It was always "demon" (spelled daemon or dæmon), as in a spiritual attendant. Christian mythology has poisoned the word, and anyone who says "daymon" to not offend them is a coward.
I say daymon not to avoid offence, but since it sounds cooler than demon.
A demon sounds like a fiend that has only been around for at most a few hundred years, but a daemon sounds like it has been around for a few thousand so it is much more dangerous.
While offending Christians is welcome in this day and age, the marked Latin and Greek history of the word, originating as "daímōn" with an 'a', and the fact that 'æ' exists, both make "dæmon" a cool enough spelling that I'm keeping it, and the fancier spelling helps keeping safe and separate from the christofascist corruption of the word for when I am more in mind of the mechanics and purposes rather than having to be a soldier in someone else's cultural war.
I usually go for J̵̧̢̢̢̡̩͎̙͙̹͇̞̯̯͇̞̭̯̙̻̲͖̻̗̫̙̲̪̫̥̦͇̭͇͍̤̳̫̖̪̗̈ö̸͓̱̭͔͓̼͔́̄̆̑̅͛̈̉̆̓̿̾̓̒̑͂̃̃͑̏̄̈͛̄̈̂̌̑̂̆͛̅͘̚̚͘͝r̶̡̢͉̤͎̲̥̮̻̟͉̩̗̠̝̖̬͈̹͓͈̱̹͖͕̩͎̉̑̋̂̀̍̇͋́̐͆̇͋́m̶̢̢̨̢̨̭̪̹͓̜̱̼̬̘͖̬̝̩̤̘̰̮͕͎͈̭͖͕͎̳͓̺̟͒͑̈́͊̓̾̆͂͂͒̕͘͜͠ͅü̵̢̢̧̢̢̞̹̼̱̲̯̟͕̞̖̞̖̪͙͓̈́̓́̈́̎̓͐̂͆̏̍̍͒̾̀͒̍̎̐̊̀͊̓̋̀̀̋͑͊͑̚͘͝͠͝͝͝ņ̴̡̢̛̛̪̺̻̺͎̪̯͎̪̦͔̱͕̱̫̬̞̦̝̃̽͊̆͌̈́͂̈́̈́̾̋̐͋̋̐͋̏͆̄̄̽͗̒͋̌͒͂͘͜͠͝͝͝͠g̸̛̰̱̣̺͇̒̈́͐̓̿͑́̂̂̔̏̈́͊̔̅̌̈́̍̿͆̄͒͑̀̊͘͘͜͝a̶̦̯̦̹̘̪̞̗̟͇̲̣̳̩̔́́͗̈́͛̀͋͛̌̉̐̾͋́̇̄̍̈́̾̏̿̐̔̔͘̚n̶̡̻͎͔̬̣̲͋̽͒̒̏͋̈́́́d̵̨̧̢̢̡̗̱̼̙͔̤̤̣͓̖̼͍̻̰̭̗̬̟̙̗̿̿̒̎̌̓̆̋̈́͂̊͊̿͊͗̐̿͜r̷̡̦̱̖͖̙̥̫͙̞̲̬̫̼̞̫̖̜̦̰̙̗̯̠̹̗̲̪̯̻̖͇͚̳̿͂͆͒̂̎̇͛͂̈̐͒̄͊͘͠͝ but some purists find that too much so I tone it down to “baddie”.
It's somewhat regional. Lots of Americans pronounce the ou as in ouch, but lots of other folks pronounce it as in root (recognizing that route is its root word).
I always thought the 2 pronunciation of route were different but similar things. Raut as in a set road between two large places, not specific place in a city but the city itself. Root as a path between 2 specific points, house to house.
Day-mon, every Linux admin I've worked with, old and young, pronounces it that way too, so that's where I picked it up.
I've never heard of people deliberately pronouncing it like that to avoid offending Christians though, seems like an American take lol.
I thought that it was just an archaic spelling of the modern demon and an alternative pronunciation to clairify that the speaker is referring to a technical part of an OS, not making a joke about the spiritual nature of the machine lol.
Yes the CTSS crew were reportedly thinking of Maxewell's demon but also chose to change it to the "daemon" spelling to make it sound more like a "friendly garden spirit than a monster" and the pronounced it "deemon".
I'm Brazilian, so I pronounce Daemon in such a Brazilian (specifically the southeast, "paulista"/from state of São Paulo variation) accent:
Daah-eh-monn
Or, if my IPA literacy is correct:
/dajˈmõ/
The Daemon I use in my pseudonym is inspired both by the Unix daemons (because I'm a DevOps and also a Linux daily user), as well by the esoteric daemons (as in the original Greek definition of daimon, spirits, due to my belief system).
66 Comments
Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 98 pts · 190d
Day mon
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 55 pts · 190d
What do you want, Picard?
RickyRigatoni@piefed.zip · 42 pts · 190d
Daymon. Fighter of the nightmon. Champion of the sun.
