The people I stole it from stole it first. Fiction is like Mexican street food: it's mostly the same ingredients, the artistry is in the preparation and proportions.
My Adventure Time campaign was so dope. I played Snake Pool - Figure In The Background to cut each session at the end just like the show always cuts to Island Song. Idk how much was plagiarized besides the future Ooo setting but it was a fucken blast. I improved nearly everything.
my best TTRGP night, i had a murder mystery. turns out, Garfield the Cat was a ghost and the ghost did it. it was an I'mSorryJon night, and one of our players hates cats.
Today, im my dnd session, my players befriended a dirty, covered in mud druid. Turning his life around, and convincing him to rejoin society, and not fight the party.
Copying from art sites doesn't destroy the environment and doesn't flood the internet with slop and isn't used to justify firing maaaive numbers of people.
So when googling icons and using them, do you take note of the source? I've come across many where the artist specifically says not to use the image in tabletops or rpgs or icons or profile pics. You're directly disrespecting the author if you straight up use their image(s) in the tabletop against their wishes.
As for environmentally-destroying image generators, I only use local models I can run on my own pc. A microwave is 5x more environmentally impactful, and if I want generic_npc_worker_328, I take it as an artistic direction to ai generate a token of said generic_npc_worker_328...
You’re directly disrespecting the author if you straight up use their image(s) in the tabletop against their wishes.
Using a government logo, a still from a movie, middle age snails riding knights, or something someone made last week are all the same thing when used for non-commercial purposes. I don't care about the artist's opinion when not using it for commercial purposes.
i'm torn. if you want to have a portrait, generate it however you feel. i personally dislike AI art because i am a musician and [long rant excised] but y'know. it turned out one of our players really liked drawing and drew portraits of our characters that were better than what each of us did, which was really neat and special. but that didn't happen until each of us tried on our own first, right?
Not to mention, there's charm and motivation and growth in doing your best.
Silly crayon scribble? Cool, you did your best and it's YOURS. And this might motivate someone to express themselves further in pursuit of getting it "just right." It's fun. Like the game is fun.
But then yeah, we have
"GeNeRaTe MuH pErFeCt OC pLz"
Cool, your fantasy slop can go on the pile with the rest of the slop. Bleh. Nobody cares nor should they. It's nothing special.
I think a driving factor of Ai usage is people being intimidated and fearful to pick up a pencil because they think they'll get shamed to oblivion for not being born already a famous tiktokstagram artist with 10bil followers.
yeah but is it really worth it to learn how to draw and color etc only for the purposes of a D&D portrait? maybe for some, and obv my players get the choice to do whatever, but with day jobs and lives, getting together to play itself is a commitment so I don't see the issue in creating a one-time portrait just for the purposes of quick execution
I'm also a musician and artist and I rant about AI art and its effects all the time so yeah I get it
that's the thing, if you do it yourself in crayon it's better than whatever the AI does. again, i don't really care at my table what the other players do, but human > AI all day every day. Honestly, i see the LLM bullshit as a crutch that gets folk who can't or don't have the time to be able to approximate what those of us who have invested the time and blood and sweat into getting the skills. i don't really mind crutches as long as you have a person thinking things through in there, but if you're using crutches exclusively, right?
33 Comments
umbrella@lemmy.ml · 38 pts · 154d
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 154d
if you are not inspired by art, how can you make art?
Zombiepirate@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 154d
The people I stole it from stole it first. Fiction is like Mexican street food: it's mostly the same ingredients, the artistry is in the preparation and proportions.
ruuster13@lemmy.zip · 25 pts · 154d
It's not plagiarism if you're not publishing. And I bet the DM knows exactly what their references are if players ask.
OfficeMonkey@lemmy.today · 17 pts · 154d
Shouldn't the first image be "Successfully scheduling?"
RQG@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 154d
Now that's just unrealistic expectations.
iltoroargento@lemmy.sdf.org · 5 pts · 154d
I shuddered reading your comment. Scheduling is the worst.
mr_noxx@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 154d
ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com · 16 pts · 154d
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 154d
demlet@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 154d
It's all plagiarism, baby.
Zoomboingding@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 154d
The key is to plagiarize your obscure favorites. They don't know about the material, and you get to make them experience it!
