Well, I don’t know about most dangerous weapon. Staying in universe, on a linear scale from „a stick“ to „the Death Star“, I’d argue it is pretty close to the stick.
The thing with the OT is that if you mentally replace James Earl Jones' Vader voice with Hayden Christensen's it all works perfectly. Vader's imposing nature came entirely from the suit and the voice; deep down he was still just a kid whining about sand.
Ehh... I always had the impression that judicious Force use and guidance got Palpatine to where he was. In charge of the weapon of planetary destruction.
I wonder: since the Death Star was powered by kyber crystals, is it effectively a giant lightsaber? (Also, this allows me to share my long-held head canon that the reason Luke’s RotJ lightsaber is green is because the only kyber crystals he could find were salvaged from the Death Star wreckage)
Pretty sure the Sith and Jedi killed more people throughout history using lightsabers than either of the two death stars ever did, even with one of them blowing up an entire planet.
How likely do you think you'd be blown up by a nuke vs stabbed or cut with a knife, hmm? You are in more danger from cutting yourself making dinner tonight than you are of being nuked.
Yes, and a cat is much more likely to bite me than a great white shark. Yet I still pet cats and stay the fuck away from great white sharks. Wonder why that is?
Being in danger from something does not mean it's the more dangerous weapon. But this is going to turn in to a pointless discussion about what it means for a weapon to be dangerous. So you're right for some definitions of dangerous.
Is that a still from the actual movie, or just from production?
I just re-watched the scene and didn't see this. But it's true, after trying the lightsabre out for a bit, he turns it off, sits down, and promptly points it directly at OB1.
It's in the original and I don't think the scene was changed in any of the re-releases. But it's in the background while Obi Wan is talking for like a second.
From way back in the books or something, I seem to recall a story arc that implied he was a clone, and not the original Ben Kenobi, hence the nickname. I think that idea got dropped from the main cannon, though.
IIRC Lucas explained at some point that "R2D2" was a film projectionist term, like "reel two, disc two" or something like that.
I also kinda feel like having a magic sword that cuts through anything might be a bad idea when you're on a spaceship and protected from hard vacuum by a thin shell.
Isn't it canon that they can turn down the power of the lightsaber to make it safe for training situations? I seem to remember reading some story where one guy is berated for injuring someone with a lightsaber that was turned down to training conditions, implying that he had actively tried to hurt them.
To be fair, at that time, we had no idea what a lightsaber could or could not cut through either. The entire first movie, we just see them block shots from a training drone, and hit another lightsaber. We don't see them cut anything until the wampa cave at the start of Empire (and I'm still amazed how luke got his feet out of the ice and still had all 10 toes...).
Do you think that lightsaber had a training setting so it didn't actually damage anything? Because if it did I can imagine Anakin switching that on while killing the younglings and batting them out the council chamber windows like he's at the batting cages.
Imagine Obiwan put the lightsaber in training mode and never told Luke about it. Then Luke doesn't know what they are supposed to do and basically just trains with it and fights with it under the understanding it is basically just a riot control baton until he loses his hand to Darth Vader at the end of Empire.
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JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social · 67 pts · 156d
Yeah, I get that it was just a movie, but it was pretty amazing how reckless OB1 was with letting Luke handle a lightsabre from the first go.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 96 pts · 156d
handed one of the most dangerous weapons in the galaxy; immediately points it at his own face
BennyInc@feddit.org · 43 pts · 156d
Well, I don’t know about most dangerous weapon. Staying in universe, on a linear scale from „a stick“ to „the Death Star“, I’d argue it is pretty close to the stick.
Sumocat@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 155d
The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the Force.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 155d
Never demonstrates this
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 155d
The thing with the OT is that if you mentally replace James Earl Jones' Vader voice with Hayden Christensen's it all works perfectly. Vader's imposing nature came entirely from the suit and the voice; deep down he was still just a kid whining about sand.
edgemaster72@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 155d
Anakin never reached the "show don't tell" portion of his training before his corruption and fall
LorIps@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 154d
Darth Nihilus
(Sorry for the fandom link, AFAIK Star Wars hasn't migrated yet.)
bitjunkie@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 154d
I'm out of the loop… Why is everyone mad at Fandom?
LorIps@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 154d
Way too many ads, they deface wiki pages to cram more ads in etc.
Minecraft and a few other have moved away already, I hope Star Wars will follow soon.
