Thank you, I use a combination of "KDE rounded corners" "Klassy" and "Darkly", both do not use the slow aurorae theme engine thingy but written in native C++ so it's pretty fast, I haven't tried Void yet because Void scare me
I love Gruvbox. My favorite color scheme. If its not, its probably derived version of Gruvbox. My current one is different, simply because I wanted to have a different scheme after years of same.
I could care less about apps, because I can just avoid them. My concern is the OS level stuff, and currently, all of the legislation is around requirements that the OS itself capture birthdate data.
The moment that becomes mandatory at the OS level, is the moment I drop whatever it is that is forcing that issue. Systemd was the first to pre-emptively comply with facilitating the change at scale, so chances are, they will keep doing the same going forward.
Just one more crack in the levee against computer privacy. This is always how it starts.
No one asked anyone to make that change but it was done regardless. The laws created in those states were (from my understanding) implemented defensively in a political sense due to how federal laws were being considered but weren't actively requested to be enforced technologically.
Those that don't see this change as a step in a regressive trend but are in a position to make changes are usually the ones that lead us further down the path, intentionally or not.
I don't think elogind hooks into other inits directly, but it it is a fork of the logind part of systemd that has been altered so that it can work without systemd, if that's what you mean.
If you've never installed Linux before, I would start with something user-friendly, like Kubuntu or Bazzite. Both come with KDE as their main Desktop Environment ("DE"), so you could do what OP did looks-wise.
If you're a technical user, and don't hate having to sometimes do things manually, try Garuda Linux - it's Arch-based, but catered very towards Linux newbies and does a lot of hand-holding. I use it and I enjoy it very much.
To specifically do what OP did with his DE - KDE comes with the concept of Panels and Widgets. The top bar you see in the screenshot is a Panel. On it, there are (from right to left) the System Tray widget, a Spacer widget, a Digital Clock widget with customised display format (something you can do in the settings of the widget), another Spacer, an Icons-Only Task Manager widget (displays active applications and lets you pin applications - like the Taskbar in Windows or Dock in macOS), and finally the Application Launcher widget (the Start menu equivalent). Everything is pretty heavily customised (presumably with Panel Colorizer? Not sure), so that - out of the box - even with this exact setup copied, yours would look slightly different.
Oh! You might find this useful. It's a list of various setting changes/fixes I made after switching and encountering various issues, or annoyances. Some of these were under Kubuntu, most are under Garuda, but I don't think anything in there is distro-specific, so it should work on both Debian-based and Arch-based.
I ran Artix for a few days but ran into audio server issues. The issue was that there wasn't an audio server installed so I had not sounds at all. I managed to get everything working after some trial and error. As expected, most of the online help is written with systemd in mind. A little while later I installed another application which installed alsa as a dependency which broke my audio again. I went back to EndeavourOS after that.
What audio server did you use? I use pipewire, I only need to install *-openrc equivalent packages on top of base pipewire packages and enable it with OpenRC for it to work
Going to the dark side stings after years of perfecting my dotfiles. That customization muscle memory does not transfer over. How are you handling the loss of environment control?
Does it support unit dependencies? That's pretty much the only reason I use systemd outside of work. Edit: ah yeah it sure does. I know what I'm playing with next weekend.
It's not that hard to use, you only need to learn a few basics OpenRC command (how to enable/disable services stop/start services and service status), as for docs I haven't read any yet
58 Comments
ea6927d8@lemmy.ml · 36 pts · 137d
Hello, fellow non-systemd enjoyer.
ColdWater@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 137d
Hello, hopefully there are a dozen of us
procapra@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 137d
Mx linux here! (sysvinit) Just migrated away from systemd due to the drama.
Bananskal@nord.pub · 5 pts · 137d
Drama? You mean the whole age verification stuff?
procapra@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 137d
Yep! I don't want anything to do with it. I don't care if it's an optional component, it'll be optional until it isn't.
comrademiao@piefed.social · 1 pts · 137d
Why
dgriffith@aussie.zone · 31 pts · 137d
Monoculture isn't great.
