Tbh that needs to be higher, because that’s really not that much money these days. That’s just pretty much anyone who’s somewhat older and has a retirement account that’s been managed decently well, and a house.
Sure, not like both ass cheeks of your shitty uniparty aren't full of warmongers.
Don't bother replying with how this one's much worse.
We had that BS with the elections already
Then it was a stupid plan even from an electoral point of view.
I have an ongoing half joking bet since the 2nd day in the war that Trump will be talking about the parties in the island to distract people from the side effects of the war by June.
Sending the price of gas to the stratosphere, replacing the petrodollar schema by petroyuan, increasing the military spending by a huge margin, and antagonizing the entire world aren't enough of a distraction to guarantee people won't be thinking about it in the elections.
But doing that with 9 months of time for it to impact all the business and family budgets in your country is.
Threaten partners with tariffs. The same thing you've been slapping them with for absolutely no reason since you came into office. The same things that these partners now just expect to have to deal with when your mood changes. The same thing that courts have decided are illegal and that you can't actually enforce.
And that was before the Strait of Hormuz situation.
He can't convince former allies to help out of goodwill and solidarity because he's done everything possible to destroy that goodwill since he came into office.
He also can't convince them to help out of fear of the consequences either, because he has already imposed those consequences.
In addition, even if he had a threat or a reward that was meaningful, the one thing that's clear about Trump is that he never keeps his word. He doesn't even adhere to treaties that are legally binding. So, if he promised something extremely valuable, he probably wouldn't deliver. OTOH, if he threatened something extremely dire, he would probably chicken out.
The US war machine is expending itself like a senior citizen at a strip club.
It's awful to witness and truly miserable for everyone involved. But give Americans a week and they'll stumble back in clutching another fist full of Social Security cash to do it again.
You want to call these goons out as bad at strategy or wasteful of precious natural resources. But neither the US nor Russia seem to have a shortage of blood or treasure they're willing to throw away for another cheap thrill. This is it. The twilight of empire. What happens if they don't finish all over Central Europe and the Middle East, like they've been lusting after for 40 years?
You think Trump or Putin care what happens to their kids? Their grandkids? Nevermind all the young people their explosions of pent up unrealized empire ruin in the process.
This is what all those decades of Cold Warring was meant for. The grim harvest we've been growing since Truman dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and kicked off 70 years of intercontinental hate.
" the operation had been mistakenly labeled Operation Epic Furry on a first-draft document circulated through the Defense Department's secure email system."
Trust me. We aren't. Not a single NATO nation is coming to help.
America spent the last year alienating their allies. I'm so proud of our government here in Canada expanding trade with other nations and limiting them with the USA.
We're not your allies anymore. And you can blame for president for that.
America is alone. I guess you got Isreal or some shit.
74 Comments
shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works · 165 pts · 158d
Iran should offer to open the strait in exchange for the USA handing over trump and his sons
coalie@piefed.zip · 91 pts · 158d
Can we please add Vance, Johnson, ivanka, kushner, Clarence Thomas, Kavanaugh, and kid rock to make sure they accept?
CaptDust@sh.itjust.works · 30 pts · 158d
Dig up Cheney's corpse and send it with em.
Jesus_666@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 158d
They're a country, not a toxic waste dump.
errer@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 158d
On second thought hold the Kid Rock, we want Iran to say yes after all
JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 158d
And anyone with a net worth above $2 million
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 158d
Tbh that needs to be higher, because that’s really not that much money these days. That’s just pretty much anyone who’s somewhat older and has a retirement account that’s been managed decently well, and a house.
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 157d
That’s not much, can barely retire on that.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 23 pts · 158d
That’s an incredible deal for shareholder value.
hddsx@lemmy.ca · 22 pts · 158d
They probably want Bolton too
lennybird@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 158d
Deal.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 158d
John or Michael?
deacon@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 158d
Know what? Can’t be too safe, we send both.
Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 158d
Yes.
itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 158d
Or the complete, unredacted Epstein files
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 158d
Or both
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 158d
lol that would be incredible. And a fantastic deal, to boot.
trolololol@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 158d
Don't threaten me with a good time
Also what's in for Iran? Not fair throwing out garbage at their door.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 157d
Iran isn't my friend, so I'd happily shovel that shit to them. Get it out of my house too at the same time.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 157d
Sure, not like both ass cheeks of your shitty uniparty aren't full of warmongers.
Don't bother replying with how this one's much worse.
We had that BS with the elections already
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 124 pts · 158d
How to win at war:
qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website · 36 pts · 158d
But what if the foe is really the Epstein files?
masterofn001@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 158d
Then you have lost both the battle and the war.
And knowing is half the battle.
ViatorOmnium@piefed.social · 10 pts · 158d
Then it was a stupid plan even from an electoral point of view.
I have an ongoing half joking bet since the 2nd day in the war that Trump will be talking about the parties in the island to distract people from the side effects of the war by June.
marcos@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 158d
Sending the price of gas to the stratosphere, replacing the petrodollar schema by petroyuan, increasing the military spending by a huge margin, and antagonizing the entire world aren't enough of a distraction to guarantee people won't be thinking about it in the elections.
But doing that with 9 months of time for it to impact all the business and family budgets in your country is.
Gork@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 158d
Double down on the distraction.
Ooh look, we've got Marines to deploy!
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 158d
The real enemy was the secrets we made along the way.
Kcap@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 157d
Don't forget 6. Profit
Smaile@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 157d
oh that is deff not going to be the endstate of this.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 155d
Threaten partners with tariffs. The same thing you've been slapping them with for absolutely no reason since you came into office. The same things that these partners now just expect to have to deal with when your mood changes. The same thing that courts have decided are illegal and that you can't actually enforce.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 155d
He also threatened to invade some of us.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 155d
And that was before the Strait of Hormuz situation.
