It was my understanding that moving forward full fat UBO would not work on any modern Chromium browser, but I'm admittedly not enough of an expert to know better.
Only thing I wish it had is JXL support hacked in like Thorium.
Sometimes I shop on Cromite (specifically for its uber hardcore anti fingerprinting), or switch to Firefox for a bit, but I’ve found myself mostly using Helium.
It is the best combo of lightweight and fast without working your CPU too hard. But this is only really relevant on old hardware. My laptop with 1 GB RAM and antiX installed is somewhat usable online now. But there are more private options for general use. Also I hate that it only has an AppImage release, it's terrible for a browser to not be able to auto update.
I’m mildly interested, given this is based on ungoogled chromium. But like all brand new projects these days, I’m put off by their potentially vibe coded internals.
I've been using Helium as my Chromium browser of choice (used to use Brave) for a while now. Of course, I still use Mullvad Browser (FF based) as my daily driver, but Helium has been great for anything I need Chromium for. I know Firefox good Chromium bad, but if you ever need Chromium, this seems like the least of all evils.
I didn’t know about this. Does WebHID work? I having to install chrome or edge or something just to use a web based keyboard configuration and flash tool.
I'll have to try that one. I was thinking it was an android browser. Oh well. I only said Vivaldi because I note its lack of AI and it's available on all the desktop platforms
its a bit more than that with me. Even with FF changing the way it did addons I still find chrome add ons to be kinda weenie relative to FF. I do feel FF is a better base.
As the person who made the (currently highest upvoted) comment about not needing a new Chromium browser, could you enlighten me on what I should know about "today's industry"?
Can't tell if you're joking but the problem is serious lack of competition for Chromium browsers. Every Chromium browser brings nothing meaningfully new but just strengthens Google's monopoly.
You've got that backwards bub. Firefox is the competition. Chrome has like 65% of the market share. Chrome is the browser to compete against, not Firefox.
Answer me this, what chromium browser today is good??
I don't use Chromium browsers because they're at the verge of becoming a monopoly, it's important to use alternatives for the foreseeable future to sustain what's left of diversity.
It depends on your point of view, of the ones I've seen I'd guess Vivaldi has the best user features but it's closed source so there's double reason to not use it. It's what I'd use if I didn't care about any of this. But if you want my genuine browser recommendation from a Privacy perspective (since this is the privacy community) I suggest Mullvad Browser, it's Firefox based and has strong anti-fingerprinting and privacy defaults - it does break some sites though and is missing some QoL features but that's the price you pay.
Yeah different perspective, i don't see any need in using alternatives to chromium tho, firefox works with google, so this fight with the monopolist is just ridiculous for me.
I would say don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good, if you have a problem with Mozilla as an organisation it doesn't negate the valid concerns about the monopoly, it would effectively hand control of web standards over to Google defeating the entire ethos of the open web. The Firefox browser engine is independent even if you don't believe the organisation behind it is, that can be verified because of open source, there's no need to be defeatist yet.
Maybe, but i still doesn't like firefox that much.. Firefox has a bug where my vpn extension can't connect after relaunching the browser, and it's like every vpn i used, they don't fix it
63 Comments
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 96 pts · 163d
Butthole logo
theherk@lemmy.world · 60 pts · 163d
64bithero@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 163d
It’s a weird obsession with today’s tech industry and it bewilders me every time
limer@lemmy.ml · 27 pts · 163d
When people tell you who they are, believe them
socsa@piefed.social · 5 pts · 162d
The [current year] of our lord and people are still doing this
anothermember@feddit.uk · 51 pts · 163d
Don't see the point, the world doesn't need another Chromium browser.
btsax@reddthat.com · 31 pts · 162d
Using any Chromium browser contributes to Google's ever-encroaching monopoly on all things Web. Hard pass.
Kirk@startrek.website · 25 pts · 163d
It's Chromium based, doesn't that mean uBlock isn't going to work as well?
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 163d
It specifically supports (and ships with) full UBO, not the neutered ManifestV3 version.
