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'She Got Ripped Away From Me': ICE Raids Military Base, Cages Wife of Newlywed Soldier Preparing to Deploy
https://www.commondreams.org/news/military-wife-arrested-ice
46 Comments
HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works · 105 pts · 147d
Jfc. :(
kmartburrito@lemmy.world · 85 pts · 147d
Chozo@fedia.io · 52 pts · 147d
Go on, soldier. Go deploy, and fight for more of this.
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 147d
That blue cord on his shoulder should mean this facility gets the full experience of infantry training, barrel first.
Fuck this and FUCK ICE
Typotyper@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 147d
What does the blue cord mean
WindyRebel@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 147d
I looked it up and it just means they are infantry.
I’m thinking the poster is insinuating they will shoot up the facility?
FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 147d
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world · 39 pts · 147d
Soulg@ani.social · 11 pts · 147d
I assume they joined during Biden if he's new now
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 147d
JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 147d
You can’t just up and leave the military any time you’d like. You have to have a significant mental breakdown and end up in a psych ward to get out easily.
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 147d
JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 147d
I don’t think you realize what I’m saying. You have to literally attempt suicide in order to get out of the military without waiting out your contract or removing yourself from society.
Like, they need to be able to visibly see that you have attempted to kill yourself, and even then you have to convince them that it was real.
Would you cut open your arm right now to prove a point?
mech@feddit.org · 4 pts · 147d
You can simply refuse to deploy.
No need to mutilate yourself or attempt suicide.
Just say "No, I won't go".
You'll get a letter telling you where to meet your unit. Don't go there.
Or if you're already with your unit, don't get on the plane.
Maybe you'll spend a little bit of time in a jail cell, but even that is exceedingly rare.
Most likely, you'll just be dishonorably discharged to get you and your opinions away from the other soldiers as quickly as possible. You will then have to find employment with someone who doesn't care about that.
JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 147d
I literally did that. I told them I wouldn’t go to Japan. They confined me to my ship until I attempted suicide.
You are not all-knowing.
GreenBeanMachine@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 147d
JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 147d
I have heard of resistance. I resisted.
I was in the military, I refused to go to my deployment. They confined me to my ship until I attempted suicide.
You’re an asshole, and you don’t know as much as you think
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 146d
Or you could just go AWOL and accept the consequences?
0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -4 pts · 147d
It's honestly been refreshing yankistanis losing their collective minds and threatening to leave fediverse, when faced with a different opinion that isn't stroking their predisposition and ego.
The fragility of so called stewards of "freedom of speech", when they're out of the platforms catering to their faux supremacy.
glimse@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 147d
I have yet to see anything like that...Are these Americans threatening to leave the fediverse in the room with us now?
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 146d
That's a massive generalization. Yes, america is full of ignorant assholes. That doesn't mean every american is an ignorant asshole.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 146d
Or get pregnant, if that's a possibility for you...
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 146d
This is why they're really scared of mpreg
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 146d
There is no true equality in the world until men can get pregnant
JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 146d
Getting pregnant will not get you out of the American military, just out of a deployment
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 146d
False. When an active duty service member gets pregnant, she is given an option to receive a medical discharge.
JustAnotherKay@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 146d
Interesting. I knew so many pregnant sailors that I just assumed the option wasn’t given, never applied to me. Now I know
Professorozone@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 147d
Not anytime no, but I believe this was his third tour of duty. Depends on the timing.
MehBlah@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 147d
Have things changed. I remember when you signed up for a four year enlistment.
mic_check_one_two@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 147d
It was never actually four years. The active duty contract is typically two to six years of active service, and then another four years of reserve afterwards. Basically, even after your active duty time is up, they can still call you back in (or just refuse to let you leave in the first place) for another four years.
Waraugh@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 147d
It’s, or at least was, an eight year commitment with the typical active cycle 4 years but some would do 2 active 6 inactive or 6 active, 2 inactive. Education or additional active years (6/2) could bump up starting rank.
AceFuzzLord@lemmy.zip · 34 pts · 147d
As crazy as it sounds, I say let ICE come in and constantly harass the military. Let them take it far enough that the military is willing to shoot any ICE members they see. Hell, have ICE piss them off enough to stage a coup. Ain't no amount of police would be able to stop the military storming the white house.
inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 147d
Because most military coups have been such a rousing success for regaining Democracy.
TheBlackLounge@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 147d
On the other hand, most democracies come from military coups. All the recent coups leading to authoritarianism come from the CIA or Kremlin or Islamism. After the cold war more coups led to democracy afain. If the US has an internal coup now it'll be more likely one of those, I'd think.
gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 146d
Well, look at Vichy France and their eventual liberation from Nazi Germany and De Gaulle and the ultimate transition to the 5th republic. Not a “military coup” per se, but still a period in France where strong military-oriented leadership
Sure, it’s not often that military leadership ends up peacefully transitioning to civilian leadership… but given how our civilian leadership is the problem right now, I’m willing to give it a shot, because it could hardly be less sane that the idiocy that’s happening now. There exists some subset of career military officers and leadership to whom honor and loyalty and integrity actually matter; the same cannot be said for anyone in the regime currently, since their North Star is making a buck and “winning”.
lama@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 146d
I agree I don't want the coup but maybe if ICE pisses off the military enough, they won't coup a Democrat if they ever get voted back in
Mrkawfee@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 147d
Get in the box for Israel. No wife for you.
Dyskolos@lemmy.zip · 25 pts · 147d
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 147d
Wait until a bunch of pissed-off soldiers object to ICE kidnapping their loved ones.
NannerBanner@literature.cafe · 14 pts · 146d
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BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 10 pts · 147d
Thank you for your sacrifice.
inb4_FoundTheVegan@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 146d
What a dangerous woman! Well I certainly feel safer.
itisileclerk@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 146d
He got what he deserved. Literally he volunteered to be part of the US war crimes and now he's complaining. Instant Karma!
Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 146d
I wish I could have been a fly on the wall when he was in the voting booth, assuming he voted.