Experts often say that Trump is somehow unique, but I've never understood that idea. If anything, he seems far less impressive to me than a typical politician, due to his constantly broadcasting his low intelligence.
Anyways, I hope he is unique, since he's old and unhealthy. He'll personally be out of our hair pretty soon.
His low intelligence is the reason so many people love him. Well, not that specifically, but because he talks in a way they understand. The same way they talk. Combined with the belief that being rich (even if it's a farce) must inherently mean someone knows what they are doing, and you get where we are now.
No one claimed uniquely impressive. Trump is unique in somehow acquiring a cult-like following that is also fine with him violating what they claim are their principals and their own best interests, and even in the face of denying reality. I’ve never understood it - have they ever listened to him speak? Even before the evilness of his actions, how the heck are they hearing anything positive? Anything they wish to applaud or follow? Yet they do.
I seriously hope Trump is unique. His personality cult has somehow immunized him from limits and consequences, and we really cannot afford another.
Oh don't fool yourself. These people don't believe in anything. They believe in their self interest and that's it. There's no line they wouldn't cross, no lie they wouldn't tell, if it was in their interest.
You are right, I tell you who would be able to take it, is RFK, but his voice is a real deal breaker for the base? hard to give a nazi speech with that impediment. Vance was chosen because he's unlikable, so the president wouldn't be shunted aside for him.
Who else do they have? Kirk really could've had a real chance, barring any repudiation of Israel's plans for his organization that he spurned, along with their board p[r]icks for his own vision.
We have seen pop media people move over, Trump, Schwarzenegger, Reagan, but at least so far it's not been, ironically enough, political celebrities. They seem to prefer commentating from the sidelines rather than being in the thick of things. Easier to always be 'correct' when you are not actually accountable for your ideas.
This isn't discussed nearly enough. He was 100% groomed to be the next president. Do any of you actually understand Charlie Kirk would have been the American president. That is not talked about enough. Fun to laugh at, sure. But it was an actual reality. There were a lot of eggs in that basket. I can't prove it, but the assignation of Charlie Kirk may have significantly saved a lot of lives.
That guy couldn't argue his points properly with students half his age and he had the charisma of an orthopedic sloth. Future president my ass.
There's a reason his chosen format was what it was. The single biggest contribution to conservatism he ever did was get shot. Other than that one defining incident he mattered to them about as much a housefly.
The thing with politics today is that most of the time the hosts of the debate don't have the courage to enforce the rules of debate. If you talk out of turn they should turn your mic off and verbally scold you. Shut your mouth or else we will end this debate and give the remainder of this time to your opponent without any censor.
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ceenote@lemmy.world · 92 pts · 215d
He really wasn't. As more offline people found out who he was, it quickly became clear that most people found him repulsive.
FaceDeer@fedia.io · 71 pts · 215d
And Trump isn't repulsive?
ceenote@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 215d
With Trump, people either idolize or loath him. With Charlie Kirk, people either kinda like him or loath him. There's a significant difference.
collapse_already@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 214d
I feel like most people looked at Charlie Kirk and thought, "I probably would have bullied him if we had gone to high school together."
BillyClark@piefed.social · 11 pts · 215d
Experts often say that Trump is somehow unique, but I've never understood that idea. If anything, he seems far less impressive to me than a typical politician, due to his constantly broadcasting his low intelligence.
Anyways, I hope he is unique, since he's old and unhealthy. He'll personally be out of our hair pretty soon.
halcyoncmdr@piefed.social · 17 pts · 215d
His low intelligence is the reason so many people love him. Well, not that specifically, but because he talks in a way they understand. The same way they talk. Combined with the belief that being rich (even if it's a farce) must inherently mean someone knows what they are doing, and you get where we are now.
jaennaet@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 215d
WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 215d
Everyone else: please stop fucking children!
Conservatives: ...well...
AA5B@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 212d
No one claimed uniquely impressive. Trump is unique in somehow acquiring a cult-like following that is also fine with him violating what they claim are their principals and their own best interests, and even in the face of denying reality. I’ve never understood it - have they ever listened to him speak? Even before the evilness of his actions, how the heck are they hearing anything positive? Anything they wish to applaud or follow? Yet they do.
I seriously hope Trump is unique. His personality cult has somehow immunized him from limits and consequences, and we really cannot afford another.
ramasses@social.ozymandias.club · 4 pts · 215d
He was a republican podcaster, and thats what it is. (also can u let me know if this comment federates, new instance)
Yondoza@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 215d
Test successful.
jrubal1462@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 215d
👍
doug@lemmy.today · 45 pts · 215d
Nowadays he couldn’t even be neck and neck with anyone.
doug@lemmy.today · 27 pts · 215d
He wouldn’t even have a shot.
