The Houthis are a large group controlling a big area of Yemen, but not the official government of Yemen. So if the Houthis enter a conflict, that’s not the same as the government of Yemen doing so. But Israel is trying to equate the two. They’re basically saying “Yemeni government, we hold you responsible, we think the Houthis are your proxy.”
So this accusation is not so much about the mere act of entering the conflict, itself, and more about WHO has actually entered it.
A comparison might be if Hezbollah carries out an attack, that’s not necessarily the recognized Lebanese government doing it. But Israel will blame them anyway, if for not other reason than to accuse them of not doing enough to stop it. This comparison is quite apt because both Hezbollah and the Houthis are well aligned with and funded by Iran.
The Houthis are a large group controlling a big area of Yemen, but not the official government of Yemen
They're not the de jure government, that is, the one with international recognition, but they are essentially the de-facto government. They control the capital, and the most populous half of the Country.
Or of Hamas attacks Israel, then Israel ahsnjistbartack d Israel. Obviously, this doesn't apply to any countries that recognise the state or Palestine. Israel does not.
Vietnam didn't have a massive effect on global trade that affects every economy on earth. The longer it goes on, the more major players will want to bring it to a swifter conclusion. It won't be a multi decade slog between a handful of countries, but a Great War that drags dozens of nations into it. It's a mini World War, not a forever war like Afghanistan. It'll only turn into another Vietnam if America tries to nation build, and I think America giving up and going home with Iran in shambles is far more likely.
but since the current american regime and israel ar clashing and flip flopping around regime change no prediction in that regard can be made imo
and it will probably become a forever war in my opinion, if the us flees from the war, the strait still wont be open due to iran demanding reparations.
so the options are, reparations for iran, or invasion and regime change
and ground war is something that majorly changed in the last 5 years, so one could expect high casualties for the invader
if the us flees from the war, the strait still wont be open due to iran demanding reparations.
lol, no. Keeping the strait closed without the US still attacking makes no sense. They'd just receive even more hostility from the gulf states while wasting money and resources. If the US withdraws, they'll open the strait so they can focus on preparing for the next war. They'll demand reparations, but they know full well that they will never get them. Reparations aren't a serious part of the conversation, only security guarantees that the US won't immediately attack again.
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kreskin@lemmy.world · 59 pts · 176d
israel started it. How can they "accuse" anyone of entering the conflict. Stupid criminal posers.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 176d
Yeah I guess it's fine when Israel fucks with Lebanon
scarabic@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 176d
The Houthis are a large group controlling a big area of Yemen, but not the official government of Yemen. So if the Houthis enter a conflict, that’s not the same as the government of Yemen doing so. But Israel is trying to equate the two. They’re basically saying “Yemeni government, we hold you responsible, we think the Houthis are your proxy.”
So this accusation is not so much about the mere act of entering the conflict, itself, and more about WHO has actually entered it.
A comparison might be if Hezbollah carries out an attack, that’s not necessarily the recognized Lebanese government doing it. But Israel will blame them anyway, if for not other reason than to accuse them of not doing enough to stop it. This comparison is quite apt because both Hezbollah and the Houthis are well aligned with and funded by Iran.
bufalo1973@piefed.social · 4 pts · 176d
It's projection. As Israel has a terrorist group that's also the government they think everyone else has the same relation.
SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 176d
They're not the de jure government, that is, the one with international recognition, but they are essentially the de-facto government. They control the capital, and the most populous half of the Country.
hitmyspot@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 176d
Or of Hamas attacks Israel, then Israel ahsnjistbartack d Israel. Obviously, this doesn't apply to any countries that recognise the state or Palestine. Israel does not.
Stop hitting yourself meme here.
theacharnian@lemmy.ca · 43 pts · 176d
Hey Israelis, if you don't want wars to escalate, don't start wars.
Fizz@lemmy.nz · 30 pts · 176d
Oop full-scale regional conflict. Who could have seen this one coming
SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 176d
Not to mention, Afghanistan and Pakistan are at war with each other too 🙃
Fizz@lemmy.nz · 6 pts · 176d
They have been for a while but still
Adl@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 177d
Death to America
Death to Israel
cheese_greater@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 176d
The sooner Netanyahu and his wife are in prison, the sooner everything can start healing
CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 176d
Why are we blaming netanyahu specifically? If anything he's part of the moderates in israel, the whole country is ravenous
cheese_greater@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 175d
Lol
StillAlive@piefed.world · 9 pts · 176d
Are we going to see blockade in the red sea too?
Eril@feddit.org · 5 pts · 176d
So every ship has to go around all of Africa? RIP every supply chain
Edit: Remember when that one ship got stuck in suez canal? Now take the same impact, but indefinitely 🫠
bufalo1973@piefed.social · 6 pts · 176d
Except for Spanish ships😁
And Chinese, Indian, ...
Danquebec@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 176d
I've seen a professor predict this.
StillAlive@piefed.world · 1 pts · 176d
Is it Jiang?😒
Danquebec@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 176d
Yes, couldn't remember the name.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 176d
Well...
...this is going about as well as you'd expect from two war leaders who are qualified only to be TV show hosts.
poopkins@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 176d
Who this? New war
Ferrous@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 176d
Thr moment US boots hit the ground, WWIII has begun.
ajikeshi@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 176d
i disagree... i think it will be another vietnam
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 176d
Vietnam didn't have a massive effect on global trade that affects every economy on earth. The longer it goes on, the more major players will want to bring it to a swifter conclusion. It won't be a multi decade slog between a handful of countries, but a Great War that drags dozens of nations into it. It's a mini World War, not a forever war like Afghanistan. It'll only turn into another Vietnam if America tries to nation build, and I think America giving up and going home with Iran in shambles is far more likely.
ajikeshi@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 174d
i agree on your point affecting trade.
but since the current american regime and israel ar clashing and flip flopping around regime change no prediction in that regard can be made imo
and it will probably become a forever war in my opinion, if the us flees from the war, the strait still wont be open due to iran demanding reparations.
so the options are, reparations for iran, or invasion and regime change
and ground war is something that majorly changed in the last 5 years, so one could expect high casualties for the invader
TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 174d
lol, no. Keeping the strait closed without the US still attacking makes no sense. They'd just receive even more hostility from the gulf states while wasting money and resources. If the US withdraws, they'll open the strait so they can focus on preparing for the next war. They'll demand reparations, but they know full well that they will never get them. Reparations aren't a serious part of the conversation, only security guarantees that the US won't immediately attack again.