Apparently she is in a legal battle against Michael Wolff who claimed that Epstein was the one who originally introduced Melania and Trump to each other
in my estimation it's more than "knows" just like Ghislane more than "knew." Given 47's relationship to Vince McMahon, we know that more than one of his best friends was running a sex trafficking ring. given that it seems an awful lot like Epstein's relationship to trump was more a B2B relationship than a business to client/customer relationship
She's been right there when they picked out girls, it's all in the files. I regret reading that part because it haunts me, it was described vividly. Imma take it down a few notches but still gonna spoiler tag and warn that it's graphic:
::: spoiler spoiler
They basically had 10-13 yo girls put in line, then went to each and put their fingers inside them to see if they were good (whatever that means), then Trump, Epstien etc. took them to private rooms to do worse things. The first part being with Melina, their own kids and other people right there.
:::
The files are everything they have on Epstein, and that includes anonymous accusations. Without corroborating evidence, there's nothing that tells us how accurate this account is or if it even happened at all.
She could be doing it to hurt her idiot husband. Her motivations don't have to be good. People (inadvertantly) do good things for bad reasons all the time.
And picture this: she had a whole camera/lighting/set/production crew to capture this moment to broadcast absolute gibberish to the world. WTF is even happening?
Oddly precise wording. She could have chosen more blanket language and she didnt. She might just as well have held a press conference and admitted she is guilty.
Up until today I’d just assumed without thinking about it that she wasn’t involved in any of the scummier Epstein dealings, but she’s just done a good job of making me question that.
I know I've seen lots of pictures of the Trumps with Epstein and Maxwell, and I know I've seen emails between Melania and others indicating that they were at least friends who hung out.
What I haven't seen is evidence that Melania was party to the pedo stuff. I assume she WAS party to it, because her own life story screams "sex trafficked, but at a higher class of trafficking," but i would like to understand KNOWN FACTS about her role in this. Is there a good article somewhere about her part here?
I ask because there is a scenario where her husband is good/close friends with Epstein, and Melania is playing the role of the Important Man's Wife by making insincere, surface friendships with the friends' wives.
Kind of like mob wives might clique up, even if they don't actually like each other or enjoy the company, if that makes sense.
You could've ended that question with the word "kids", and I kind of wonder why you didn't. The answer is "Of course not, because nobody has a time machine".
Open a god damn history book, holy shit dude. We probably have like 3, maybe 5 presidents total who weren't pedophiles... absolute best case scenario. You're whitewashing history just like maga do.
Okay so it was intended to be snarky sarcasm more than whitewashing anything, but it's hard to get that across without spelling out my every intention.
The instant snap judgements thrown by everyone and assumptions about viewpointints and intentions on the internet are exhausting.
Where did I make any assumptions about your viewpoints or intentions? Judgement, sure I "judged" the comment to be factually incorrect and potentially misleading for others reading it...which is objectively true so idk what you're getting at there.
You said I am whitewashing history like maga does. It is right in your post. That expresses an assumption of an intent to do so. As I said, this was an offhanded stupid comment that really wasn't intended to spark any kind of stupid debate. I am far from supporting any of the current regime and far from trying to paint some PragerU vision of history, but it sure seems like you assumed I was.
You know, trump might be cooking effectively here.
If there's a deep fake release of epstein's being alive, then trump could start global manhunt.Akin to tracking down osama bin laden, and I kinda feel like we'd all be down with catching epstein.
And even if we catch and kill em, we can still do a weekend at bernie's kind of thing.
i was thinking of the ISAIP one, how frank said he wants the team to make a song about not diddling kids. "nothing more suspicious about diddling kids then making a song about diddling kids", or in her case a CONFERENCE.
Epstein is the trafficker, but he used other prostitutes to get young girls over into his island.
Melania Knavs, defined previously was a "model", was pimped to Epstein by Paolo Zampalli, a wealthy Italian who ran the famous Roman bunga-bunga sex parties in the 90s. By calling her a "model", she got her green card. Knavs then helped traffic children to Epstein, and in all that she married a John who was Donald Trump.
The person who knew all this was Melania Trump's friend, Amanda Ungaro, who Zampalli had deported by ICE to keep quiet.
But Ungaro is now talking to the world press about how FLOTUS was a pimp.
my mind immediately jumps to how bill clinton just said "i did not have sexual relations with that woman", which was obviously a bold-faced like, so.. why whouldn't she just lie??
