That has to be a giant hood/cloak. Just look at the size of the real mouth and chin. The guy's wearing a prosthetic head the size of a big watermelon. It's so weird and creative... I'm always sad when revisionism kills something great. If not for projects like Despecialized 4k77 and the sequels, we would never see this version ever again.
I figured it was the Ian McDiarmid guy, since he was the emperor in return of the jedi and they just did prosthetics on him to be weird and creepy. Guess they hadn't even casted him yet?
And then in 2004, the on screen evidence was deleted with the DVD revision edits when they deleted the original emperor and replaced him/it/her/them with Ian McDiarmid retroactively.
My understanding was that Lucas did this because he wanted to try and make Han more of a “heroic” figure. When really, what makes Han such a compelling character is because he’s a dirtbag who unwittingly ends up in a heroic role just trying to make a buck.
I saw the original film in theaters as a kid. When Han shot Greedo, I was like, holy shit, what’s this guys deal? It made me pay more attention to him than any of the other characters.
The Solo movie, for all its flaws, at least tried to demonstrate that Han was a “shoot first” kind of guy and how he got that way.
Years ago I played in a band with this guy who’d write really good songs, then after we learned them and played them for a while, he’d want to start adding a bunch of stupid shit to them and we’d all have to say no, stop that. I would make fun of him by saying that he’s George Lucasing his own songs again and that would get him so pissed!
Praxis rings ruined movie explosions. They aren’t realistic at all. Explosions in space are mostly spherical. Therefore the original is the most realistic.
Plus once all the air burned up that was in the death star there would be no more left to fuel a fireball. So the parts of the death star getting blown away would look normal but the fireball would die off quickly and not spread very far.
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danekrae@lemmy.world · 66 pts · 166d
Ironic
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 166d
That has to be a giant hood/cloak. Just look at the size of the real mouth and chin. The guy's wearing a prosthetic head the size of a big watermelon. It's so weird and creative... I'm always sad when revisionism kills something great. If not for projects like Despecialized 4k77 and the sequels, we would never see this version ever again.
threelonmusketeers@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 165d
Wasn't it a female actress?
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 165d
I believe it was something weird like a female actress with like chimp eyes overlayed.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 165d
WAS it?? No shit. Look at that.
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Marjorie_Eaton
I figured it was the Ian McDiarmid guy, since he was the emperor in return of the jedi and they just did prosthetics on him to be weird and creepy. Guess they hadn't even casted him yet?
Edit: and looks like a different actor was used for "test shots" before the eventual final cut https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Elaine_Baker
And then in 2004, the on screen evidence was deleted with the DVD revision edits when they deleted the original emperor and replaced him/it/her/them with Ian McDiarmid retroactively.
sundray@lemmus.org · 43 pts · 166d
s@piefed.world · 42 pts · 166d
There is another
Zachariah@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 166d
erusuoyera@sh.itjust.works · 23 pts · 166d
moseschrute@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 165d
Why do AI company logos look like buttholes?
Zachariah@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 166d
asshole
hansolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 165d
I've been saying this for a year.
just2look@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 166d
What book is this?
ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 166d
Breakfast of Champions by Kurt Vonnegut Jr, if I am not mistaken.
just2look@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 166d
Thank you! Definitely need to read more Vonnegut.
hoodles@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 166d
Yeah, it's vonnegut
lastunusedusername2@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 166d
You are not
daggermoon@piefed.world · 39 pts · 166d
God, he changed the dumbest things.
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 166d
Han Shot First
and really, i think it was much better that way.
mech@feddit.org · 50 pts · 166d
Not only that, Han was the only one who shot.
gigastasio@sh.itjust.works · 33 pts · 166d
My understanding was that Lucas did this because he wanted to try and make Han more of a “heroic” figure. When really, what makes Han such a compelling character is because he’s a dirtbag who unwittingly ends up in a heroic role just trying to make a buck.
I saw the original film in theaters as a kid. When Han shot Greedo, I was like, holy shit, what’s this guys deal? It made me pay more attention to him than any of the other characters.
The Solo movie, for all its flaws, at least tried to demonstrate that Han was a “shoot first” kind of guy and how he got that way.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 166d
I think Lucas did it to create controversy to generate sales.
Especially maclunkey.
gigastasio@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 166d
Years ago I played in a band with this guy who’d write really good songs, then after we learned them and played them for a while, he’d want to start adding a bunch of stupid shit to them and we’d all have to say no, stop that. I would make fun of him by saying that he’s George Lucasing his own songs again and that would get him so pissed!
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 166d
Usually how it works.
Dead people don’t shoot second, after all.
Cypher@aussie.zone · 15 pts · 166d
However people generally don’t die instantly from a gut shot. Whether that applies to this particular alien though…
FuglyDuck@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 166d
Hydrostatic shock can do it easily, if there’s enough kinetic energy in that bolt. And judging by the craters blasters tend to leave, yep
Or we can just enjoy the show.
jerkface@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 166d
Not as adults.
tea@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 166d
We are enjoying...by arguing about it constantly. That is the fun now, right?
teft@piefed.social · 17 pts · 166d
Praxis rings ruined movie explosions. They aren’t realistic at all. Explosions in space are mostly spherical. Therefore the original is the most realistic.
gmtom@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 166d
Yeah wouldn't want my movie about telepathic space battle-monks with light swords to be ruined by unrealistic explosions.
LaLuzDelSol@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 166d
The explosion should have been completely silent! My immersion is ruined!!!
sem@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 165d
Unrealistic is ok if it doesn't look dumb.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 166d
Original is assymetric (perfection in the meme). Maybe you mean the first remake?
omega_x3@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 166d
Plus once all the air burned up that was in the death star there would be no more left to fuel a fireball. So the parts of the death star getting blown away would look normal but the fireball would die off quickly and not spread very far.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 166d
It was a scifi energy source and materials emit light when hot. You don't need oxygen.
null@lemmy.org · 14 pts · 166d
I'm unbothered by this change.
Tja@programming.dev · 1 pts · 165d
Or any other change, to be honest. Han shooting first or not, doesn't affect my enjoyment that much. Fun movie.
null@lemmy.org · 2 pts · 165d
I'm very bothered by that change.