In hindsight, I should've added a few more..
Repairability/sustainability: Easy to repair, sustainably produced.
Ethics: Anti-Big Tech (no Apple, no Samsung etc.), good workers' rights and supply chain. Preferably European.
Privacy: Speaks for itself. Privacy or anonymity, measures that foster it rather than feed data to others.
I feel like Fairphone would hit the Repairability and likely also Ethics (since it's a certified B corporation), but for Privacy, it'd be a Google Pixel with GrapheneOS... but it's Google, and given the CLOUD Act...
Maybe I could add accessibility there too, interface customisation (I like the iOS interface ways, but still, it's Apple), but that's a separate category.
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baguette@piefed.social · 51 pts · 204d
The 'Fair' in Fairphone relates to their practice to produce the phone as fairtrade as they can. Mind, it is not perfect and I believe they don't state that it is fully fairtrade either. This often gets confused that it is fair of them to make it repairable.
Dave@lemmy.nz · 29 pts · 204d
I remember when Fairphone firat came out, they talked a bit about their work. Their conclusion was that it was simply not possible to create a phone that had all parts from ethical sources, so picked some specific things to focus on that were high impact and achievable at scale.
It's likely the most ethical phone you can buy, but that is mostly due to how bad most phones are.
baguette@piefed.social · 5 pts · 204d
Yes, I think it is nearly phrased the same in the link somewhere. I guess they also have to consider that it doesn't get much more expensive than it currently is. If I remember correctly they also want to be an example for other brands, and lead the way for other brands to choose more ethical materials.
BigTwerp@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 204d
This is true, I would say it is currently the most ethical smartphone you can buy today, though. If you get it with e.os installed it is also more privacy focussed as well but as a heads up e.os doesn't work with some banking apps.
DmMacniel@feddit.org · 33 pts · 204d
You can install postmarketOS, Ubuntu Touch, /e/OS and the like on the Fairphone so no Google shit unless you want it.
Valthorn@feddit.nu · 29 pts · 204d
Fairphone even sells the gen 6 with the option to have /e/OS pre-installed.
Honytawk@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 203d
They also did with Fairphone 4 and 5
persona_non_gravitas@piefed.social · 11 pts · 204d
PostmarketOS on Fairphone is afaik FAR from ready for daily driver status. 100% for UBPorts Ubuntu Touch (on gen5 or gen4) though. Also iodéOS in addition to /e/.
FlowerFan@piefed.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 204d
Yes it is. Tried it on the 5, doesn't have speaker drivers, makes it fairly unusable. Alarm clocks, for example, are almost useless if they only work with your headphones.
Paddy66@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 203d
A Fairphone with e/OS/ on it.
timestatic@feddit.org · 5 pts · 203d
Preferably directly from the company Murena, as they develop /e/OS. Don't have to sideload and lock the bootloader or do anything, and devs gotta eat!
gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 203d
That's what I went with. It satisfies all three for me better than any other option on the market.
PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 203d
How long have you had it and how do you like it? Any major annoyances / limitations?
gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 203d
1.5 months. It's a worse flagship and it's roughly priced accordingly. No major limitations or pains, although because of the privacy stuff knocking out google programs by default I've had to troubleshoot an app or two to get the onboard settings right.
I'd recommend it to just about anyone except for maybe a grandma. Phones are largely set it and forget it though in my experience so even then it's a bit of getting every app loaded and set up and then never worrying about it again.
For instance lieferando I haven't gotten working but nearly every other app was pretty simple.
PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 203d
Rad, I'm sold whenever this thing becomes unusable. I'm on the lighter end of phone use so it sounds like I would lose absolutely nothing.
What do you use for maps?
gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 203d
I use Google maps and Maps which is based on Freemaps if I'm not mistaken. Google's directions are just miles faster and better than Maps provides but I want to start writing reviews in both and contributing.
PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 203d
Cheers, thank you!
Chais@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 203d
Too bad they went for the iOS look-and-feel 🫤
meldrik@lemmy.wtf · 4 pts · 203d
You could install another launcher?
Chais@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 203d
Of course I could. But iOS look-and-feel on an Android phone by default feels like a weird play.
timestatic@feddit.org · 1 pts · 203d
I just changed to launcher to Kvaerisito. There's like so many options to install
Chais@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 203d
Kvaesitso, for anyone wondering.
mapu@slrpnk.net · 14 pts · 204d
Fairphone /e/OS version hits all three
klairman@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 204d
I agree, the only (big) problem is that many bank apps don't work there.
gusgalarnyk@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 203d
Mine do, and every single bank app I've ever used works there as well. Admittedly that's three, but like 2 big and 1 small makes these claims feel antiquated.
klairman@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 203d
I could fine this post and actually you are right, the compatibility is much better now.
sol@feddit.uk · 14 pts · 203d
For those categories, it's gotta be Fairphone. Definitely wins in the ethics and repairability categories, and with /e/ I think it would be a decent contender in the privacy bracket.
A second hand Pixel with GrapheneOS might also be a contender. I think buying second hand is a decent ethical choice and GrapheneOS is probably as good as it gets for privacy. Not very repairable though.
marius@feddit.org · 1 pts · 201d
It's a bummer that /e/ does not support the fairphone moments feature
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 196d
What's that moments feature?
marius@feddit.org · 1 pts · 195d
Using the switch on the side you can activate a minimalist mode that reduces distraction https://shop.fairphone.com/web/image/3163357-3ba2e9eb/FP6_LessDistractions_1920x1080
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 195d
Wow, that looks zen as fuck. Yeah, bummer.
timestatic@feddit.org · 12 pts · 203d
Buy a Fairphone from Murena, the company behind /e/OS. That way you buy a mostly fair produced phone thats ethical. It's the most repairable there is and /e/OS is a deGoogled custom rom with many privacy features on top.
mapto@feddit.bg · 11 pts · 204d
There's also https://www.shift.eco/, but I don't think it beats the Fairphone.
eldain@feddit.nl · 11 pts · 204d
Jolla seems to be still around: https://commerce.jolla.com/products/jolla-phone-preorder
meldrik@lemmy.wtf · 7 pts · 203d
Jolla from Finland.
atro_city@fedia.io · 6 pts · 204d
Fairphone
es_eskaliert@feddit.org · 5 pts · 204d
Maybe the Volla Phone also?
Ashiette@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 203d
Zero (at home) reparability. Their customer service makes it expensive af to repair a unit.
I'm uncertain about the ethical part.
ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 204d
Fairphone.
Luffy879@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 203d
I bought my pixel from a local store. Please elaborate about the cloud act
birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 203d
Basically, the CLOUD act states that if a tech corporation has main residency in the US, it needs to provide a backdoor for espionage services, no matter even if data's stored elsewhere.
Luffy879@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 203d
Ill need to read into that, but AFAIK it refers to their cloud Servers, not the actual phones
Squizzy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 203d
If it lands in there, it has a shit camera! Which sucks
v3r4@lemmy.org · 1 pts · 204d
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 203d
Nah.