He can't convince former allies to help out of goodwill and solidarity because he's done everything possible to destroy that goodwill since he came into office.
He also can't convince them to help out of fear of the consequences either, because he has already imposed those consequences.
In addition, even if he had a threat or a reward that was meaningful, the one thing that's clear about Trump is that he never keeps his word. He doesn't even adhere to treaties that are legally binding. So, if he promised something extremely valuable, he probably wouldn't deliver. OTOH, if he threatened something extremely dire, he would probably chicken out.
Kcap@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 157d
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 68 pts · 158d
I live in New York City.
Besides the greed, the pedophilia, the racism, and the narcissism, the biggest problem people here have is he sheer, overwhelming stupidity.
Writer Fran Leibowitz put it best. "You don't know anybody as stupid as Donald Trump. You just don't."
Critical_Drinking@lemmy.world · 50 pts · 158d
The tangerine turd bit off more than he could chew, just like his employer blyatimir putrid.
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 158d
The US war machine is expending itself like a senior citizen at a strip club.
It's awful to witness and truly miserable for everyone involved. But give Americans a week and they'll stumble back in clutching another fist full of Social Security cash to do it again.
You want to call these goons out as bad at strategy or wasteful of precious natural resources. But neither the US nor Russia seem to have a shortage of blood or treasure they're willing to throw away for another cheap thrill. This is it. The twilight of empire. What happens if they don't finish all over Central Europe and the Middle East, like they've been lusting after for 40 years?
You think Trump or Putin care what happens to their kids? Their grandkids? Nevermind all the young people their explosions of pent up unrealized empire ruin in the process.
This is what all those decades of Cold Warring was meant for. The grim harvest we've been growing since Truman dropped the bomb on Hiroshima and kicked off 70 years of intercontinental hate.
ikidd@lemmy.world · 47 pts · 158d
More like it.
Diurnambule@jlai.lu · 4 pts · 157d
USA USA USA USA USA. Désillusion is crazy.
CaisideQC@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 157d
Québécois spotté, préparons la chasse-galerie pour envahir l'Iran!
nexguy@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 158d
"You could make the case that maybe we shouldn’t even be there at all, because we don’t need it. We have a lot of oil."
-Trump 3 weeks into the war he decided to do
CanadianMade@lemmy.ca · 25 pts · 158d
Epic Failure
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 158d
Epstein Failure
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 158d
TACO
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 157d
Before it was oil now its checks notes to protect billionaire pedofiles investments. Man we really are the bad guys....
veni_vedi_veni@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 157d
No olive branch, only arrows
DupaCycki@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 157d
The world's biggest military budget! 🇺🇲🦅
But half of it is spent on overpriced fast food... 🍔🍟
Jhex@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 157d
Operation Epstein
FurryFuryOlhonestjim@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 157d
No no no furries are good people!
Jhex@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 157d
true
texture@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 157d
epic furry*
ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 157d
Leave furries out of this!
texture@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 157d
" the operation had been mistakenly labeled Operation Epic Furry on a first-draft document circulated through the Defense Department's secure email system."
dankm@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 157d
So they expected it to be a purely infosec war?
ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 157d
Ahhh!
glitchdx@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 157d
Having the biggest numbers and shiniest toys doesn't make up for the fact that most if not all of the competent leadership is gone.
asg101@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 157d
Make America Grovel Again...
Then say "No".
CaisideQC@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 157d
Make America Gravel Again
YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 157d
Randelung@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 157d
Very regarded.
Smaile@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 157d
don't help
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 157d
Trust me. We aren't. Not a single NATO nation is coming to help.
America spent the last year alienating their allies. I'm so proud of our government here in Canada expanding trade with other nations and limiting them with the USA.
We're not your allies anymore. And you can blame for president for that.
America is alone. I guess you got Isreal or some shit.
stupidcasey@lemmy.world · -43 pts · 158d
I think it's more NATO get yer fuckin act together. We don't even need this oil you do.
This had to be done, so help police this straight now that the war is done, because if you can't defend an asset you can't own it.
This is governance 101 and if you don't have a monopoly on power you definitionally are not a government.
CannonFodder@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 158d
Really didn't have to be done.
stupidcasey@lemmy.world · -21 pts · 158d
Thanks I'll take your opinion as gospel.
pillowtags@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 19 pts · 158d
You could instead just defend your point, I mean you’re the one who said it had to happen, so why not say why?
stupidcasey@lemmy.world · -21 pts · 158d
The reason why I am not defending my point is because there's no win condition.
It is simply fuel for an ideological cult captured by corporate misinformation.
I might as well say what I just said because it will get the same reaction.
Kewlio250@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 157d
You may be the dumbest person I've seen on Lemmy
Knoxvomica@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 157d
ThE oNlY ReASoN I WoNT DeFEnD mY PoInT Is...
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 157d
What can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence.
Objection@lemmy.ml · 21 pts · 158d
This is the song that never ends, it just goes on and on, my friends...
stupidcasey@lemmy.world · -13 pts · 158d
Could have pulled out back then we just didn't.
Objection@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 158d
Lmao.
What the fuck is the point of attacking a country if all you're accomplishing is pissing them off?
Wrufieotnak@feddit.org · 3 pts · 157d
Taxpayer money was wasted and new toys for the military need to be bought with new taxpayer money.
Dionysus@leminal.space · 13 pts · 158d
Name checks out
pillowtags@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 158d
Oh the war is done now? Doesn’t seem like it! Also seems like we did need that oil when you look at oil prices and the economy in general…
Vinylraupe@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 158d
You seem to live by your username.
Tonava@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 157d
TachyonTele@piefed.social · 1 pts · 158d