Police and ICE Agents Are on a Collision Course | Minneapolis may represent the beginning of a broader rupture between local police and federal agents.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2026/01/minneapolis-ice-minnesota-police-dhs/685736/?gift=6w1ifWHkIOfY4hnwEEtXbfn7FytSKKheDJ6Kaw1sgPQ
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UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 57 pts · 217d
The cops aren't on our side, idiots.
What fucking planet are you on?
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 217d
They don't have to be.
They're not on ICEs side either, because both groups want absolute authority and the other group to be subservient.
But do you legitimately need people to explain how fracturing the fascist law enforcement base is a worthwhile endeavor?
cynar@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 217d
The enemy of my enemy is
my frienduseful.TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com · 35 pts · 217d
No, it won't.
Trump will try to disband local and state law enforcement and make one big national police force.
And he will offer them so much money each of them will act like Bill Burr after Riyadh ... rich, quiet, and pliant.
yesman@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 217d
OH my god the libs still think the pigs are going to save them.
thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 217d
The police are not there to save you.
Lasherz12@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 217d
Police receive an opportunity to justify their enormous budgets and amend their civil rights abuses: no arrests made.
CircaV@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 217d
Not really, police do not protect people. If anything they will support the gestapo with crowd control etc
AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 217d
It's us versus all of them. We outnumber them. None of them will protect or save us.
Once you're done facing, accepting, and letting that sink in. Arm yourself and let's start organizing.
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 217d
They have tanks
ReasonablePea@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 217d
To be fair the us military has never been good at rooting out a guerilla force
mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 217d
they have to get out of them at some point. what're they gonna do, blast a suburban house?
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 217d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1985_MOVE_bombing
AlecSadler@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 216d
Can't they be blown up?
What if we just seal them inside somehow?
I assume if lit on fire using accelerants for long enough the people inside won't be doing great.
I'm honestly less worried about a tank than I am about 1000 armed and unhinged gravy seals. I'd argue we'd need about 20:1 ratio for that. Maybe a 20:1 for a tank too, but I don't foresee 1000 tanks logistically fitting in a small general area.
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 216d
These people are idiots, but I'm pretty sure that even they would have people on the ground providing cover for any armored vehicles. They would shoot you dead the moment you approached their "big boy toys".
hakase@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 217d
Fuck 'em both.
aesthelete@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 216d
The Atlantic continues its role as the rag of choice for hand-wringing, neo-liberal stupidity with this piece. Its content is a constant stream of bad takes by people that have fundamental misunderstandings of the way power and politics have or would ever work making fanciful predictions that betray a Disney princess's understanding of America, history, and geopolitics.
I read some amount of free Atlantic articles because their RSS feed -- probably unbeknownst to them -- provides a large amount of their magazine to you for free. Despite this, I find them to be fundamentally unserious and often not even worthy of the small amount of ad-free attention I pay to their writing, nor the effort to swipe their articles out of my feed. Without looking at the header, I could likely tell 100% of the time that what I'm reading is an Atlantic article, because the consistent tone of their contributors -- who are seemingly vetted by the editorial staff to guarantee that only the most lame-brained, navel-gazing positions will ever be published.
Just today, I read a piece of theirs by someone who thought it was important to dedicate such a large amount of nuance and verbiage to a discussion of whether or not Trumpism could be categorized as a form of fascism that he published at least a thousand words in what was practically a lengthy description of the odor over time of his own flatulence. All of this flowery bullshit purely to conclude how it was time -- finally time -- to say out loud that Trump is a fascist.
Like not only are you so late to the party that the caterers that were hired for it were deported by ICE months ago, but who fucking cares what you call it you stupid, pedantic fuck?
To return to a discussion about this specific Disney princess prediction posted here, the police will "collide" with ICE agents in the exact same way they haven't at all in previous days and weeks. The best you can hope for is that the police will not eventually collaborate with Trump's paramilitary and help brutalize the people of this country, and even that is something of a long shot.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 216d
After they shamed the public’s reaction to the Luigi Mangione situation without any empathy for the feelings of the American people I’d rather have diarrhea ladled into my face than ever read that pile of dogshit ever again
Threeskittiesinatrenchcoat@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 216d
Two public executions later, police are threatening to start enforcing the law. I’m thinking next will be a sternly worded letter, this is why people wanted them defunded, push comes to shove they don’t serve the community, they serve themselves.
luciferofastora@feddit.org · 2 pts · 215d
I think the added difficulty here is the collision between state and federal power, but not just a more-or-less standard "let the courts fight out whether that law applies" situation but an actual violent one. Even the most non-bastard "trying to uphold the law" cop might not be able to tell whether the executive power of the federal government can legitimately sanction these actions.
Essentially, "the law" they're supposed to enforce is not actually as clear as morality would have it, and the courts are taking their sweet time sorting it out.
WraithGear@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 216d
“a few more unsanctioned murders and im going to get upset!”
Deceptichum@quokk.au · 4 pts · 217d
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 216d
Civil war!
Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 215d
Many local cops are all on board with it.