Trump administration officials have reportedly held several secret meetings with far-right Canadian separatists who want to break free from the rest of the country.
U.S. officials met with leaders of the Alberta Prosperity Project, a fringe right-wing group of separatists who want the oil-rich western province to become independent, three times in Washington since last April, sources told the Financial Times.
News of the stealthy meetings comes at a time of especially high tensions between the U.S. and its northern neighbor. During a speech in Davos at the World Economic Forum, Canadian Prime Minister Mark Carney spoke of a “rupture” in the world order, in what appeared to be a veiled attack on the trade and foreign policies of Donald Trump – but without mentioning him by name.
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MagicShel@lemmy.zip · 75 pts · 189d
It's not enough to foment insurrection in our country, now Trump is doing it in other countries, too????
Yeah, yeah. I know.
👨🚀🔫🧑🚀
massacre@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 188d
We've done the latter since WWII, just not generally in allied countries.
Edit: ooof - just now seeing the "always has been" emoji. I'm owning it... whatever.
MagicShel@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 187d
FWIW, I'm happy to have context added to the humor in case there are any who don't grasp it.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 188d
tonytins@pawb.social · 39 pts · 189d
His threats for Greenland failed so now he is going directly for Canada. Again.
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 188d
There's no oil in mexico.
DOPdan@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 189d
So it's treason then?
shittydwarf@piefed.social · 9 pts · 188d
Thats a treason
DaddleDew@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 189d
American oil corporations have been financing those separatist groups and their astroturfing campaigns in Alberta for a while now. I wish the Canadian government called it for what it is. They are trying to make Alberta Canada's Crimea.
IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 189d
At least Eby was willing to say it directly.
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 189d
Hate to say it but I agree with you. I just find Eby to be an asshole who never should have been accepted as the leader of the BC NDP. He treats his constituents like shit, then turns tail when he gets backlash.
But as the old saying goes a broken clock is right twice a day.
otp@sh.itjust.works · 33 pts · 189d
They could just emigrate to the US
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 22 pts · 189d
But then other people would have it better than them. Right-wingers have to drag everyone down with them.
abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 189d
They don't want to give the people of Alberta the choice of being ruled by them.
ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 189d
I know hypocrisy is a big part of international relations. But can you imagine the aneurysm this administration would have if they found out that the Canadian government had been having covert discussions with fringe separatist groups in, say, Washington State? It would be tarrifs and tantrums up the wazoo. Hell, there would probably be troop build-ups along parts of the border and all sorts of crazy threats/actions.
But the other way around? Nah. It's all about the land-grab and American exceptionalism. "Rules for thee but not for me."
CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 189d
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 189d
Yeah we even have a flag picked out. That said BC's inclusion is more of a "we'd love to have them if they were interested" than a "we have the right to the whole of the pacific northwest"
FaceDeer@fedia.io · 7 pts · 189d
BC is Canadian. You can't "include it" any more than you can take Alberta.
Feel free to split up the United States however you like, that's your business, but Canada's staying Canadian.
CombatWombatEsq@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 189d
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 188d
Specifically Texas was obtained by inflaming a separatist movement then invading after it was cracked down on.
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 188d
Viva Cascadia!
whereIsTamara@lemmy.org · 24 pts · 189d
Trump officials in Canada should be considered hostile enemies and eliminated with prejudice.
Canadians who conspire with the US should be arrested for treason and sentenced to life in prison without parole, without external communication privileges.
fonix232@fedia.io · 21 pts · 189d
Trump officials have met with traitors. Canadian traitors.
What else do you call people who would happily give up their own country to a neighbouring fascist dictator? Not even to appease him and save their people, but to actually support the orange shitstain?
criscodisco@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 188d
Canada merely needs to look south to see what happens when you don’t punish seditionists.
SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 189d
Well this doesn't sound like any bit of good news.
Akasazh@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 188d
He's trying to do what Putin is doing in Europe but they don't have the opsec.