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Lenny@lemmy.zip · 143 pts · 167d
I’ve never been legally accused of eating an entire sleeve of Oreos at 3 in the morning last night.
deacon@lemmy.world · 34 pts · 167d
J'Accuse...!
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 8 pts · 166d
Is that legal ?
deacon@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 166d
Oh my no. It’s mandatory.
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 162d
recentSlinky@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 167d
So brave :')
peteypete420@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 167d
Thin mints.... well ive never denied it.
ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 166d
You think I hate the Girl Scouts for no reason? No reason at all?
applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 166d
Wow only one sleeve? I can't keep oreos around because I'll eat a whole family size container in one sitting.
JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 166d
Don't worry, shrinkflation can somewhat absolve your gluttony because today's "family size" oreos are the same size as normal packages used to be.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 166d
"Not accused by a local law enforcement official relating specifically to Epsteins crimes, no"
chemical_cutthroat@lemmy.world · 101 pts · 167d
Neither have I, lady, but you don't hear me holding press conferences about it.
Klox@lemmy.world · 82 pts · 167d
I'm thinking someone should legally accuse her.
Draegur@piefed.social · 77 pts · 167d
Have never been legally accused or convicted SO FAR...!
chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 56 pts · 167d
"No member of my immediate faimily has never been formally accused^1 of the sex crimes my husband has been covering up."
^1 statement does not include civil judgments holding my husband liable for sexual assault
nickiwest@lemmy.world · 43 pts · 167d
I wonder what she knows that hasn't been made public yet. She's clearly trying to get out in front of something.
Microw@piefed.zip · 28 pts · 167d
Apparently she is in a legal battle against Michael Wolff who claimed that Epstein was the one who originally introduced Melania and Trump to each other
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 166d
shes knee deep in the epstein files.
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 166d
in my estimation it's more than "knows" just like Ghislane more than "knew." Given 47's relationship to Vince McMahon, we know that more than one of his best friends was running a sex trafficking ring. given that it seems an awful lot like Epstein's relationship to trump was more a B2B relationship than a business to client/customer relationship
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 166d
Google Paolo Zampalli and Amanda Ungaro, the world press is running with this story.
M137@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 166d
She's been right there when they picked out girls, it's all in the files. I regret reading that part because it haunts me, it was described vividly. Imma take it down a few notches but still gonna spoiler tag and warn that it's graphic:
::: spoiler spoiler They basically had 10-13 yo girls put in line, then went to each and put their fingers inside them to see if they were good (whatever that means), then Trump, Epstien etc. took them to private rooms to do worse things. The first part being with Melina, their own kids and other people right there. :::
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 165d
The files are everything they have on Epstein, and that includes anonymous accusations. Without corroborating evidence, there's nothing that tells us how accurate this account is or if it even happened at all.
Etterra@discuss.online · 41 pts · 167d
We have a strange suspicion that she was secretly trying to remind everybody that the Epstein Files are still a problem.
TachyonTele@piefed.social · 23 pts · 167d
That would mean she's not a scumbag.
But she is one.
DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 167d
Not it doesn't. It means she wants her disgusting anchor hubby to stroke out so she can fade into obscurity with billions of stolen dollars.
Etterra@discuss.online · 16 pts · 167d
She could be doing it to hurt her idiot husband. Her motivations don't have to be good. People (inadvertantly) do good things for bad reasons all the time.
TachyonTele@piefed.social · 4 pts · 166d
Nah she's a scumbag. They married right for each other.
M137@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 166d
Scumbags can still dislike each other, and it's well known and obvious she hates him (witch what little she's able to feel).
0x0@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 167d
No she could definitely still be a scumbag
forrgott@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 167d
Or Bondi has dirt
JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 166d
And picture this: she had a whole camera/lighting/set/production crew to capture this moment to broadcast absolute gibberish to the world. WTF is even happening?
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 166d
maybe she is secretively trying to sabotage trump, and get a divorce where she gets more money from it.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 166d
Ah, so they're trying to liquidate the country to make dividing the assets easier for the divorce.
I wonder who I'll have to go live with after.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 166d
Oddly precise wording. She could have chosen more blanket language and she didnt. She might just as well have held a press conference and admitted she is guilty.