Having and maintaining other options is good for if/when things go bad.
semperverus@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 137d
Which they did.
comrademiao@piefed.social · 1 pts · 137d
The age verification or something else?
janakali@lemmy.4d2.org · 18 pts · 137d
That's pretty clean for KDE. Here's my Void system.
But I've switched in January, before all this drama even started.
ColdWater@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 137d
Thank you, I use a combination of "KDE rounded corners" "Klassy" and "Darkly", both do not use the slow aurorae theme engine thingy but written in native C++ so it's pretty fast, I haven't tried Void yet because Void scare me
thingsiplay@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 136d
I love Gruvbox. My favorite color scheme. If its not, its probably derived version of Gruvbox. My current one is different, simply because I wanted to have a different scheme after years of same.
pineapple@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 137d
Artix has gotton a real upsurge recently. At least it has on lemmy.
ada@piefed.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 137d
It's most likely where I'll be hopping if unavoidable age gating comes to systemd
AkatsukiLevi@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 137d
I only switched to Artix cuz I like OpenRC
ada@piefed.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 137d
I like not using government and mega-corporation mandated systems designed for privacy invasion and control of what people can access.
AkatsukiLevi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 137d
Also a nice thing, my reasoning is just that I like a bunch of small bash scripts I can look inside and go "oh, so that's why it broke"
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 137d
Gating would be up to every application, systemd just provides an interface/standard location for them to query
ada@piefed.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 137d
I could care less about apps, because I can just avoid them. My concern is the OS level stuff, and currently, all of the legislation is around requirements that the OS itself capture birthdate data.
The moment that becomes mandatory at the OS level, is the moment I drop whatever it is that is forcing that issue. Systemd was the first to pre-emptively comply with facilitating the change at scale, so chances are, they will keep doing the same going forward.
girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 137d
Just one more crack in the levee against computer privacy. This is always how it starts.
No one asked anyone to make that change but it was done regardless. The laws created in those states were (from my understanding) implemented defensively in a political sense due to how federal laws were being considered but weren't actively requested to be enforced technologically.
Those that don't see this change as a step in a regressive trend but are in a position to make changes are usually the ones that lead us further down the path, intentionally or not.
juipeltje@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 137d
You have become systemd-free
tomatoely@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 137d
Isnt elogind part of systemd?
Coki91@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 137d
Yeah it is but systemd is a suite of apps (see, a collective) and elogind is a standalone, the claim is still true
protogen420@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 137d
i could be wrong here but didnt elogind need to be patched to work with other inits?
juipeltje@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 137d
I don't think elogind hooks into other inits directly, but it it is a fork of the logind part of systemd that has been altered so that it can work without systemd, if that's what you mean.
nyan@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 137d
If using OpenRC is all it tales to be on the dark side, then I've been there since before it was cool.
okcomputer@piefed.world · 7 pts · 137d
How do I make my computer like this, this is cool and I don’t know what Linux is.
ColdWater@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 137d
It's a heavily customized KDE Desktop Environment
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 137d
If you've never installed Linux before, I would start with something user-friendly, like Kubuntu or Bazzite. Both come with KDE as their main Desktop Environment ("DE"), so you could do what OP did looks-wise.
If you're a technical user, and don't hate having to sometimes do things manually, try Garuda Linux - it's Arch-based, but catered very towards Linux newbies and does a lot of hand-holding. I use it and I enjoy it very much.
To specifically do what OP did with his DE - KDE comes with the concept of Panels and Widgets. The top bar you see in the screenshot is a Panel. On it, there are (from right to left) the System Tray widget, a Spacer widget, a Digital Clock widget with customised display format (something you can do in the settings of the widget), another Spacer, an Icons-Only Task Manager widget (displays active applications and lets you pin applications - like the Taskbar in Windows or Dock in macOS), and finally the Application Launcher widget (the Start menu equivalent). Everything is pretty heavily customised (presumably with Panel Colorizer? Not sure), so that - out of the box - even with this exact setup copied, yours would look slightly different.
okcomputer@piefed.world · 2 pts · 136d
Thank you so much!!!
