Time to militarize and rule by nuclear terror

Good bye Euro Social Democracy, was fun times before being forced to rearm

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31 Comments

Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online · 37 pts · 231d (14 replies)

I can't wait to hear the americans say "Well, I didn't vote for him. And I voted for obama, twice!" as I'm being invaded. Very reassuring.

Tehhund@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 231d (1 reply)

In fairness, I didn't vote for him. And I voted for obama, twice! /s

fartographer@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 231d

I only voted for Obama once. The first time, I voted for John McCain. What a brainwashed fool I was. What a brainwashed fool I still am; for some reason, I believe that a magical someone is gonna save us all.

The world wouldn't allow us to commit such atrocities, right?

-Looks at Palestine- fuck.

n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 230d (1 reply)

Railison@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 230d

That’s a good one

ShamanRonin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 231d (9 replies)

It has taken too long, much too long, but a citizens resistance is coming. Some of actually realize the system is broken beyond repair and cannot count on leadership to do anything.

But it’s going to be long and sloppy. A lot of good people are going to lose their lives standing up to the world’s biggest military on home soil.

Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online · 10 pts · 231d (7 replies)

Making it seem so complicated is part of the calculated effort to reduce resistance. I invite folks to study how domestic resistance to the US invasion of Vietnam helped end US involvement.

I know it wasn't bloodless but a good solid first step is not feeding your (collective your) babies to the war machine and making involvement in the military industrial complex an unforgivable social sin.

promitheas@programming.dev · 7 pts · 231d (6 replies)

Whenever i encounter the "we cant revolt, theyll shoot us" argument from americans i always think to myself "so youd rather they shoot someone else in a different country then? Right"

Its clear subconsciously at least they think theyre superior and value their own lives above other nation's peoples.

Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online · 6 pts · 231d (3 replies)

Literally just be mean to a military recruiter. Hell just point and laugh or roll your eyes. Pull your kids from cadets. Shun ROTC participants. Refuse sponsorships from military contractors. Don't take internships at them. Tell them they can't have a float at your local parade.

All this talk about revolt and it doesn't really feel like most folks have even considered how impactful being mildly annoying can be.

Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 230d

This is helpful, but what's ultimately necessary is organization and revolution. Undermining the system isn't the same as replacing it.

promitheas@programming.dev · 3 pts · 230d (1 reply)

Im not from the US but ill be mean to any one of them i encounter

Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online · 2 pts · 230d

Same, comrade. This advice applies pretty widely.

spionspion@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 231d (1 reply)

They have to think about their families all the time.

Obviously an US american family is worth more than the world!

LemmeAtEm@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 230d

This is unironically the big moral dilemma presented by so much western entertainment media it's nauseating. "Would you pRoTeCt yOuR FaMiLy even if it meant the world/everyone else would die?" and the correct moral position, after much soul searching and garment rending is usually presented as: "Yes, fuck the world, you gotta protect you and your own above literally ALL else." And it's always so contrived, with such manufactured scenarios to ignore the fact that in the vast majority of both real and imagined cases, the better option for the world is also going to be the better option for your family. But constantly pitting the individual and their immediate family's interests over the well being of the community and society is fundamentally necessary to maintain the capitalist mode, so they gotta keep reinforcing that false dichotomy as some kind of universal conundrum that is best answered by being as self centered as possible "for your family."

Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 230d

Join an organization like the Party for Socialism and Liberation! Capitalism could never be repaired, and depending on a capitalist state to fix the problems created by capitalism is a losing endeavor. Reading theory is also good, I recommend my introductory Marxist-Leninist reading list.

Objection@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 231d (1 reply)

Militarize? We already spend more on the military than the next 9 countries combined. And we have 5 different wars going on right now that nobody can even name without googling.

Neither of those is a particularly new situation.

hamid@crazypeople.online · 6 pts · 230d

Both the US and EU are going to have to further militarize

CyberMonkey403@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 231d (1 reply)

As opposed to all the other years after 1945 when USA ruled by being nice and kind, huh?

hamid@crazypeople.online · 9 pts · 230d

Americans can always do more evil shit and militarize more

mlg@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 231d (3 replies)

n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 230d (2 replies)

what flag is that?

mlg@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 230d (1 reply)

SEATO

hoppolito@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 230d

Neato.

Gonzako@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 231d (3 replies)

It's more like "Rich oligarchs" to democracy

eldavi@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 231d (2 replies)

tow-may-to; tow-mah-to

Gonzako@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 231d (1 reply)

mind explaining this one?

eldavi@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 230d

people pronounce "tomato" differently; but it's a still a tomato however it's said.

Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 231d (4 replies)
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dessalines@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 231d (3 replies)

Please don't use sexualized attacks like that. This isn't reddit.

Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 231d (2 replies)

It may not be the most tasteful comment, would it have been removed if I used fellating?
Honest question, freedom of expression is important (even if not absolute) but censorship for this metaphor when he wouldn't even read it is a bit much IMO

dessalines@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 231d (1 reply)

Yes it would (or should). I don't think we should be using sexualized metaphors as demeaning attacks in any circumstances.

Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 231d

OK fair enough.
And thanks BTW for your quality work and contributions here and elsewhere.