Kirk@startrek.website · 8 pts · 163d
It was my understanding that moving forward full fat UBO would not work on any modern Chromium browser, but I'm admittedly not enough of an expert to know better.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 163d
Helium is a fork, so they can keep compatibility going forward.
It's not like a side thing, either; full (not lite) UBlock Origin is the headline feature of Helium. It's literally shipped with the browser.
Kirk@startrek.website · 4 pts · 163d
So it's not technically Chromium anymore? It's a fork of Chromium?
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 162d
Mmm, its versioning keeps up with Chromium, and the source just looks like a bunch of patches to me:
https://github.com/imputnet/helium/tree/main/patches/helium/core
Not a fork, I don't think.
Kirk@startrek.website · 2 pts · 162d
Sorry what did you mean by "Helium is a fork, so they can keep compatibility going forward"? A fork of what?
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 162d
It's not a fork, IMO. It's just a set of patches to upstream Chromium.
bear_delune@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 162d
Weird that Twitter is the only social network they have an account on…
macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 162d
It just another garbage chromium browser.
workgood@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -8 pts · 162d
ransomwarelettuce@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 163d
kinda like it been using as chromium alternative to my daily driver librewolf.
reminds me of brave but has no brave bullshit and pretty minimalist.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 163d
Been using it for months, and I adore it. +1
Only thing I wish it had is JXL support hacked in like Thorium.
Sometimes I shop on Cromite (specifically for its uber hardcore anti fingerprinting), or switch to Firefox for a bit, but I’ve found myself mostly using Helium.
Zicoxy3@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 161d
another chrome browser.... garbage
BladeFederation@piefed.social · 10 pts · 163d
It is the best combo of lightweight and fast without working your CPU too hard. But this is only really relevant on old hardware. My laptop with 1 GB RAM and antiX installed is somewhat usable online now. But there are more private options for general use. Also I hate that it only has an AppImage release, it's terrible for a browser to not be able to auto update.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 162d
My distro (CachyOS) has it packaged, so maybe you can request for yours to do it as well?
pnelego@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 162d
I’m mildly interested, given this is based on ungoogled chromium. But like all brand new projects these days, I’m put off by their potentially vibe coded internals.
eleitl@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 162d
Why not Vanadium then?
pnelego@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 162d
Because I use a desktop computer.
CallMeAl@piefed.zip · 7 pts · 163d
I can't see any reason to trust this project with my browsing.
nkk@programming.dev · 5 pts · 162d
I've been using Helium as my Chromium browser of choice (used to use Brave) for a while now. Of course, I still use Mullvad Browser (FF based) as my daily driver, but Helium has been great for anything I need Chromium for. I know Firefox good Chromium bad, but if you ever need Chromium, this seems like the least of all evils.
mirshafie@europe.pub · 7 pts · 162d
When... when would I ever need Chromium?
nkk@programming.dev · 5 pts · 162d
Some websites don't work properly on Firefox. That or testing websites you're developing on Chromium
exaybachae@startrek.website · 5 pts · 163d
Seems aight, I'm fine with FF ATM though.
I do keep alternates around for rare issues, so when helium is out of beta if it ever is, I may install it.
Unlearned9545@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 162d
Been using it as my daily driver for months. Love it.
Arkhive@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 162d
I didn’t know about this. Does WebHID work? I having to install chrome or edge or something just to use a web based keyboard configuration and flash tool.
antrosapien@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 162d
Using it to run jellyfin and other self hosted apps that runs good in Chromium
Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 163d
workgood@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -6 pts · 162d
Alvaro@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 162d
I deleted my comment fir a reason 🤨 I misread the post and thought that the OP was saying that it is not Chromium based.
Also, really? Brave is the best ever?
anothermember@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 162d
Comment deletion doesn't always federate straight away, I can still see it.
workgood@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 161d
workgood@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 161d
XTL@sopuli.xyz · -1 pts · 161d
Brave is a series scam company.
workgood@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 161d
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 163d
If you have to use garbage ass Google monopoly-ware, I'd suggest Vivaldi, but I'd recommend even avoiding that one like the plague.
