this is as far as my internet sleuthing is going for now. It has the photographers name as well as the company. I found some of his other works, but I can't find an unedited version of this piece. Really sickens me when people censor art
This is a staged studio photo that both exotcises and eroticises a woman from a group of people were and are still actively being genocided, but dorks on here are all why can't i see her tits tho
My issue is with censoring nudity, especially considering the topic of this community. There is nothing inherently sexual with our naked bodies, I think censoring only strengthens the idea of that it is.
I agree that we need to respect the original people of Australia (and other places for that matter), and acknowledge the atrocities committed towards them and the ongoing harm that results from it[^1].
My belief is that an accompanying message, like they do (and are obliged to?) in Australia, to acknowledge the Aboriginals and Torres Straight Islanders, is more helpful than censoring parts of human beings.
Or ykno, it's more like "I can't believe someone was so pissed off that they showed a nipple in a piece of art that they went and defaced the art entirely"
It's like me saying that I don't like your comment bc it hurt my wittle feelings, so I think I'll just change your comment to "uwu yes daddy" because that makes me feel better. It's stupid fucking Americans and prudes having to take a piece of art with a message and make it about them, as always. Fucking prudes can't just let things be. If you're deathly afraid of a nipple and think it can unravel the very moral fabric of society and that's a good reason to tell women they deserve less rights than men, I'm willing to spend a decent section of my day taking time out to spite you.
With zweihanders, it's all about leverage. People can strike pretty fast with them - but because of the long handle (and sometimes holding the unsharpened part of the blade) giving them more leverage.
In some Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander communities, hearing recordings, seeing images or the names of deceased persons may cause sadness or distress and in some cases, offend against strongly held cultural prohibitions
I'm not fully versed in the complexities of this, but there's a taboo about depicting deceased Mob / Blak Fellas, this can extend to using a different name / not using their name, not depicting them in recordings, photographs, the like
it's important to be aware that during the more open colonial period, photographs like this were staged, likely coerced in contexts with limited consent. There's a lot like this where photographers have posed people beating women, and in other ways to justify their preconceived ideads about the natives they were actively involved in displacing
remembering this was at a time colonists did not consider Aboriginals as human, were stealing their bodies, selling their bones to museums, and treating them as animals
I encourage everyone to do some reading about this, and educate yourselves about cultures that have little to no understanding of
29 Comments
baguette@piefed.social · 53 pts · 157d
Why the US-style censorship on historic content?
hansolo@lemmy.today · 26 pts · 157d
No, she also invented the tube top.
Scubus@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 157d
this is as far as my internet sleuthing is going for now. It has the photographers name as well as the company. I found some of his other works, but I can't find an unedited version of this piece. Really sickens me when people censor art
baguette@piefed.social · 5 pts · 157d
I found this one as well: https://piefed.social/comment/10556273
PugJesus@piefed.social · 6 pts · 157d
idk, this is just how I found it.
baguette@piefed.social · 10 pts · 157d
Ah okay! Well, the question remains, but I guess I am not going to find the answer :) Thanks for clarifying!
Maybe they're from The Australian Institute of Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander Studies (AIATSIS) and/or from TROVE, many pictures there are restricted or not digitally available.
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 157d
that's bullshit.
Reminds me of Islamic theocracies that censor sports because sharia law.
This, is equally bad, if not worse.
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml · -7 pts · 157d
This is a staged studio photo that both exotcises and eroticises a woman from a group of people were and are still actively being genocided, but dorks on here are all why can't i see her tits tho
baguette@piefed.social · 9 pts · 157d
My issue is with censoring nudity, especially considering the topic of this community. There is nothing inherently sexual with our naked bodies, I think censoring only strengthens the idea of that it is.
I agree that we need to respect the original people of Australia (and other places for that matter), and acknowledge the atrocities committed towards them and the ongoing harm that results from it[^1].
My belief is that an accompanying message, like they do (and are obliged to?) in Australia, to acknowledge the Aboriginals and Torres Straight Islanders, is more helpful than censoring parts of human beings.
[^1]: Examples of such a message can be found here: https://aiatsis.gov.au/, and here: https://trove.nla.gov.au/
Scubus@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 157d
Or ykno, it's more like "I can't believe someone was so pissed off that they showed a nipple in a piece of art that they went and defaced the art entirely"
It's like me saying that I don't like your comment bc it hurt my wittle feelings, so I think I'll just change your comment to "uwu yes daddy" because that makes me feel better. It's stupid fucking Americans and prudes having to take a piece of art with a message and make it about them, as always. Fucking prudes can't just let things be. If you're deathly afraid of a nipple and think it can unravel the very moral fabric of society and that's a good reason to tell women they deserve less rights than men, I'm willing to spend a decent section of my day taking time out to spite you.
snooggums@piefed.world · 25 pts · 158d
It is early because my first thought was wondering why her top wasn't sepia like the rest of the picture.
PugJesus@piefed.social · 7 pts · 158d
Them Victorian mores
Man_kind@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 158d
I'm sorry, it says here, mopes.
Codpiece@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 158d
I was thinking “was the boob tube invented back then and did the idea migrate here or to there”.
It’s not even that early here!
Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club · 16 pts · 158d
Magnum@infosec.pub · 9 pts · 157d
I like her top, they were really ahead of their time.
_stranger_@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 157d
spandex sports bra is an ultra rare drop from kangaroos, so you know she's a serious hunter to have found one.
Broken@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 157d
This looks like my bloodborne character.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 158d
Is there an uncensored version? For science!
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 157d
?
we need the uncensored version because the censored one should have never existed!!!!
Not because some weirdo online wants to sexualise women older than their grandma.
Fuck western puritans shoving their values on everyone else and erasing history.
GrantUsEyes@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 157d
She's ready to fight god.
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 157d
Hell yeah she BONK
YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 157d
Metal! 🤘
dumples@piefed.social · 2 pts · 157d
Why is the sword so big? There's got to be a practical purpose for it
PugJesus@piefed.social · 4 pts · 157d
Big Bonk, presumably.
If you do no metalworking, scaling is your best tool for making a
blunterbetter blunt weapon. Put some heft behind it!dumples@piefed.social · 2 pts · 157d
Makes sense. More force at the end.
ButteryMonkey@piefed.social · 2 pts · 157d
I wonder how heavy that thing is.
Then again, I imagine it can’t possibly be heavier than claymores and zweihanders, and those were allegedly used despite being longer than I am tall..
PugJesus@piefed.social · 4 pts · 157d
With zweihanders, it's all about leverage. People can strike pretty fast with them - but because of the long handle (and sometimes holding the unsharpened part of the blade) giving them more leverage.
manuallybreathing@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 157d
https://aiatsis.gov.au/cultural-sensitivity
I'm not fully versed in the complexities of this, but there's a taboo about depicting deceased Mob / Blak Fellas, this can extend to using a different name / not using their name, not depicting them in recordings, photographs, the like
it's important to be aware that during the more open colonial period, photographs like this were staged, likely coerced in contexts with limited consent. There's a lot like this where photographers have posed people beating women, and in other ways to justify their preconceived ideads about the natives they were actively involved in displacing
remembering this was at a time colonists did not consider Aboriginals as human, were stealing their bodies, selling their bones to museums, and treating them as animals
I encourage everyone to do some reading about this, and educate yourselves about cultures that have little to no understanding of