BygoneNeutrino@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 166d
skisnow@lemmy.ca · 30 pts · 166d
Up until today I’d just assumed without thinking about it that she wasn’t involved in any of the scummier Epstein dealings, but she’s just done a good job of making me question that.
M137@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 166d
She's in the files and theres both proof and unproven things said that puts her right in the deep end with them all, she's just as bad as them.
ToiletFlushShowerScream@piefed.world · 27 pts · 167d
Did all of the competent PR people quit? Or were they fired for not getting the required Mar A Lago face surgery?
rbn@sopuli.xyz · 14 pts · 167d
I assume that Trump never paid their bills, as he did with his laywers.
Gathorall@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 166d
Is that a typo or a pun about laywers?
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 166d
They were probably fired becuse the Trumps thought they can do a better job. Just like Musks.
We have a saying here, "Hochmut kommt vor dem Fall" or the bible:
beejboytyson@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 167d
Nah the bad guys just don't care anymore.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 167d
Also one of them was bit by a snapping turtle
kreskin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 166d
ah yes, the bloated face beaten to a pulp under thick makeup look. Classic beauty standard in many conservative countries.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 24 pts · 166d
first ESCORT assigned by putin to be specific
BillCheddar@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 167d
I know I've seen lots of pictures of the Trumps with Epstein and Maxwell, and I know I've seen emails between Melania and others indicating that they were at least friends who hung out.
What I haven't seen is evidence that Melania was party to the pedo stuff. I assume she WAS party to it, because her own life story screams "sex trafficked, but at a higher class of trafficking," but i would like to understand KNOWN FACTS about her role in this. Is there a good article somewhere about her part here?
I ask because there is a scenario where her husband is good/close friends with Epstein, and Melania is playing the role of the Important Man's Wife by making insincere, surface friendships with the friends' wives.
Kind of like mob wives might clique up, even if they don't actually like each other or enjoy the company, if that makes sense.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 166d
Melania is a piece of shit, fuck her.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 166d
She's even worse than Epstein, she lured girls over. But lucky for her, she's in the USA where people like this are protected.
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 167d
starman2112@sh.itjust.works · 16 pts · 167d
I've never been legally accused or convicted of speeding at or above 10 mph over the posted speed limit in the state of Kansas
dansemacabreingalone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 167d
She either hates her dipshit husband or is the srcond dumbest pedophile on the planet.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 166d
she definitely does hate him, only staying with him because he has BILLIONS.
dansemacabreingalone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 166d
Valid. No word yet on which thing motivated this.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 166d
she was always a prostitute, just doing her job.
Oyml77@lemmy.today · 15 pts · 166d
I'll bet this is something the founding fathers never saw coming, a thing 45 previous first ladies have never gone before the country to say.
m3t00@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 166d
no-one could have. rip founders
eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 166d
Y'all clearly have NO IDEA how nasty the founding fathers were. Ben Franklin, TJ, and Madison in particular.
m3t00@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 166d
their sins live on
Oyml77@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 166d
Oh, I know what assholes these guys were. Still, did they fuck kids with Trump and Epstein?
fartemoji@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 166d
No, but they owned and fucked child slaves. They would have been right there with Trump and Epstein given the chance.
Oyml77@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 166d
Yeah, you aren't wrong.
zarkanian@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 165d
You could've ended that question with the word "kids", and I kind of wonder why you didn't. The answer is "Of course not, because nobody has a time machine".
Oyml77@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 165d
Mostly because I could just imagine them fucking slave kids....
DillDough@lemmy.zip · -1 pts · 165d
Open a god damn history book, holy shit dude. We probably have like 3, maybe 5 presidents total who weren't pedophiles... absolute best case scenario. You're whitewashing history just like maga do.
Oyml77@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 165d
Okay so it was intended to be snarky sarcasm more than whitewashing anything, but it's hard to get that across without spelling out my every intention.
The instant snap judgements thrown by everyone and assumptions about viewpointints and intentions on the internet are exhausting.
DillDough@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 165d
Where did I make any assumptions about your viewpoints or intentions? Judgement, sure I "judged" the comment to be factually incorrect and potentially misleading for others reading it...which is objectively true so idk what you're getting at there.
Oyml77@lemmy.today · 0 pts · 165d
You said I am whitewashing history like maga does. It is right in your post. That expresses an assumption of an intent to do so. As I said, this was an offhanded stupid comment that really wasn't intended to spark any kind of stupid debate. I am far from supporting any of the current regime and far from trying to paint some PragerU vision of history, but it sure seems like you assumed I was.
