Bitwarden 2026 Data Privacy Week survey results

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Source: https://bitwarden.com/blog/data-privacy-day/

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Samsy@lemmy.ml · 102 pts · 181d (29 replies)

Can't believe people always use this crypto-spam browser.

pineapple@lemmy.ml · 31 pts · 181d

Same, I was surprised brave is so popular.

superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 181d (1 reply)

I use it to pirate sports streams and thats pretty much it. It just works better than Firefox for some reason.

JayGray91@piefed.social · 16 pts · 180d

Probably because it's chromium based and the sites are chromium optimized

That's my opinion at least

XLE@piefed.social · 5 pts · 181d

Brave and Firefox are very competitive when it comes to pushing unnecessary "features" on their users. (Remember when Mozilla bought an NFT and AI company to put a shopping toolbar in their browser?)

hellfire103@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 181d (24 replies)

Well, it does do a fantastic job of removing ads and reducing fingerprinting.

Samsy@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 181d (23 replies)

So does Librewolf. What's the benefit of brave? Chrome-based? Checked chromium from time to time and don't think chrome is superior over Firefox.

hellfire103@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 181d

Neither do I. I use Mullvad Browser, which is based on Firefox.

Brave has its own content blocking system, which is on-par with uBO and better than uBO Lite. I tested it myself a while back, and Cover Your Tracks, Fingerprint.com, and CreepJS indicated that it was incredibly difficult to fingerprint: moreso than Librewolf, but slightly less so than Tor/Mullvad.

That said, however, PrivacyTests.org indicates that Librewolf blocks more tracking technologies than Brave, so it's possible things have changed since I last experimented with browsers other than Tor and Mullvad.

Sustolic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 181d

WebHID support which some webapp configuration tools need to function

pineapple@lemmy.ml · -5 pts · 181d (20 replies)

Chromium is generally more secure than firefox.

prenatal_confusion@feddit.org · 6 pts · 180d (19 replies)

Sources?

pineapple@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 180d (18 replies)

Wow I got downvoted a lot on that I thought it was a generally agreed upon fact. Source (graphene os)

I still use firefox btw because I prefer it for many other reasons but chromium is definetely more secure.

pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 180d (13 replies)
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WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 177d

daniel micay:

You're well aware that the CalyxOS / F-Droid community has made multiple attempts at having me killed through severe swatting attacks

holy shit that's batshit crazy. is there any proof this actually happened?

Stilic@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 180d
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prenatal_confusion@feddit.org · 4 pts · 180d (3 replies)

One source from a sadly biased author. I am honestly too lazy to aggregate some numbers for CVEs to find out what's the truth but I am sure that it is not an inherent quality of chromium to be more secure.

Stilic@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 180d
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Adeptus_Obsoletus@piefed.social · 1 pts · 179d
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Ignoranceisnotabliss@lemmy.ml · 24 pts · 180d
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digital_digger@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 181d (5 replies)

Why is Thunderbird listed with proton mail, tuta and fastmail?

hellfire103@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 181d (4 replies)

They are a provider as well as a client now.

digital_digger@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 181d (1 reply)

Interesting. So you can actually create a Thunderbird email address?

XLE@piefed.social · 4 pts · 181d (1 reply)

Do you think the statistics are representative of the overall userbase? To me, this suggests recency bias (or maybe people who misunderstood the question, because it made me do a double-take too). Either way, Thunderbird using its established branding and reputation is a great move.

pkjqpg1h@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 180d
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ScreaminOctopus@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 180d (10 replies)

Surprised privacy conscious people are so pro obsidian when it's not even source available

holomorphic@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 180d (8 replies)

It keeps my data in plain text files, integrates well with git and simply does the most things I always wanted a note taking application to do, when compared with anything else I have tried so far.

Yes, I would be happier with an open source application, but the first two are hard requirements for me, which already removes the majority of the alternatives.

On the other hand, I will never understand why anyone would use brave, given how shady the thing is.

Hansae@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 180d (6 replies)

Just use nVIM

holomorphic@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 180d (5 replies)

Does support internal links, md rendering and a useful search over all files without having to configure everything for three weeks? Because those features were what made me switch after a few years of just using vim.

Also having dynamic todo boxes on my daily notes, collected from all my ~1k notes.

Those are actual questions, not sarcasm, btw. I have never used nvim. I was under the impression it was more or less just vim.

Manmoth@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 180d (2 replies)

Emacs supports whatever you want and more with org-mode. It's an upfront investment but you can use your config until you die.

CrackedLinuxISO@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 180d (1 reply)

Ever used org-roam? It's org-mode plus obsidian features. Absolutely love it.

Manmoth@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 179d

Yeah I should have said it explicitly but that's what I was referring to. I have an org-mode / org-roam setup.

velxundussa@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 180d (1 reply)

It doesn't quite fit your requirements, but org mode from emacs is very close.

.org files instead of .md, and the preview does require a bit of config, but it's not as bad as some make it be, especially if you pickup a preconfigured emacs "distro" (like doom emacs for example) in which case I think it's just a feature flag to set to on.

Org is also very appreciated for it's TODO features, which you seem to make a big use of.

