yeah, you need an industrial base to build from scratch. But that's not that different if you want to build engines and oil refining from scratch. You'd have to start with a steam engine first and reboot industry from there.
for solar panels you need silicon with 99.99% degree purity. (10^-4 parts of impurities) you don't get that easily with medieval peasant technology. you need a high-tech vacuum chamber and some chemical to do the purification for you, and also repeated heating/cooling down. Then you need to spray the heated gaseous silicon on a surface and let it cool down slowly so it crystallizes ...
I would argue that the steam and even combustion engine are much easier to build than a solar panel, if you know how.
If he was given detailed instructions, I believe a mediaeval blacksmith could have build a steam engine. As soon as we go to 17th/18th century, we can probably build a combustion engine. Sure, it will be a bad engine, but it will do the job of burning refined oil and spinning.
But a solar panel? You need clean rooms, which need air purification, you need working knowledge of semiconductor manufacturing. Much harder than a solar thermal steam engine and a few lead or zinc batteries.
Look, I love the concept of solar power and I'm proud of my Australian state being one of the first jurisdictions in the world that will be 100% renewable. Buttttt....
It's pretty hard to be cooler than running a car on millions of explosions powered by dinosaur juice
“There’s been a lot of talk, especially of late, that Y.M.C.A. is somehow a gay anthem,” Willis, who wrote the lyrics for the 1978 hit, said on Facebook on Monday. “As I’ve said numerous times in the past, that is a false assumption based on the fact that my writing partner was gay, and some (not all) of Village People were gay, and that the first Village People album was totally about gay life.
“This assumption is also based on the fact that the YMCA was apparently being used as some sort of gay hangout and since one of the writers was gay and some of the Village People are gay, the song must be a message to gay people. To that I say once again, get your minds out of the gutter. It is not.”
Wow. Wow, wow, wow. There is a lot to unpack in that article.
Edit: From the paragraph that immediately follows:
The song, from the band’s third studio album, “Cruisin’” has spent years as an informal anthem of the LGBTQ community.
I came to age in that shit. To this day, I still struggle with the trauma. Glad things are better now, even if not much in some cases, for younger LGBTQ+ folks.
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WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 46 pts · 140d
You'd think an electric bike and a few solar panels would go a lot farther in a desert environment. Solarpunk version of mad max.
bob_lemon@feddit.org · 36 pts · 140d
Sensible Sebastian
Geobloke@aussie.zone · 8 pts · 140d
Raiding racks of solar panels and batteries is way less cool
Also would solar panels be harder to cobble together than an engine?
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 140d
Nah, easier. At least if you have access to solar panels and metal for wiring.
Now making a solar panel from scratch, that's a whole different story... At that point, just go with solar thermal low tech steam turbine or something
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 7 pts · 140d
yeah, you need an industrial base to build from scratch. But that's not that different if you want to build engines and oil refining from scratch. You'd have to start with a steam engine first and reboot industry from there.
SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 140d
And for the steel engine you'd need an advanced forge as well as the raw minerals with sufficient purity. As well as either coal or tons of wood
gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 140d
for solar panels you need silicon with 99.99% degree purity. (10^-4 parts of impurities) you don't get that easily with medieval peasant technology. you need a high-tech vacuum chamber and some chemical to do the purification for you, and also repeated heating/cooling down. Then you need to spray the heated gaseous silicon on a surface and let it cool down slowly so it crystallizes ...
Geobloke@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 139d
I don't think we'd be back to middle ages tech, it would be more like industrial revolution right?
LH0ezVT@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 139d
I would argue that the steam and even combustion engine are much easier to build than a solar panel, if you know how.
If he was given detailed instructions, I believe a mediaeval blacksmith could have build a steam engine. As soon as we go to 17th/18th century, we can probably build a combustion engine. Sure, it will be a bad engine, but it will do the job of burning refined oil and spinning.
But a solar panel? You need clean rooms, which need air purification, you need working knowledge of semiconductor manufacturing. Much harder than a solar thermal steam engine and a few lead or zinc batteries.
