TIL, American who live in Mississippi, Wyoming, Arkansas, and Alabama spend the highest portion of their income on gasoline. Californians, despite high taxes, are closer to the national average.

https://financebuzz.com/monthly-income-spent-on-gas

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IWW4@lemmy.zip · 65 pts · 150d (25 replies)

I assume that is because of the poverty levels in Mississippi, Arkansas and Alabama.

Not sure what to say about Wyoming. I wonder if Indian Reservations squew the numbers for Wyoming.

JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 46 pts · 150d (5 replies)

Wyoming resident here. The distances are vast, the altitude is high and depending where you are the inclines don't mess around.

IWW4@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 150d

Ahh, so your car just sucks down a lot of gas!

OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 150d (2 replies)

Ah, the smell of cooking brake pads on a long downhill trek!

tal@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 150d (1 reply)

Can use engine braking.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_braking

Gasoline engines

The term "engine braking" refers to the braking effect that occurs in gasoline engines when the accelerator pedal is released. This causes fuel injection to cease and the throttle valve to close almost completely, greatly restricting forced airflow from, for example, a turbocharger. The restriction causes a strong manifold vacuum which the cylinders have to work against, sapping much of the potential energy out of the system over time and producing the majority of the engine-braking effect.[1] This vacuum manifold effect can often be amplified by a down-shift, which induces a faster spinning drivetrain to engage with the engine.

Engine braking is a viable method of controlling the speed at which a vehicle travels downhill. By shifting to a lower gear in a manual transmission, or applying "low" mode on an automatic transmission, engine braking reduces the need to repeatedly apply the foot brake, lowering the risk of the brakes overheating.[2]

Mac@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 150d

Modern cars don't seem to provide much braking from the engine, in my experience. Still some, though.

ayyy@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 150d

Also because everyone “needs” an F-950.

Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 150d (1 reply)

Lower income, more driving, less fuel efficient cars, more sprawl, worse public transit.

titanicx@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 150d

Most of the towns are tiny. The need for public transport is near 0. I drive it regularly and the amount of towns under 50 population is crazy.

dogslayeggs@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 150d

Yes, but that is combined with driving longer distances for commutes and other crap.

fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 150d

squew

I've never seen it spelled that way before. Is that a regional thing, or just a typo?

iamthetot@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 150d

It's "skew", fyi.

ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 150d

Not the poverty levels, the V8 pick up levels.

MissJinx@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 150d (1 reply)

maybe their cousins live farther away

IWW4@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 150d

LOL!!!

OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 150d (2 replies)

The jobs in Mississippi don't pay worth a damn. It doesn't help that employers secretly hate their employees for costing them money. If they could pay you less than minimum wage, they would.

It's the same for white collar and blue collar workers. Maximum exploitation in order to reach quarterly earnings goals.

ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 150d (1 reply)

Mississippi and Alabama have petro-chemical industries (and defence) that pay handsomely. They have some of the highest wage levels in the Union.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 150d

probably because those companies cannot survive in states with more regulations, and i doubt the country bumpkin is getting hired at these jobs.

fruitycoder@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 150d

*skew

And yeah that does make a lot of sense. For Wyoming honestly it's also just a massively spread out state compared to nearly anywhere else

Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 150d

Somewhat surprisingly, there's no Q in skew. Maybe it's just that Wyoming is so empty

SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 150d (5 replies)

*squaw

AnalogHole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 150d (4 replies)

*racist douchebag

BlackVenom@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 150d

Too easily offended and ready to attack you are

Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 150d (2 replies)

Or old ski enthusiast.

RipLemmDotEE@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 150d (1 reply)

Sqaw Valley recently rebranded to Palisades Tahoe.

Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 150d

Exactly. Hence the “old.”

dogslayeggs@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 150d (4 replies)

Let's see... this shows the ratio of money spent on gas to your income levels. That means a higher ratio is more painful when gas prices spike and less painful with a lower ratio.

9 of the top 10 states for highest/worst ratio are Republican Trumpland. 9 out of the top 10 states for lowest/best ratio are Democrat majority states (with Pennsylvania being swing).

Republicans are really playing some 4D chess by allowing Trump to start a war nobody wants that causes huge gas price spikes when it hurts their base the most... months before an election where their jobs are on the line.

ugh@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 150d (1 reply)

The spikes in gas prices and health insurance premiums are doing more than any presidential debates have done in the past decade. Consequences are needed to get the attention of conservatives and moderates. Unfortunately, most MAGA supports are far too brainwashed.

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 150d

apparently the subsidies for the preniums were for the aca during covid, which gave more coverage, after it was removed the insurance almost immediately Spiked the coverages back to way above pre-2019.

innermachine@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 150d

Don't worry, their all spouting off about how "the president doesn't control gas prices". Remember when gas went up under Biden and all the magats said it's his fault? Now their throwing back about "well the president didn't control gas prices then but now he does when it's trump?" Fuck I kind of wish I was half that stupid maybe I wouldn't be so pissed off right now

Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 150d

if its to keep epstein out the news, which the GOP and many CONSERVATIVES, politicians are in, there are all for it.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 150d (2 replies)

californians, despite high state income taxes, have lower other taxes. On net they pay less in tax than texans, who have no state income tax. check out ITEP.org's Who Pays report every year. they run a report that totals the entire tax regime (income, sales, property, fuel, the whole shebang) in a state, including federal taxes, runs a sample family's books at various income levels, sees what their taxes (all of them) would be, then makes a big report for the entire country.

In Texas, if you are poor you pay more of your income toward taxes than the rich. That's because the graduated income tax rate most states have corrects for the regressive tax structures in just about every other tax. Texas has no income tax. You see the same thing in Washington State. In California, the rich and the poor pay about the same percentage of their income toward tax, and it is lower than Texas at every income level. Funny that.

tal@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 150d (1 reply)

California also treats capital gains at the (higher) rate of regular income, which is somewhat unusual, whereas Texas has no state-level capital gains tax, which is also somewhat unusual.

HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 150d

capital gains taxes are generally rolled into income taxes, so that's why texas has none

JohnnyEnzyme@piefed.social · 15 pts · 150d (1 reply)

Mississippi, Wyoming, Arkansas, and Alabama

So once again, these complete dumbasses voted against their own interests with a consistency, and somehow are NOW unhappy about all that..?

radix@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 150d

Remember when gas prices spiked after Russia invaded Ukraine? Biden's fault. But when Trump invades Iran and gas prices spike? Also Biden's fault!

/s

tal@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 150d (4 replies)
  • California is relatively-wealthy.

  • I would say pretty confidently, without digging up figures, that Californians have a higher rate of using fuel-efficient vehicles. I know that they have the highest rate of BEV usage in the US. A lot of the fuel-inefficient vehicles are (large) pickup trucks, and California has a relatively low share of pickup truck ownership, whereas Wyoming has the highest.

ThomasWilliams@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 150d (3 replies)

California and New York are the poorest states based on median wage...

CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 150d

Is that just a lie?

For 2023:

California - $96k

Mississippi - $54k

_g_be@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 150d

Both can be true.

The data can say whatever you want if you torture it enough

okamiueru@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 149d

Is that what the LLM told you? I would like to know. Genuinely curious. Did you make it up on the spot? Is it motivated by malice, or stupidity? What's your deal?

Per capita household income:

  • CA is 5th
  • NY is 7th

Ref: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_income

paraphrand@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 150d

They should have the highest bike usage and best bike infrastructure in the US, then. 😔

birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 142d

Correction: thanks to lower taxes on the average Joe, and higher taxes on the wealthiest...