What I find stupid is that people will keep using it after all the shit they are doing. I mean, it's twitch, you can live without it. And yet, people will accept this bullshit and keep going because the alternative of changing platform is just too bothersome for them. In the end, I'm starting to think we have the internet we deserve.
Yeah exactly. The culture and the people make twitch, not the platform.
Same with YouTube - I could switch to peertube but I would be missing out on so many creators and so much content I genuinely wanna watch.
To me this always boils down to "it's not worth it to live a boring life just out of principle". I get that if everyone switched we'd be better off but we're just not there yet.
It's possible for them to stream to multiple platforms simultaneously, it's common for streamers to do twitch and youtube at the same time. If the tools make it easy enough they might do it despite no potential to make money right away.
Makes it harder for community interaction given split chats though. And chatting with other random people in chats is like 60% of why I watch streams at all, so breaking that ruins the experience imo. Its like hanging out with a friend whose also just on a phone call the whole time.
Pretty sure twitch has deals with streamers that restricts how they can stream. I think SimpleFlips had a video explaining why he stopped streaming on YouTube, he didn't realize the twitch partner contract required him to stream exclusively on twitch at the time. I've also heard some things about how you can stream simultaneously, but twitch doesn't allow you merging chats from different platforms, so if you want to show chat in the stream itself, each platform might need a separate box.
You don't need to watch this or that streamer to live. You can ditch them and do something else. The streamer goes where the money is. If they start seeing people don't use twitch anymore, they will switch to whatever platform the audience wants. But alas, the audience seems to enjoy ads this way so...
I only use it for in-game drops once in a blue moon and even then it's on 160p with no sound with two ad blockers on, minimized in the background. So even if they somehow serve me ads I won't see them lmao
I have it running as a docker container and it just collect drops and points for me.
Honestly. The only reason I even have that was so I had points to gamble with during Eve Online's alliance tournament. I don't watch anything else on twitch.
The point miner specifically was of little use to me, but it had never occurred to me that an application could authenticate and then just pretend to watch things. This lead me to the twitch drop miner, which seems to be exactly what I’m looking for.
no way, people will just leave twitch for another streaming platform, kick and youtube exist and many stream on there and if your lucky, your favs never took an exclusivity contract and already multi stream.
I think the real alternatives are Peertube or Owncast, because they are non commercially and FOSS and can be self hosted and federated.
In the long run, every commercial platform that has enough users will enshittify, that's just capitalism.
That's why we have to break the cycle and reject corporate social media.
That's gonna take a whopping 10 lines of userscript to defeat, hell I already had to use one to stop them from dropping the video quality when unfocused (so I could watch streams in PiP properly)
Like, die in a fire Twitch! That's some unhinged behavior which made me delete my account, and I left some pointed feedback. Not that they'll care, but, fuck those fuckers!
I use twitch for one thing and it's literally to help support a friend of mine. He streams as part of his job to make money. You can't currently do that on other websites and get the same benefit.
I have never liked twitch but I have a pretty valid reason for using it. He wouldn't reach the audience he does there anywhere else except YouTube who don't pay much if anything for streaming and take a more significant cut of donations.
People won't leave because the viable options aren't giving the same benefits, and it's not just about the viewers, but also the content creators.
Basically stopped watching twitch bwcause of the stupid fucking unskippable ads... and I'm glad i did, I'm never going back, fuck them and their bs ads. Much more free time :)
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superduperpirate@lemmy.world · 84 pts · 169d
Well, so much for considering a return to twitch as an entertainment option
three@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 169d
Laughs in adblocker
tostiman@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 169d
Twitch keeps dodging ublock origin
three@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 169d
Adblock is more than ublock
GuiltyFrost@pawb.social · 3 pts · 169d
What have you found that works on twitch?
Nihilore@quokk.au · 6 pts · 169d
personally i've had few issues with Twitch Alternative Viewer
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/twitch_5/
three@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 169d
Streamlink
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social · 70 pts · 169d
What I find stupid is that people will keep using it after all the shit they are doing. I mean, it's twitch, you can live without it. And yet, people will accept this bullshit and keep going because the alternative of changing platform is just too bothersome for them. In the end, I'm starting to think we have the internet we deserve.
cosmicrookie@lemmy.world · 72 pts · 169d
I feel like people are eager to change and make new habits but won't go places where there is no content.
