France dumps Zoom and Teams as Europe seeks digital autonomy from the US

https://apnews.com/article/europe-digital-sovereignty-big-tech-9f5388b68a0648514cebc8d92f682060

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u_tamtam@programming.dev · 33 pts · 198d (6 replies)

France, Germany and The Netherlands are co-developing an open source suite of collaborative components for their government employees. La suite numérique is the French version, Opendesk is the German, and Mijn Bureau is the Dutch. I find that pretty amazing and I wouldn't have hoped for anything better!

illusionist@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 198d (1 reply)

There's even more open source stuff!

Batmorous@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 181d

Now if only we could get a Call of Duty Black Ops 1 Zombies open source alternative /s and hopium

reabsorbthelight@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 198d (1 reply)

They really should GPL it all. The US will steal it and create AWS services

Ferk@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 198d

At least for the German one, it's essentially a rebranding of existing open source products packaged/adapted to work as a suite.

For example, for editing documents they are using Collabora online (Libreoffice-based), for chat it's Matrix, for storage Nextcloud, email & calendar from Ox Cloud, etc.

victorz@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 198d (1 reply)

Are they three names for the same thing or are those the three components?

u_tamtam@programming.dev · 4 pts · 198d

Those are the program names, each having a specific "blend" of projects within

klangcola@reddthat.com · 21 pts · 198d

“Europe is the American tech sector’s biggest market after the United States itself. It all depends on trust. Trust requires dialogue,” Smith said.

Trust has been destroyed from the top. Trust is easy to loose and hard to gain

turbule@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 198d (1 reply)

Until they cancel the French government contract with Palentir , this is a show of Fake digital sovereignty

pete_link@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 195d

If France actually follows through with Zoom and Teams, it will be a significant step toward digital sovereignty.

iByteABit@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 198d (2 replies)

Considering moving to France so I never have to use the rotting garbage that is Microsoft Teams every single day

Ferk@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 198d (1 reply)

This just applies to the French government, unless you land a public job it's likely you'd still have to deal with that shit.

Still, it's good news and lets hope it sets a trend.

Batmorous@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 181d

Not hope let's make it a trend everywhere even in the States!

clot27@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 198d (3 replies)

So what are the opensource alternatives of meet and teams?

Doorknob@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 197d

Jitsi Meet would be the first one I think of.

AustralianSimon@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 197d

https://zulip.com/ is kinda cool.

TacoButtPlug@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 197d

signal

lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 198d
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Anon518@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 198d (3 replies)

It says they're switching to "Visio", but when I search that, I only get a "microsoft visio" product.

Flatfire@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 198d (2 replies)

"Visio" is their internally developed video conferencing platform. It's part of their "La Suite Numerique" suite of software, most of which is open source in large capacity

Anon518@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 198d (1 reply)

Ok, “La Suite Numerique” turns up the result:

I was able to translate the main site with Firefox, but the docs aren't translating. They have a language selection in the top right, but it doesn't work. I guess it's very focused on the French audience only for now.

Flatfire@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 198d

I wouldn't expect that to change. Their primary intention is in building out a suite of tools for use within their own government institutions, rather than a wider audience. If you're interested in self hosting though, the Github documentation is pretty much all in English