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 188d
He's trying to do what Putin has been doing to most of America. But to be honest, I'm not even sure that Putin has ever been solely to blame as much as wealthy oligarchs in Russia and the U.S. who created him and seem to be on the same team.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 188d
nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 189d
Looking for a Canadian Donbas it seems
tangeli@piefed.social · 11 pts · 189d
It's nothing new. Trump is just a bit less subtle about it.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 189d
Hey Canada California, Oregon, Washington and Hawaii would like to talk about an alliance of some kind
Fedizen@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 188d
Hell offer a trade. I'd happily join canada.
big_slap@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 188d
the world is accelerating to destroying the middle and lower class at an absolutely absurd rate, incredible to reflect on where we were a year ago and now
CircaV@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 188d
And AB will be TINY cause they can’t give away land that’s not there’s. Ie. Indigenous land.
adespoton@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 188d
I previously linked to a map of Alberta that shows the land that isn’t indigenous.
It’s a really small and disconnected area.
Kind of like the number of Albertans who want to separate.
My recommendation: they should just move to Idaho or Montana and become Americans.
CircaV@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 188d
Where? Just looked through your comment history and can’t see the map.
adespoton@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 188d
Well that’s annoying; my history only seems to go back 6 months; I added it last July I think. I’ll see if I can find it again; it was an official governmental map.
[edit] This isn’t the one, as it’s missing certain types of land, but it gives a feel for the situation: https://open.alberta.ca/dataset/04074608-dabc-49c6-b25e-840a4b2844ee/resource/3c91195e-9b5e-4c69-aa9e-963d4bec520e/download/ir-first-nations-reserves-and-metis-settlements-map-2025-10.pdf
Note that there’s also federal land that doesn’t belong to Alberta.
CircaV@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 188d
So an independent Alberta would be really REALLY small?! If I read this map correctly.
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 188d
Sorry to make assumptions, but if these right wing separatists are anything like American right wing separatists, would they not eventually just try to take it even if it wasn't officially given to them?
That's what I believe the U.S. separatists plan to do. Similar to the U.S.S.R., you'll probably see multiple states try to leave the union and form superstates. Once the larger superstates are formed they'll eventually join Trump's confederacy to invade, and attack their surrounding smaller states in order to force the remainder of the union to collapse.
Wouldn't be surprised if these Canadian separatists allied with them to eventually break up even more of Canada. In other words, it never stops with just one territory. The long term goal is to break apart countries piece by piece, and then invade to take over and reform all of North and South America.
There's this other fellow with similar goals in Europe. I'm not entirely sure, but I also suspect they (or more specifically the people who fund them) have been working together much longer than most people realize.
Seems like there's similar plans for the entire globe.
CircaV@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 188d
They are a tiny minority in AB. Most Albertans are very proud to be Canadian. That being said there is all of social media (US) and mainstream media (all US owned with few exceptions) which will amplify this. There’s only 5 million ppl in the entire province (there’s 6-8 million in the GTA as comparison). The main thing is they can’t take land with them that’s not theirs. It will start a war if these separatists get help from the US military to take Alberta. Also there is no independent Alberta, there is only Alberta as part of Canada or Alberta as part of the US. The US wouldn’t keep the name Alberta either cause it’s named after Queen Victoria’s husband.
AcidiclyBasicGlitch@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 188d
I'm not disagreeing with you, but war is always the point. It's usually a tiny minority, but these movements are backed by a global campaign of disinformation and destabilization funded by oligarchs trying to gain control of natural resources and global power.
It's preventable, but you just have to be prepared for wolves in sheep's clothing who rely on the victim narrative and in-grouping.
CircaV@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 188d
Agree. We know.
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · 6 pts · 189d
This would seem to fall in line with current foreign policy. Should we be surprised?
CircaV@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 188d
Foreign interference. That’s being said if AB wants to become part of the US they can fuckkk right off - you won’t be missed.
MehBlah@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 188d
They love having it broke off in em, eh?