It's the streamers and youtubers who need to move, but they won't because of of the other platforms don't have similar monetization
hoshikarakitaridia@lemmy.world · 44 pts · 169d
Yeah exactly. The culture and the people make twitch, not the platform.
Same with YouTube - I could switch to peertube but I would be missing out on so many creators and so much content I genuinely wanna watch.
To me this always boils down to "it's not worth it to live a boring life just out of principle". I get that if everyone switched we'd be better off but we're just not there yet.
chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 169d
It's possible for them to stream to multiple platforms simultaneously, it's common for streamers to do twitch and youtube at the same time. If the tools make it easy enough they might do it despite no potential to make money right away.
WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com · 9 pts · 169d
Makes it harder for community interaction given split chats though. And chatting with other random people in chats is like 60% of why I watch streams at all, so breaking that ruins the experience imo. Its like hanging out with a friend whose also just on a phone call the whole time.
kuberoot@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 169d
Pretty sure twitch has deals with streamers that restricts how they can stream. I think SimpleFlips had a video explaining why he stopped streaming on YouTube, he didn't realize the twitch partner contract required him to stream exclusively on twitch at the time. I've also heard some things about how you can stream simultaneously, but twitch doesn't allow you merging chats from different platforms, so if you want to show chat in the stream itself, each platform might need a separate box.
scutiger@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 169d
I'm pretty sure Twitch has stopped exclusivity deals. They even recently allowed showing combined Twitch and Youtube chats on screen.
4am@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 169d
Capital will claw you in and hold you down under the threat of bankruptcy.
AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social · -6 pts · 169d
You don't need to watch this or that streamer to live. You can ditch them and do something else. The streamer goes where the money is. If they start seeing people don't use twitch anymore, they will switch to whatever platform the audience wants. But alas, the audience seems to enjoy ads this way so...
This is self inflicted pain and people enjoy it.
BigTrout75@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 169d
So many platforms are like this. I think it's because content creators their business tied into these systems.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 169d
If the viewers dry up they’ll stop being paid and leave.
It’s on every user to dump the platform.
Cevilia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 168d
real_squids@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 169d
I only use it for in-game drops once in a blue moon and even then it's on 160p with no sound with two ad blockers on, minimized in the background. So even if they somehow serve me ads I won't see them lmao
brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 169d
Twitch channel point miner.
I have it running as a docker container and it just collect drops and points for me.
Honestly. The only reason I even have that was so I had points to gamble with during Eve Online's alliance tournament. I don't watch anything else on twitch.
KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 168d
I appreciate you mentioning this.
The point miner specifically was of little use to me, but it had never occurred to me that an application could authenticate and then just pretend to watch things. This lead me to the twitch drop miner, which seems to be exactly what I’m looking for.
real_squids@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 169d
I have an extension like that yeah
Smaile@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 169d
no way, people will just leave twitch for another streaming platform, kick and youtube exist and many stream on there and if your lucky, your favs never took an exclusivity contract and already multi stream.
krimson@lemmy.world · 66 pts · 169d
Yeah a website should not be able to tell where I am looking at or if my audio is muted or not.
But Bezos needs more money right, because he doesn't have enough yet.
greyfrog@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 169d
Blame the browsers for creating the APIs.
anguo@piefed.ca · 27 pts · 169d
You mean Google.
greyfrog@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 169d
No, I mean they all decide to adopt this shit.
winkerjadams@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 169d
These tools can be used for good applications though. Why punish good developers when bad actors are the problem?
greyfrog@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 169d
There is no valid need for this API.
FishFace@piefed.social · -5 pts · 169d
This API can be used to suggest users take breaks if they've been using a site for a long time.
The exact same API exists in desktop environments; it's just part of the progressive OS-ification of the web.
Smaile@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 169d
yah but the problem is that other streaming platforms exist, and a fair few streamers multi stream so...
jeff might not have thought this through.
5oap10116@lemmy.world · 56 pts · 169d
Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz · 38 pts · 169d
Avoid enshittifying Twitch for a better experience.
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 169d
rami@ani.social · 8 pts · 169d
Holy fuck it's real
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 169d
rofl why does the patent have the viewer stand up and cheer it
lobut@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 169d
to show those people with difficulties standing who the real bosses are
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 168d
This voice feature is ableist against... paraplegics!