Neptr@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 162d
Vivaldi is proprietary. I would def avoid that. For Chromium forked browser use Cromite instead.
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 162d
I'll have to try that one. I was thinking it was an android browser. Oh well. I only said Vivaldi because I note its lack of AI and it's available on all the desktop platforms
HubertManne@piefed.social · 2 pts · 163d
its a bit more than that with me. Even with FF changing the way it did addons I still find chrome add ons to be kinda weenie relative to FF. I do feel FF is a better base.
Georgvwt@europe.pub · 0 pts · 163d
Good browser, people who don't see need in a new chromium browser know nothing about today's industry lol
anothermember@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 162d
As the person who made the (currently highest upvoted) comment about not needing a new Chromium browser, could you enlighten me on what I should know about "today's industry"?
pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 162d
Ooh, as a web developer, I can answer this.
We (web developers) are, on average, incompetent. Many of our websites only work in Chromium based browsers, due to aforementioned incompetence.
orochi02@feddit.org · 1 pts · 162d
I love ff but competition is always good
anothermember@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 162d
Can't tell if you're joking but the problem is serious lack of competition for Chromium browsers. Every Chromium browser brings nothing meaningfully new but just strengthens Google's monopoly.
orochi02@feddit.org · 1 pts · 162d
I meant in the way that chrome is good competition for ff. Not necessarily that we Need even more chromium browsers
anothermember@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 162d
Oh yes, it would be even worse if we only had one browser engine. We need more browser engines is the point, not more tweaked Chromium browsers.
ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 162d
You've got that backwards bub. Firefox is the competition. Chrome has like 65% of the market share. Chrome is the browser to compete against, not Firefox.
orochi02@feddit.org · 1 pts · 162d
Even if Chrome is the dominant Browser it is still competition, no?
ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 162d
No.
Georgvwt@europe.pub · -1 pts · 162d
yeah, "competition", firefox sends data to google and google pays firefox for google search to be main search in the browser out of the box
ToTheGraveMyLove@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 162d
I'll take Missing the Point for 100, Alex.
Georgvwt@europe.pub · 1 pts · 162d
Answer me this, what chromium browser today is good??
anothermember@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 162d
I don't use Chromium browsers because they're at the verge of becoming a monopoly, it's important to use alternatives for the foreseeable future to sustain what's left of diversity.
It depends on your point of view, of the ones I've seen I'd guess Vivaldi has the best user features but it's closed source so there's double reason to not use it. It's what I'd use if I didn't care about any of this. But if you want my genuine browser recommendation from a Privacy perspective (since this is the privacy community) I suggest Mullvad Browser, it's Firefox based and has strong anti-fingerprinting and privacy defaults - it does break some sites though and is missing some QoL features but that's the price you pay.
Georgvwt@europe.pub · 1 pts · 161d
Yeah different perspective, i don't see any need in using alternatives to chromium tho, firefox works with google, so this fight with the monopolist is just ridiculous for me.
anothermember@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 161d
I would say don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good, if you have a problem with Mozilla as an organisation it doesn't negate the valid concerns about the monopoly, it would effectively hand control of web standards over to Google defeating the entire ethos of the open web. The Firefox browser engine is independent even if you don't believe the organisation behind it is, that can be verified because of open source, there's no need to be defeatist yet.
Georgvwt@europe.pub · 1 pts · 161d
Maybe, but i still doesn't like firefox that much.. Firefox has a bug where my vpn extension can't connect after relaunching the browser, and it's like every vpn i used, they don't fix it
macaw_dean_settle@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 162d
No, we don't need more chromium browsers but fewer. I will never use that garbage.
Georgvwt@europe.pub · 0 pts · 162d
Okay ig? I hate firefox so i don't use it, but i love chromium so i want more normal browsers on chromium
workgood@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -28 pts · 162d
trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 162d
low quality bait dot jpeg
workgood@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -7 pts · 162d
mholiv@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 162d
Can’t tell if cult member or troll. Either way the comment is of 0 value.
XTL@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 161d
Also, brave is a series scam company. Always has been, always will be.
workgood@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -9 pts · 162d