I hope you have a great rest of your day.
pyre@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 167d
she said convinced, btw, not convicted.
convinced of a crime.
Hupf@feddit.org · 2 pts · 166d
Well, she's...
JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 166d
So basically she was speaking gibberish that is best ignored, just like we can ignore everything her husband says.
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 14 pts · 166d
First, epstein island to distract from the thing.
Second war to distract from epstein island.
Third we're back to epstein island again.
Fourth, coliseum gladiator fight between nepotism babies on Crack (hunter Biden vs trump sons).
Lolz.
Taleya@aussie.zone · 13 pts · 166d
$50 on Hunter, those trump babies look like you could snap 'em over your knee
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 166d
Hunters done a lot of drugs in his life...his cardiovascular health cant be that strong.
But God knows what drugs the Trump kids have done.
Taleya@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 166d
The trumplings have also spent a soft fat life insulated from anything harder than slapping a maid. Hunter's absolutely had his earrings ripped out
kreskin@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 166d
Blood plasma transfusions from the strongest stock of young healthy peasants does wonders, if you have the means.
The super rich are injecting blood from teenagers to gain ‘immortality’ https://www.bbc.com/bbcthree/article/347828f8-6e7f-4a9b-92ab-95f637a9dc2e
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 165d
What now?They're too good even to f*** the kids?
BillCheddar@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 166d
No one has a softer jaw than the children of wealthy people.
m3t00@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 166d
everything leads there. bury them there.
accused, yet
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 165d
You know, trump might be cooking effectively here.
If there's a deep fake release of epstein's being alive, then trump could start global manhunt.Akin to tracking down osama bin laden, and I kinda feel like we'd all be down with catching epstein.
And even if we catch and kill em, we can still do a weekend at bernie's kind of thing.
hateisreality@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 167d
.....So far
Alwaysnownevernotme@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 167d
WE DRAW THE LINE AT EMBEZZLING FROM CHILDRENS CANCER CHARITIES!
Tuxman@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 166d
She forgot « yet » at the end there
Blackmist@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 166d
We need to write a sawng about how we don't diddle kids.
Shindo66@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 166d
Frank, you look horrific
cenariodantesco@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 167d
I've been thinking about this meme the whole day, but I couldn't bring myself to do it.... i shouldn't,. nah I couldn't ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 165d
i was thinking of the ISAIP one, how frank said he wants the team to make a song about not diddling kids. "nothing more suspicious about diddling kids then making a song about diddling kids", or in her case a CONFERENCE.
betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 166d
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 34 pts · 166d
Epstein is the trafficker, but he used other prostitutes to get young girls over into his island. Melania Knavs, defined previously was a "model", was pimped to Epstein by Paolo Zampalli, a wealthy Italian who ran the famous Roman bunga-bunga sex parties in the 90s. By calling her a "model", she got her green card. Knavs then helped traffic children to Epstein, and in all that she married a John who was Donald Trump.
The person who knew all this was Melania Trump's friend, Amanda Ungaro, who Zampalli had deported by ICE to keep quiet.
But Ungaro is now talking to the world press about how FLOTUS was a pimp.
Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 166d
Thanks for the summary!
Simulation6@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 165d
Kind of falls apart at ‘had deported to keep quiet’.
ramenshaman@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 166d
The paper she was reading from (which I strongly suspect was written by someone else) said "convicted", but she said "convinced".
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 165d
my mind immediately jumps to how bill clinton just said "i did not have sexual relations with that woman", which was obviously a bold-faced like, so.. why whouldn't she just lie??
Saprophyte@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 166d
I finally know where I have heard that accent before.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 167d
Netanyahu: "Israel did not murder Charlie Kirk" national address in English.
anugeshtu@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 167d
She's not a gold digger, she's a gold thrower!
melfie@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 166d
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 166d
"Donalds? I win Best Movie Star, yes? Or else you bomb the Academy!"
minorkeys@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 167d
But....you've never not committed a crime in connection with them...?
m3t00@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 166d
madam in cheif
MithranArkanere@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 165d
Every day, the adage "every accusation is a confession or declaration of intentions" keeps being proven more and more true.
Entertainmeonly@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 166d
Just going to leave this here.
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 165d
How ill do we think he is - weeks or months?