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 136d
Enjoy the ride! :)
Oh! You might find this useful. It's a list of various setting changes/fixes I made after switching and encountering various issues, or annoyances. Some of these were under Kubuntu, most are under Garuda, but I don't think anything in there is distro-specific, so it should work on both Debian-based and Arch-based.
comrademiao@piefed.social · 1 pts · 137d
It looks like Arch Linux with some ricing done. So first install Arch and customize from there.
Bananskal@nord.pub · 5 pts · 137d
It's Artix. It says it clearly in the image.
comrademiao@piefed.social · -6 pts · 137d
Yes. Which is an Arch distro.
Bananskal@nord.pub · 4 pts · 137d
It's based on Arch, but it is not Arch Linux. Let's be specific.
Holytimes@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 136d
It's part of the arch family. It's the cool uncle who gives the kids playboy mags and weed when their parents aren't looking. Obviously.
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 137d
[citation needed]
Levi@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 137d
I don't know what you did but I like that UI.
webkitten@piefed.social · 4 pts · 136d
thatsnomayo@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 137d
More &more people are saying it
affenlehrer@feddit.org · 3 pts · 137d
I have pretty much the same hardware. It's an older Lenovo Legion.
Aceofspades@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 137d
I ran Artix for a few days but ran into audio server issues. The issue was that there wasn't an audio server installed so I had not sounds at all. I managed to get everything working after some trial and error. As expected, most of the online help is written with systemd in mind. A little while later I installed another application which installed alsa as a dependency which broke my audio again. I went back to EndeavourOS after that.
ColdWater@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 137d
What audio server did you use? I use pipewire, I only need to install *-openrc equivalent packages on top of base pipewire packages and enable it with OpenRC for it to work
Blujean@mas.to · 0 pts · 137d
@ColdWater @Aceofspades I'm going to have to try it, it's arch based anyways ;) thanks for the tips!
ColdWater@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 137d
No problems, if you have any issues you can ask me in this thread
AkatsukiLevi@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 137d
$ sudo pacman -S pipewire pipewire-openrc wireplumber wireplumber-openrc pipewire-pulseaudio
Then you use:
$ rc-service --user pipewire start
$ rc-service --user wireplumber start
$ rc-update --user add pipewire
$ rc-update --user add wireplumber
neclimdul@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 137d
Welcome!
DefinitelyNotBirds@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 137d
Going to the dark side stings after years of perfecting my dotfiles. That customization muscle memory does not transfer over. How are you handling the loss of environment control?
ColdWater@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 137d
I have a separate /home partition, So I don't have to redo any customization, honestly it's just init systems I don't loss anything
PHLAK@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 137d
Can you share your fastfetch config?
Blujean@mas.to · 1 pts · 137d
@ColdWater not familiar with those messages. Not using systemd or something?
ColdWater@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 137d
It's OpenRC, I wanna learn different init systems
disorderly@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 137d
Does it support unit dependencies? That's pretty much the only reason I use systemd outside of work. Edit: ah yeah it sure does. I know what I'm playing with next weekend.
Blujean@mas.to · 0 pts · 137d
@ColdWater shit you make me wanna to rip out systemd now! Which docs did you use?
ColdWater@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 137d
It's not that hard to use, you only need to learn a few basics OpenRC command (how to enable/disable services stop/start services and service status), as for docs I haven't read any yet
Blujean@mas.to · 0 pts · 137d
@ColdWater does arch let you choose rc in the install? Or did you just remove it sysd and install orc?
ColdWater@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 137d
Arch use systemd and it do not let you choose init systems, you probably can replace it but from what I've read online it can causes a lot of issues
thingsiplay@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 136d
You must be stopped!
Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 137d
Neat