It probably isn't a match for you due to the markdown requirement, but I'm mentioning it just in case you didn't consider it in the past.

holomorphic@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 180d

Thanks for the recommendation. I knew org-mode exists, but I've only ever used emacs for proof-assistants which have no other ide-support. I guess I should at least give it a try.

WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 177d

what about logseq? It's very similar, but open source

JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 180d

Probably because it is all portable and in markdown, the devs are widely available and it is open enough that community, open source plugins can be easily made which allow you to make custom workflows that simply aren't available in any alternatives.

Linking is significantly easier and better than any alternative I have tried which significantly lowers the effort of documentation which is the largest hurdle for most people. As all social media shit apps have taught us, ultra low-effort beginning of a habit is the key to consistent use.

And if the dev enshittifies, all of your notes are safe in plaintext markdown and not a proprietary format and can be imported and cleaned up in your choice of new editor and fix the linking.

meldrik@lemmy.wtf · 16 pts · 180d

Matrix is the protocol. Element is the client and just one of many.

Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 179d (1 reply)

How can Thunderbird be the third favourite Email service, when it's not even an email service? It's a mail user agent.

Or do they mean the Thundermail service available in the Thunderbird Pro Subscription?

WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 177d

thunderbird has a mail service now, but I find it weird because it's still a pretty new service

ItsMyVault101@piefed.social · 3 pts · 181d (10 replies)

Do you need an account to use Proton VPN?

XLE@piefed.social · 9 pts · 181d (4 replies)

If you download it from the FDroid store, yes. If you download it from the Google Play Store, no.

(I just tested this to make sure, because I know it sounds weird.)

ItsMyVault101@piefed.social · 2 pts · 180d

so either way is Mullvad VPN much more privacy focused, because there you just generate a random number and to this number you deposit money, no need for any credentials.

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HubertManne@piefed.social · 1 pts · 181d (1 reply)

ok so if you do it through google play it uses your google account I assume with like something like saml.

unknowablenight@piefed.social · 1 pts · 168d

No, it gives you the option to use a Proton account or use it without an account, it doesn't connect to google account

Alb@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 181d (1 reply)

Yes but it is free (email address) with an acces to 5 countries (Netherlands, Romania, Japan and 2 others i never used). To extend it worldwide you have to subscribe to a premium account.

unknowablenight@piefed.social · 1 pts · 168d

It`s 10 countries. USA, Canada, Mexico, Netherlands, Poland, Switzerland, Romana, Japan, Norway, and Singapore, though it connects randomly and you can't choose the IP

smeg@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 181d (2 replies)
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ItsMyVault101@piefed.social · 1 pts · 180d (1 reply)

I was asking because I used Mullvad in the past and I love the fact that not even they know who you are because to them you are just a random generated number, which occasionally gets 5€ deposited.

smeg@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 180d
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Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 180d (5 replies)

I'm considering swapping from Proton Mail to Fastmail. The fact that it allows 3-year subscriptions is good (I'd prefer a lifetime plan but I understand why that's a non-starter), the fact that it's based local to me is good too.

EDIT: I wish it also at least offered a rolling 3-year subscription.

ne0phyte@feddit.org · 5 pts · 180d

+1 for Fastmail

Since anything but fully on-device encrypted/decrypted mails is still inherently insecure due to being unable to control the receiving end I consider email an insecure medium by default.

That was my reason to go with fastmail when I moved away from Gmail a couple of years ago and I am very happy with their service and apps. I am also paying three years at a time and would like to pay even further ahead of time, but what can you do.

I tried proton but didn't like being locked into using their apps or hosting the SMTP bridge at which point I might as well use a less secure approach to begin with that is more comfortable to use.

portnull@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 180d (3 replies)

Fastmail is hosted in Australia which has some iffy privacy laws thst may affect fadtmail (although fastmail won't sell your data at least) https://www.e4237161d240bc6333d6834ce-19834.sites.k-hosting.co.uk/showthread.php?s=23fc90acb4f52ac90ee43d800bb66a77&t=74082

I have moved to mailbox.org which has been great too. Just offering an alternative in case you are interested in a European host

nmrb@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 176d

I also made the switch to mailbox after trying out proton and tuta. I have no regrets with the decision after a year in.

pfr@piefed.social · 1 pts · 180d

Same. I moved from FM to Posteo (which is very cheap) AND Tuta. I use both email services for different uses. Tuta for more personal stuff like banking, medical, official gvt stuff like tax, vehicle registration etc. anything that requires my full identity. Then Posteo and Addy.io together for everything else. I never use my main posteo email address, I create aliases for everything. Am three services is only slightly more expensive than FM in total, but I feel it's a much more secure setup

Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 179d

In terms of escaping targeted government surveillance, Australia is not the country to be in. If the Australian government is targeting you, there's no escape.

In terms of escaping mass surveillance and of keeping your personal information private, Australia isn't that bad. Simply the fact gmail is allowed to operate in the country means it isn't great either though.

Strengthening privacy laws around rental property applications is currently the main privacy concern for me, and recent state law changes have marginally improved that.

mlg@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 180d (1 reply)

You know I just remembered that no one actually confirmed whether DuckDuckGo wasn't just a honeypot for the NSA because it didn't become big until after thr Snowden leaks lol.

WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 177d

well I still don't get how are they legitimately funding their services, even before they started running their free AI chat proxy.