Sanctus@anarchist.nexus · 10 pts · 154d
My Adventure Time campaign was so dope. I played Snake Pool - Figure In The Background to cut each session at the end just like the show always cuts to Island Song. Idk how much was plagiarized besides the future Ooo setting but it was a fucken blast. I improved nearly everything.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 154d
my best TTRGP night, i had a murder mystery. turns out, Garfield the Cat was a ghost and the ghost did it. it was an I'mSorryJon night, and one of our players hates cats.
chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 154d
Plagiarism is just the way human culture is supposed to work.
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 154d
Pfft, everything after Homer is a copy paste.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 154d
look i know the simpsons did it first but if i thought of it independently then i get at least half a writing credut
demlet@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 154d
Homer was just retelling stories that had already been passed down orally for centuries if not millennia...
pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 154d
"Curse of Straud" is fantastic, and blatantly uses Bram Stoker's work. If Bram were Disney, we wouldn't have "Curse of Straud".
GrabtharsHammer@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 154d
But remember to call it always, please, "research".
Harvey656@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 154d
Today, im my dnd session, my players befriended a dirty, covered in mud druid. Turning his life around, and convincing him to rejoin society, and not fight the party.
Immediately after they killed a pimp.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 3 pts · 154d
Oh so they're environment and sex worker hating villains
Harvey656@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 154d
Maybe haha
Blaster_M@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 154d
...and some players somehow feel ai generated tokens are worse than that actual piracy of searching art sites for token images
its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 154d
That's some loaded language, but they're right. AI tokens are bad and they should feel bad.
snooggums@piefed.world · 5 pts · 154d
Copying from art sites doesn't destroy the environment and doesn't flood the internet with slop and isn't used to justify firing maaaive numbers of people.
Blaster_M@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 154d
So when googling icons and using them, do you take note of the source? I've come across many where the artist specifically says not to use the image in tabletops or rpgs or icons or profile pics. You're directly disrespecting the author if you straight up use their image(s) in the tabletop against their wishes.
As for environmentally-destroying image generators, I only use local models I can run on my own pc. A microwave is 5x more environmentally impactful, and if I want generic_npc_worker_328, I take it as an artistic direction to ai generate a token of said generic_npc_worker_328...
snooggums@piefed.world · 1 pts · 154d
Using a government logo, a still from a movie, middle age snails riding knights, or something someone made last week are all the same thing when used for non-commercial purposes. I don't care about the artist's opinion when not using it for commercial purposes.
Wolf314159@startrek.website · 1 pts · 154d
Fair use is not disrespectful, it's not illegal, it's not worsening the climate crisis like your local models.
Blaster_M@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 154d
Gaming on a pc worsens the climate crisis more than me once in a while using a local model.
cypherix93@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 154d
my players love to generate their portraits with AI bc they feel they have agency on how to present their character on the board
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 154d
i'm torn. if you want to have a portrait, generate it however you feel. i personally dislike AI art because i am a musician and [long rant excised] but y'know. it turned out one of our players really liked drawing and drew portraits of our characters that were better than what each of us did, which was really neat and special. but that didn't happen until each of us tried on our own first, right?
MonkeMischief@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 154d
Not to mention, there's charm and motivation and growth in doing your best.
Silly crayon scribble? Cool, you did your best and it's YOURS. And this might motivate someone to express themselves further in pursuit of getting it "just right." It's fun. Like the game is fun.
But then yeah, we have "GeNeRaTe MuH pErFeCt OC pLz" Cool, your fantasy slop can go on the pile with the rest of the slop. Bleh. Nobody cares nor should they. It's nothing special.
I think a driving factor of Ai usage is people being intimidated and fearful to pick up a pencil because they think they'll get shamed to oblivion for not being born already a famous tiktokstagram artist with 10bil followers.
cypherix93@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 154d
yeah but is it really worth it to learn how to draw and color etc only for the purposes of a D&D portrait? maybe for some, and obv my players get the choice to do whatever, but with day jobs and lives, getting together to play itself is a commitment so I don't see the issue in creating a one-time portrait just for the purposes of quick execution
I'm also a musician and artist and I rant about AI art and its effects all the time so yeah I get it
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 154d
that's the thing, if you do it yourself in crayon it's better than whatever the AI does. again, i don't really care at my table what the other players do, but human > AI all day every day. Honestly, i see the LLM bullshit as a crutch that gets folk who can't or don't have the time to be able to approximate what those of us who have invested the time and blood and sweat into getting the skills. i don't really mind crutches as long as you have a person thinking things through in there, but if you're using crutches exclusively, right?