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 31 pts · 169d
Drink verification can.
foggy@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 169d
That's a full boycott from me, dawg.
Not even once. I'm good watching recycled twitch clips wherever they crop up. Fuck your business model with a pitchfork.
D_C@sh.itjust.works · 27 pts · 169d
I must be lucky, I've not seen any ads on twitch.
Also, I don't use twitch.
Randelung@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 169d
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/disable-page-visibility/
same for chrome based browsers. an API that should never have existed in the first place.
BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 169d
I think the real alternatives are Peertube or Owncast, because they are non commercially and FOSS and can be self hosted and federated.
In the long run, every commercial platform that has enough users will enshittify, that's just capitalism. That's why we have to break the cycle and reject corporate social media.
ramenshaman@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 169d
I guess I'll continue never using twitch.
GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 169d
I too shall continue my boycott that begin in 1981
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 21 pts · 169d
Solution: stop using Twitch.
FatVegan@leminal.space · 3 pts · 169d
The best life hacks are always in the comments
LiveLM@lemmy.zip · 21 pts · 169d
That's gonna take a whopping 10 lines of userscript to defeat, hell I already had to use one to stop them from dropping the video quality when unfocused (so I could watch streams in PiP properly)
onehundredsixtynine@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 169d
LiveLM@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 168d
I use this one:
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/383093-twitch-disable-automatic-video-downscale
yelling_at_cloud@programming.dev · 21 pts · 169d
I already saw this Black Mirror episode
deacon@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 169d
Feels like a definite mile marker in our descent to Idiocracy.
ech@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 169d
This is Black Mirror, not Idiocracy. If you can only relate to reality through fiction, at least use the appropriate one.
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 169d
Calm down.
BillCheddar@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 169d
Get shit right.
deacon@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 169d
I hate to tell you this, but black mirror may be in our rear view mirror.
LostWanderer@fedia.io · 11 pts · 169d
Like, die in a fire Twitch! That's some unhinged behavior which made me delete my account, and I left some pointed feedback. Not that they'll care, but, fuck those fuckers!
atrielienz@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 169d
I use twitch for one thing and it's literally to help support a friend of mine. He streams as part of his job to make money. You can't currently do that on other websites and get the same benefit.
I have never liked twitch but I have a pretty valid reason for using it. He wouldn't reach the audience he does there anywhere else except YouTube who don't pay much if anything for streaming and take a more significant cut of donations.
People won't leave because the viable options aren't giving the same benefits, and it's not just about the viewers, but also the content creators.
Auster@thebrainbin.org · 11 pts · 169d
gets arrested for using ad-blocking technologies
Loce@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 169d
Basically stopped watching twitch bwcause of the stupid fucking unskippable ads... and I'm glad i did, I'm never going back, fuck them and their bs ads. Much more free time :)
melsaskca@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 169d
I stopped going to the theater because I had to pay to watch commercials and advertisements.
peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 169d
I stopped because morons can't stay off their phones for 5 bloody minutes.
frankring@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 168d
Host your own OwnCast (https://owncast.online/). It uses ActivityPub and is part of the Fediverse.
Here's mine: https://live.fraxoweb.com/
glitchdx@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 168d
this looks very interesting, I feel like I should check this out as sn occasional streamer with no fanbase
frankring@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 168d
Yeah, I love OwnCast, it's actually so much simpler than Twitch, and it has no ads.
MrSulu@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 169d
IT equivalent to 'Eyelids glued open'
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 169d
Sounds like something browsers should have an option to prevent. Or just don't use twitch in the first place.
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 169d
Browsers manage this just fine: just middle click on the tab.
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 169d
The correct way to treat a twitch tab
chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 169d
There has to be a way to write a plug in to fool sites into thinking you have volume on and the tab in focus.
Smaile@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 169d
just use kick or youtube
fluffyfoxgirl@pawb.social · 4 pts · 169d
Smaile@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 169d
wow, what an awful idea
MagnificentSteiner@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 169d
Make it shitty!
Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 168d
OMG this is hysterical
Rhoeri@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 169d
Soooo. Delete twitch. Problem solved.
TheMightyCanuck@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 169d
Lmao fuck twitch
mnemonicmonkeys@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 169d
Does watching Twitch through GrayJay get around this?