TV series and Bomberman 64 was a traditional platformer with a plot and everything.
I don't know what it aftually is, tho, since I have never seen those shows or played that game. 🤷♂️
MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 227d
A Tv Series? Gonna check it out later.
SlurpingPus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 226d
This video probably illustrates well what game writing was like back in the day.
MeowerMisfit817@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 223d
Got some good laughs, both with the video and with myself trying to guess the games being referenced before their names were given.