…another one anyway.
doug@lemmy.today · 23 pts · 215d
There was a time when I wasn’t sure if he was serious about his beliefs or if he was just trolling. I see now he was dead serious.
doug@lemmy.today · 13 pts · 215d
Thank you I’ll be here all week try the fish.
archonet@lemy.lol · 6 pts · 215d
no, thank you, doug
hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 215d
His JFK any% Speedrun was seriously impressive
darkdemize@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 215d
I'm just glad to see he finally leaned left in the end.
hector@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 214d
Oh don't fool yourself. These people don't believe in anything. They believe in their self interest and that's it. There's no line they wouldn't cross, no lie they wouldn't tell, if it was in their interest.
doug@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 214d
(twas a joke about him being dead)
hector@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 214d
Well we can still argue about the caliber of stances I suppose.
hector@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 214d
He could still slug it out for the nomination though.
criss_cross@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 214d
He was a fountain of youth in his heyday.
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · 30 pts · 215d
His fans gush for him just as he gushed all over his fans.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 215d
Want really his trajectory anyway.
Way easier to just cash in from the sidelines and take the profits without the potential accountability of actually being in any office.
Most celebrity commentators never go anywhere near an actual office. Whether they be left or right.
ameancow@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 214d
hector@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 214d
You are right, I tell you who would be able to take it, is RFK, but his voice is a real deal breaker for the base? hard to give a nazi speech with that impediment. Vance was chosen because he's unlikable, so the president wouldn't be shunted aside for him.
Who else do they have? Kirk really could've had a real chance, barring any repudiation of Israel's plans for his organization that he spurned, along with their board p[r]icks for his own vision.
Katana314@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 214d
I wonder how many people would have said the same about reality TV host Donald Trump.
jj4211@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 214d
We have seen pop media people move over, Trump, Schwarzenegger, Reagan, but at least so far it's not been, ironically enough, political celebrities. They seem to prefer commentating from the sidelines rather than being in the thick of things. Easier to always be 'correct' when you are not actually accountable for your ideas.
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · 14 pts · 215d
Sic semper tyrannis.
RaoulDuke25@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 215d
He was too left leaning before he died.
dellish@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 215d
*As he died.
Davel23@fedia.io · 11 pts · 215d
Of NAMBLA, maybe.
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 10 pts · 215d
He seemed like was too easy to.... trigger
zbyte64@awful.systems · 8 pts · 214d
Love how they assume Erika could never follow in his footsteps
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 214d
Were you expecting different? Because that is exactly what I expect.
I also agree with him, by the way, Erika Kirk is a fucking ghoul that might actually be worse than Charlie.
m3t00@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 214d
groomed from an early age, no doubt
Inucune@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 214d
God called him home... Possibly on the nitro express.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 214d
Weird. I heard he caught the 308 out of town.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 214d
This isn't discussed nearly enough. He was 100% groomed to be the next president. Do any of you actually understand Charlie Kirk would have been the American president. That is not talked about enough. Fun to laugh at, sure. But it was an actual reality. There were a lot of eggs in that basket. I can't prove it, but the assignation of Charlie Kirk may have significantly saved a lot of lives.
HikingVet@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 214d
He was a mid field podcaster that still had to do in person debates on college campuses against people who wandered by his booth.
FloatingAlong@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 214d
Donald Trump has always been an openly racist moron and sexual predator.
And yet here we are.
HikingVet@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 214d
Yeah, but Donald had brand recognition and billions from daddy. ole fountain neck was still doing crowd work.
LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 214d
assignation?
OldChicoAle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 214d
Assignation of unliving status.
thax@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 214d
andxz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 214d
That guy couldn't argue his points properly with students half his age and he had the charisma of an orthopedic sloth. Future president my ass.
There's a reason his chosen format was what it was. The single biggest contribution to conservatism he ever did was get shot. Other than that one defining incident he mattered to them about as much a housefly.
Knightfox@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 214d
The thing with politics today is that most of the time the hosts of the debate don't have the courage to enforce the rules of debate. If you talk out of turn they should turn your mic off and verbally scold you. Shut your mouth or else we will end this debate and give the remainder of this time to your opponent without any censor.
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 3 pts · 215d
Metaphorically, luckily not literally.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 214d
Lincoln, Kennedy, Kirk.
spacemagick@mastodon.social · 2 pts · 214d
@ickplant
ROTF (so to speak)