SexualPolytope@lemmy.sdf.org · 19 pts · 190d
socsa@piefed.social · 2 pts · 190d
Gesundheit
MantisToboggon@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 190d
Day Man
wesker@lemmy.sdf.org · 47 pts · 190d
Fighter of the Night Man
_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 190d
He's a master of command lines and shell scripts for everyone!
Delta_V@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 190d
AaAaAa
neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 35 pts · 190d
imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 190d
The 'ae' in daemon is the same as the æ in encyclopædia.
entwine@programming.dev · 22 pts · 190d
How do you pronounce encyclopædia?
breadsmasher@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 190d
the same as daemon
nomecks@lemmy.wtf · 3 pts · 190d
Demon?
Telorand@reddthat.com · 12 pts · 190d
No, dæmon
nomecks@lemmy.wtf · 2 pts · 190d
Deemon
Eldritch@piefed.world · 9 pts · 190d
Just as it reads. You smash that E into the A's ass. Starting the E before the A finishes.
SilverCode@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 190d
Dammit! Now I have to pronounce Encyclopaedia incorrectly 😞
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 190d
When I see that spelling I just hear Ted Mosby
msokiovt@lemmy.today · 25 pts · 190d
I say at day-mon.
teft@piefed.social · 25 pts · 190d
Same way that I say Matt Damon.
Matt Daemon
RaoulDuke25@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 189d
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 25 pts · 190d
It’s just an old spelling of demon. So that.
BetterDev@programming.dev · 2 pts · 189d
Languages change over time, and we get to vote on which words we'd like changed by preferring cool ones over just "the way it has always been"
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 189d
Yeah, but also sometimes people are just thick.
BetterDev@programming.dev · 1 pts · 188d
Can't argue there!
Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club · 24 pts · 190d
"Demon"
It was always "demon" (spelled daemon or dæmon), as in a spiritual attendant. Christian mythology has poisoned the word, and anyone who says "daymon" to not offend them is a coward.
See here:
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/demon
Edit: When I say it was always pronounced "demon", I mean the nerds who started calling a small background program daemon pronounced it "demon".
BetterDev@programming.dev · 28 pts · 190d
Calm your tits (meaning your birds), I say "daymon", and I relish any opportunity to offend the overly devout.
My reason is simple: I learned the word by reading it and sounding it out, and that's more badass than "haha I say demon because I'm edgy"
spartanatreyu@programming.dev · 20 pts · 190d
I say daymon not to avoid offence, but since it sounds cooler than demon.
A demon sounds like a fiend that has only been around for at most a few hundred years, but a daemon sounds like it has been around for a few thousand so it is much more dangerous.
lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org · 6 pts · 189d
While offending Christians is welcome in this day and age, the marked Latin and Greek history of the word, originating as "daímōn" with an 'a', and the fact that 'æ' exists, both make "dæmon" a cool enough spelling that I'm keeping it, and the fancier spelling helps keeping safe and separate from the christofascist corruption of the word for when I am more in mind of the mechanics and purposes rather than having to be a soldier in someone else's cultural war.
tatterdemalion@programming.dev · 22 pts · 190d
Same as demon. Because my research indicates that this usage was originally a reference to Maxwell's demon.
https://www.takeourword.com/TOW146/page4.html
tiny_hedgehog@piefed.social · 16 pts · 190d
I usually go for J̵̧̢̢̢̡̩͎̙͙̹͇̞̯̯͇̞̭̯̙̻̲͖̻̗̫̙̲̪̫̥̦͇̭͇͍̤̳̫̖̪̗̈ö̸͓̱̭͔͓̼͔́̄̆̑̅͛̈̉̆̓̿̾̓̒̑͂̃̃͑̏̄̈͛̄̈̂̌̑̂̆͛̅͘̚̚͘͝r̶̡̢͉̤͎̲̥̮̻̟͉̩̗̠̝̖̬͈̹͓͈̱̹͖͕̩͎̉̑̋̂̀̍̇͋́̐͆̇͋́m̶̢̢̨̢̨̭̪̹͓̜̱̼̬̘͖̬̝̩̤̘̰̮͕͎͈̭͖͕͎̳͓̺̟͒͑̈́͊̓̾̆͂͂͒̕͘͜͠ͅü̵̢̢̧̢̢̞̹̼̱̲̯̟͕̞̖̞̖̪͙͓̈́̓́̈́̎̓͐̂͆̏̍̍͒̾̀͒̍̎̐̊̀͊̓̋̀̀̋͑͊͑̚͘͝͠͝͝͝ņ̴̡̢̛̛̪̺̻̺͎̪̯͎̪̦͔̱͕̱̫̬̞̦̝̃̽͊̆͌̈́͂̈́̈́̾̋̐͋̋̐͋̏͆̄̄̽͗̒͋̌͒͂͘͜͠͝͝͝͠g̸̛̰̱̣̺͇̒̈́͐̓̿͑́̂̂̔̏̈́͊̔̅̌̈́̍̿͆̄͒͑̀̊͘͘͜͝a̶̦̯̦̹̘̪̞̗̟͇̲̣̳̩̔́́͗̈́͛̀͋͛̌̉̐̾͋́̇̄̍̈́̾̏̿̐̔̔͘̚n̶̡̻͎͔̬̣̲͋̽͒̒̏͋̈́́́d̵̨̧̢̢̡̗̱̼̙͔̤̤̣͓̖̼͍̻̰̭̗̬̟̙̗̿̿̒̎̌̓̆̋̈́͂̊͊̿͊͗̐̿͜r̷̡̦̱̖͖̙̥̫͙̞̲̬̫̼̞̫̖̜̦̰̙̗̯̠̹̗̲̪̯̻̖͇͚̳̿͂͆͒̂̎̇͛͂̈̐͒̄͊͘͠͝ but some purists find that too much so I tone it down to “baddie”.
