Yes this was the point of the meme. I feel like dying in an airplane, but it is very unlikely that anything fatal will happen. I also feel like dying while driving through suburban traffic, and there the odds are much higher something could take me out.
It's just not true that no one desires to die. If you want to kill yourself, you're way more likely to use a car than a bike. But more likely to use a train than a aeroplane...
Flying is not low likelihood of death. Commercial passenger aviation is.
Private planes crash and kill their occupants fairly often.
Commercial flight is safe just because there are so many regulations that are (were?) strictly followed. If you really wanted to reduce auto deaths, you could absolutely regulate it down to the same risk as commercial aviation, but that would nerf the purpose of a car to the point that no one would actually use them.
Broadly speaking, the way regulations are written is according to our appetite for risk of death in that medium. Modes where you have some appearance of like cars and bikes see high acceptance of risk while modes where you are strictly "along for the ride" see low acceptance.
I don't think it's anti-bike at all. Biking is dangerous in a large number of countries but largely due to cars and inadequate infrastructure protecting bicyclists
That's simply not true in the big picture. Biking is a net benefit virtually everywhere; the risks are more than offset by the benefits to your lifespan. Biking is the opposite of dangerous.
Like, it's because of cars that its dangerous. I recognise that a lot of countries have much better infrastructure that makes it much safer but our infrastructure is shit. I say that as someone who does bike as a means of transport often
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SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz · 51 pts · 166d
I feel like the axes need better labeling. Putting the labels on the negative is confusing.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 16 pts · 166d
It's the dual-directions arrow
33550336@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 166d
This is what I was going to say. Arrows typically points only right and up, so the opposite direction is negative.
jol@discuss.tchncs.de · 33 pts · 166d
Fun idea, bad execution. Do it again with text that isn't for ants, axis with a single arrow, and labels on the positive side, and a legible font.
jerkface@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 166d
Hey, this guy isn't an ant! Swarm him!!
luthis@lemmy.nz · 15 pts · 166d
Idk about the bikes, downhill mountain biking is very safe as long as you don't crash
Fusselwurm@feddit.org · 10 pts · 166d
falling off a mountain is also very safe until the moment you hit some rock
PumaStoleMyBluff@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 166d
You could land on a pile of one million pillows, it's impossible to say. Not the mountain's fault if you land on rocks.
Fusselwurm@feddit.org · 3 pts · 166d
still going to sue the mountain for negligence
victorz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 166d
This one doesn't understand probability lol
Gladaed@feddit.org · 2 pts · 166d
Is joke, is funny.
victorz@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 166d
Psst, I'm in on the joke
amikulo@slrpnk.net · 15 pts · 167d
This stemmed from me joking with a friend that it is unfortunate that flying is so safe because I always want to die when I'm on plane.
KoboldCoterie@pawb.social · 5 pts · 166d
Which is weirdly not reflected by your graph, which shows Flying as having a very low desire to die...Misread the graph, kindly ignore me.
tyler@programming.dev · 10 pts · 166d
No their graph shows that they have a low likelihood of dying but a high desire.
KoboldCoterie@pawb.social · 6 pts · 166d
Oh... You're correct. Reading comprehension is apparently not my strong suit tonight.
four@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 166d
This is a confusing graph, not just your fault
Fusselwurm@feddit.org · 15 pts · 166d
no-one desires to die.
Maybe do it with "fear of dying" instead?
SomeoneSomewhere@lemmy.nz · 11 pts · 166d
Desire-to-die is potentially a reasonable way to describe 15 hours in an economy airline seat, or stuck in/as traffic.
I.e. so fed up with this that you'd rather be dead.
amikulo@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 166d
Yes this was the point of the meme. I feel like dying in an airplane, but it is very unlikely that anything fatal will happen. I also feel like dying while driving through suburban traffic, and there the odds are much higher something could take me out.
blinfabian@feddit.nl · 11 pts · 166d
speak for yourself man
jerkface@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 166d
It's just not true that no one desires to die. If you want to kill yourself, you're way more likely to use a car than a bike. But more likely to use a train than a aeroplane...
evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 166d
Flying is not low likelihood of death. Commercial passenger aviation is.
Private planes crash and kill their occupants fairly often.
Commercial flight is safe just because there are so many regulations that are (were?) strictly followed. If you really wanted to reduce auto deaths, you could absolutely regulate it down to the same risk as commercial aviation, but that would nerf the purpose of a car to the point that no one would actually use them.
Broadly speaking, the way regulations are written is according to our appetite for risk of death in that medium. Modes where you have some appearance of like cars and bikes see high acceptance of risk while modes where you are strictly "along for the ride" see low acceptance.
fenrasulfr@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 166d
So where do we put motorcycle riders? Is there a suicidal category on this graph?
Nemo@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 167d
GTFO with your antibike propaganda.
NotSteve_@piefed.ca · 20 pts · 166d
I don't think it's anti-bike at all. Biking is dangerous in a large number of countries but largely due to cars and inadequate infrastructure protecting bicyclists
jerkface@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 166d
That's simply not true in the big picture. Biking is a net benefit virtually everywhere; the risks are more than offset by the benefits to your lifespan. Biking is the opposite of dangerous.
NotSteve_@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 166d
I mean I agree but you can't say riding on something like this "bike route" in Ottawa, Canada isn't a death wish
Like, it's because of cars that its dangerous. I recognise that a lot of countries have much better infrastructure that makes it much safer but our infrastructure is shit. I say that as someone who does bike as a means of transport often
amikulo@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 166d
I love biking! Hence the low desire to die. I feel so much better all day after biking.
I am also biking in Kansas City Missouri though where drivers will directly threaten to kill me.
oneser@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 166d
The fact that this could pretty much be a pcm meme too makes it top notch!
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 164d
Exercise is good for mental wellbeing though
amikulo@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 163d
That's why it's in the negative positive quadrant. Low desire to die, high risk of dying (at least in my city)