5too@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 155d
Ehh... I always had the impression that judicious Force use and guidance got Palpatine to where he was. In charge of the weapon of planetary destruction.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 1 pts · 155d
Luke literally used the force to aim his shot that destroyed the first Death Star. 🤨
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 154d
And Vader didn't use the force to stop them!
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 2 pts · 154d
Maybe he couldn't sense Han coming in for the assist because Luke's aura was too strong. 🤔
FrChazzz@lemmus.org · 6 pts · 155d
I wonder: since the Death Star was powered by kyber crystals, is it effectively a giant lightsaber? (Also, this allows me to share my long-held head canon that the reason Luke’s RotJ lightsaber is green is because the only kyber crystals he could find were salvaged from the Death Star wreckage)
lightnsfw@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 154d
Kind of. The book about the girl from Rogue One goes into it but I don't remember the details or even the name of the book
Kolanaki@pawb.social · -2 pts · 156d
Pretty sure the Sith and Jedi killed more people throughout history using lightsabers than either of the two death stars ever did, even with one of them blowing up an entire planet.
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 156d
With that kind of reasoning knives are more dangerous than nukes in the real world.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 2 pts · 156d
How likely do you think you'd be blown up by a nuke vs stabbed or cut with a knife, hmm? You are in more danger from cutting yourself making dinner tonight than you are of being nuked.
MerryJaneDoe@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 155d
Yes, and a cat is much more likely to bite me than a great white shark. Yet I still pet cats and stay the fuck away from great white sharks. Wonder why that is?
trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 155d
Being in danger from something does not mean it's the more dangerous weapon. But this is going to turn in to a pointless discussion about what it means for a weapon to be dangerous. So you're right for some definitions of dangerous.
JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social · 12 pts · 156d
Is that a still from the actual movie, or just from production?
I just re-watched the scene and didn't see this. But it's true, after trying the lightsabre out for a bit, he turns it off, sits down, and promptly points it directly at OB1.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 21 pts · 156d
It's in the original and I don't think the scene was changed in any of the re-releases. But it's in the background while Obi Wan is talking for like a second.
WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 155d
It's one of the few scenes I wish was changed on the re-releases, since the jump-cut when the lightsaber is activated was so obvious.
egrets@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 155d
It's just a set photo. It never happened on film.
5too@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 155d
...how did I never relize that Kenobi has a droid's name?!
JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social · 2 pts · 155d
From way back in the books or something, I seem to recall a story arc that implied he was a clone, and not the original Ben Kenobi, hence the nickname. I think that idea got dropped from the main cannon, though.
IIRC Lucas explained at some point that "R2D2" was a film projectionist term, like "reel two, disc two" or something like that.
houndeyes@toast.ooo · 8 pts · 155d
My dude about to get that Eastern European Lasik surgery.
dubyakay@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 155d
What are you on about? Eastern European Lasik is top notch.
tal@lemmy.today · 19 pts · 156d
I also kinda feel like having a magic sword that cuts through anything might be a bad idea when you're on a spaceship and protected from hard vacuum by a thin shell.
thebestaquaman@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 156d
Isn't it canon that they can turn down the power of the lightsaber to make it safe for training situations? I seem to remember reading some story where one guy is berated for injuring someone with a lightsaber that was turned down to training conditions, implying that he had actively tried to hurt them.
ech@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 156d
I think that's true, but at the time, the only canon was Luke swinging around a laser sword willy-nilly.
Crozekiel@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 154d
To be fair, at that time, we had no idea what a lightsaber could or could not cut through either. The entire first movie, we just see them block shots from a training drone, and hit another lightsaber. We don't see them cut anything until the wampa cave at the start of Empire (and I'm still amazed how luke got his feet out of the ice and still had all 10 toes...).
ech@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 154d
That is also true!
justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 156d
In principle yes. But OB1 was also a very powerful Jedi, who would have sensed any serious threats
neclimdul@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 155d
Like father, like son.
RedFrank24@piefed.social · 8 pts · 155d
Do you think that lightsaber had a training setting so it didn't actually damage anything? Because if it did I can imagine Anakin switching that on while killing the younglings and batting them out the council chamber windows like he's at the batting cages.
Crozekiel@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 154d
Imagine Obiwan put the lightsaber in training mode and never told Luke about it. Then Luke doesn't know what they are supposed to do and basically just trains with it and fights with it under the understanding it is basically just a riot control baton until he loses his hand to Darth Vader at the end of Empire.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 156d
family guy did the same parody, they tried do eye surgery, but he telekinetically accidentally stabbed her eye with it.