WanderingThoughts@europe.pub · 1 pts · 139d
Mad Max would be a lot different using those first primitive engines instead of the V8 and whatnot.
abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 137d
Are you telling me a load of PV panels strapped to a vehicle wouldn't look cool?
Geobloke@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 137d
Look, I love the concept of solar power and I'm proud of my Australian state being one of the first jurisdictions in the world that will be 100% renewable. Buttttt....
It's pretty hard to be cooler than running a car on millions of explosions powered by dinosaur juice
abbiistabbii@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 137d
But not the Eldritch Fusion Reactor in Space that's in a state of constant explosion?
Geobloke@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 134d
I'll admit, if you can you're tie that to your roof racks and storm off through the desert, that is much much cooler
Abyssian@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 140d
shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works · 39 pts · 140d
And my ass!
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 140d
Where’s your donkey?
artifex@piefed.social · 31 pts · 140d
That much muscle mass has to take a lot of protein to maintain. What on earth are they hunting out there in the desert?
Bratosch@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 140d
I mean to be fair, it takes place in Australia. Plenty of big ass spiders and dinosaur lizards to hunt
fartographer@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 140d
Ass spiders explains a lot
Bratosch@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 140d
It's like a spider, but instead of that big back part they have, it's two big butt cheeks instead
tyronenguyen@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 140d
Stupid sexy spiders!
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 140d
The clapping spider, I believe they call it.
certified_expert@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 140d
What do you think they do with the one that did not come out of the arena?
hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 139d
there's creatine in the grass down under
whotookkarl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 140d
Cabinals
TwilitSky@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 140d
You put that thing on several times a week. You can stop pretending it's for special occasions or events.
not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 139d
ur right, I sleep in this
JayK117@aussie.zone · 15 pts · 140d
"Uh, Pete, it's only been three days since the fuel shortage... Did you... Uh... Already have this costume?"
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 140d
Damn! I just donated all that stuff last year.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 9 pts · 140d
This guy has an interview where he's upset that he and his bottom are perceived as being gay
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 140d
Did he not see the movie?
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 4 pts · 140d
80's gay panic is a hell of a drug, for another wild take of "straight" dude cope:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/12/06/entertainment/ymca-not-gay-anthem-scli-intl
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 140d
Wow. Wow, wow, wow. There is a lot to unpack in that article.
Edit: From the paragraph that immediately follows:
theneverfox@pawb.social · 4 pts · 140d
Someone should do a parody about grinder, can't be subtle with things in 2026
not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 139d
also trump, the only president to blow an other president, puts it on all the time
InvalidName2@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 140d
I came to age in that shit. To this day, I still struggle with the trauma. Glad things are better now, even if not much in some cases, for younger LGBTQ+ folks.
Metostopholes@midwest.social · 3 pts · 140d
ACAB
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 3 pts · 139d
ACABEFC
All Cops Are Bastards Even Fictional Cops
Kaput@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 140d
Im halfway between Baymax and pillsburry doughboy. Wearing this, id probably get identified as an oïl réserve.
not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 139d
xD
SurfinBird@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 140d
Name that side-character from He-Man.
Ceruleum@lemmy.wtf · 7 pts · 140d
Lord very bigus.
dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 140d
"Fisto" is already taken. Most likely name would be something like "Mask Man."
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 140d
Oh yeah its all coming together
Retreaux@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 140d
GUZZOLINE!!
ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 140d
Gay BDSM or Mad Max?
Professorozone@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 140d
Time to break out my fuel crisis abs.
Hang on... This could take a while.
InvalidName2@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 140d
Yes, but also I've seen many of the folks who will suffer under the fuel crisis, so also, hell no.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 140d
this short expands on the Great Humungous' lore a bit
islandcoda42@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 140d
dan69@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 139d
Aerodynamic?
TractorDuffy@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 140d
No one has a body like that though
And be honest do you really want to see fat people dressed like that
whoisearth@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 140d
Hey Ive seen people dressed like that!