numbermess@fedia.io · 14 pts · 190d
D ayyyyy mon
smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 190d
Samy way as the actor, Matt.
hendrik@palaver.p3x.de · 13 pts · 190d
ˈdiː.mən
And don't ever ask random people how to pronounce 'router'.
Maestro@fedia.io · 6 pts · 190d
So, what is it? Rooter? Or rauter?
who@feddit.org · 4 pts · 190d
It's somewhat regional. Lots of Americans pronounce the ou as in ouch, but lots of other folks pronounce it as in root (recognizing that route is its root word).
moody@lemmings.world · 6 pts · 190d
You could also ask people how they pronounce route and get different answers.
who@feddit.org · 5 pts · 189d
Aye. Which reinforces what I wroot.
notgold@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 185d
I always thought the 2 pronunciation of route were different but similar things. Raut as in a set road between two large places, not specific place in a city but the city itself. Root as a path between 2 specific points, house to house.
lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 189d
It's a rauter, from the Ínglich raut, a paþ.
KindaABigDyl@programming.dev · 3 pts · 190d
'ɹaʊ.ɾɚ
nomecks@lemmy.wtf · 12 pts · 190d
Demon, because it offends purists, and FreeBSD's mascot is a demon.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 190d
service
Lettuceeatlettuce@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 189d
Day-mon, every Linux admin I've worked with, old and young, pronounces it that way too, so that's where I picked it up.
I've never heard of people deliberately pronouncing it like that to avoid offending Christians though, seems like an American take lol.
I thought that it was just an archaic spelling of the modern demon and an alternative pronunciation to clairify that the speaker is referring to a technical part of an OS, not making a joke about the spiritual nature of the machine lol.
It sounds cooler to say day-mon anyways IMO.
HubertManne@piefed.social · 10 pts · 190d
both honestly. I think when I see it I think damon mostly but I might say that and I might say demon.
lengau@midwest.social · 8 pts · 188d
You people use meat flapping to communicate?
CallMeAl@piefed.zip · 8 pts · 190d
In case you ever wondered where it came from in computing.
tatterdemalion@programming.dev · 5 pts · 190d
I thought it was a reference to Maxwell's demon.
CallMeAl@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 189d
Yes the CTSS crew were reportedly thinking of Maxewell's demon but also chose to change it to the "daemon" spelling to make it sound more like a "friendly garden spirit than a monster" and the pronounced it "deemon".
who@feddit.org · 6 pts · 190d
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/daemon
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Rhymes:English/i%CB%90m%C9%99n
Olap@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 190d
Demon, so I can kill them, spawn them, or send them signals to die!
enbiousenvy@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 189d
대몬
owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 190d
I would pronounce it "DEEmon" but that gets some religious folks all freaked out, so I usually go with "DAYman".
dsilverz@calckey.world · 4 pts · 190d
@guynamedzero@piefed.zeromedia.vip @linux@programming.dev
"Why thou summoneth me?" Lol
Just kidding!
I'm Brazilian, so I pronounce Daemon in such a Brazilian (specifically the southeast, "paulista"/from state of São Paulo variation) accent:
Or, if my IPA literacy is correct:
The Daemon I use in my pseudonym is inspired both by the Unix daemons (because I'm a DevOps and also a Linux daily user), as well by the esoteric daemons (as in the original Greek definition of daimon, spirits, due to my belief system).
Telorand@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 190d
"DAH-ay-mon," I choose you! Use your
exec ~/thunder_sma.sh!noxypaws@pawb.social · 4 pts · 190d
day-min
Durandal@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 190d
day mn
beeng@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 188d
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(novel)
One of my favorite cyberpunk novels.
SigHunter@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 190d
Dämon
I_Am_Jacks_____@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 190d
Damon
_haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 190d
Day Mon
copyscam@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 189d
I'm wrong but in my head it's always been Damien
SinTan1729@programming.dev · 1 pts · 190d
kiri@ani.social · 1 pts · 190d
::: spoiler deleted I'm sorry didn't found better variant, but almost like this (be carefull, it's loud):
:::
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 190d
Like Damon
https://youtu.be/OgqBcJ0uY-c?t=52
BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz · 0 pts · 190d
Da-ymon
(The “y” is pronounced as in “you” and the “da” as in “darth vader”)
Just realised that I pronounce it like “diamond” without the last “d”