cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/36435067
An usually wide adoption of rooftop solar in Aleppo, Syria.
An unusually wide adoption of rooftop solar in Aleppo, Syria.
cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/36435067
An usually wide adoption of rooftop solar in Aleppo, Syria.
70 Comments
obvs@lemmy.world · 100 pts · 130d
The United States is SOOOOO far behind.
slippyferret@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 65 pts · 130d
American cities should have looked like this 20+ years ago.
TheMadCodger@piefed.social · 61 pts · 130d
More than that. Carter put solar panels on the White House. Regan took them down. 40+ years of making America worse so the dragons could grow their hordes.
Duamerthrax@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 130d
Real people wouldn't even notice from the streets, but rich fucks would see them from their jets and oppose it.
catbum@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 130d
grue@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 130d
We can't even manage to do the apartment buildings, let alone the solar panels.
Serinus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 129d
Build the mass transit first, then the apartments make sense.
grue@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 129d
It doesn't work that way. Unfortunately, the demand has to exist first in order to get the transit approved; otherwise the car-brains call it "useless" and win. You have to force through the density and make it painful to drive before there's a critical mass of support for it.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 129d
Or... hear me out... and this can only occur in a society capable of critical thinking, so it would never happen in america, but...
How about a phased-implementation in which transit and apartments are built concurrently, according to a plan aiming towards the final result.
If you build the transit first, it needs a giant parking lot. If you build the apartments first, they need giant parking lots. If you build them simultaneously and plan them to finish around the same time, you don't need parking lots.
favoredponcho@lemmy.zip · 36 pts · 130d
normalentrance@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 129d
There's looking at the bright side!
Sunflier@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 129d
Sxan@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 129d
Best Meme of the Decade 🏆️
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 129d
Have I got some good news, then!
MrKoyun@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 129d
Lol this is not a case of Syria being just very environmentally concious and deciding to get far ahead in the solar game. Its a case of not having reliable electricity infrastructure so solar is the only and neccesary option.
Is this ideal? No. Is it good that a lot of people are successfully relying on solar energy? Yes, and developed countries need to catch up.
obvs@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 124d
I think you interpreted my post as praise for apparent Syrian environmentalism, rather than criticism that a country which has experienced so much strife has that, while the United States has nothing like that.
Shameless@lemmy.world · 71 pts · 130d
Does no one remember this place being decimated by the US and Russia?? It's not unusual, its because there is probably a lack of reliable electricity infrastructure
lonesomeCat@lemmy.ml · 25 pts · 129d
I live there. I can confirm, I believe right now it's because our gov cannot pay for it. The price of power has increased by 800% since Jan 2026. Much more than the avg citizen can afford
pastermil@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 129d
Where do you folks source your solar panel from?
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · 8 pts · 129d
China, just like the rest of the world. Solar panels are cheap AF
lonesomeCat@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 129d
China
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 129d
I'd say China and resellers
joostjakob@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 129d
So these are systems that work when the main power is down? Do people have battery packs too?
MashedTech@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 129d
Yes.
Tech Altar video about tech in Syria
joostjakob@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 129d
Cool, thanks for that link!
lonesomeCat@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 129d
Yes. Shit load of battery packs and DC2AC inverters
Almost every house has at least some sort of battery
InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 130d
Yup, they have had a total systems collapse. They are there because they have not choice not due to any forward thinking or some other policy.
Voltarion@piefed.social · -3 pts · 129d
We, the West, wilk be three too. Degrowth wilk happen, the questions is, nie voluntary it will be.
fun_times@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 129d
The US is normally the country that bombs the middle east but in Aleppo it was almost exclusively Russia and the Assad regime that did the bombings. Saudi Arabia (and to a lesser extent Turkey) were the ones who sponsored ISIS. The US for once actually sponsored the relatively good guys in the conflict by backing the AANES ("Rojava").
This is not to say that the US had any moral reasons to choose the AANES. It was strictly geopolitics but even a broken clock is right twice a day.
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 129d
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 129d
Broken clock that never goes right?
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 129d
Why not because of that and because it's a great thing to have?
Why does almost everything here seem to have a need to be absolute?
ptu@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 129d
Same. Nothing in the original post hints that op was unaware of the war.
Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 129d
After I read your comment and the title I might see an angle:
It's a stretch to interprete that considering the war and the need for electricity resulting in the easiest way to get access to independant electricity is solar (because water can't do it and neither can wind).
But depending on the cultural lense it's
A: Duh. Obviously we need solar because the US bombed our grid to dust
or
B: Huh. That sure is a high number of solar panels. My city doesnt have that many panels.
MrKoyun@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 129d
Its a great thing to have, totally. But if this was happening with the primary reason of it being a great thing to have we would be seeing similiar sights in other, developed places too.
bestboyfriendintheworld@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 129d
By the US? Do you mean IS, Assad, and Hezbollah?
Kirp123@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 130d
I wonder if their government is subsidizing them in some way. But also looking at it most of them are on apartment buildings so it may just be that every tennant in the building chips in to a common fund to get them installed so they get lower electricity costs. Pretty smart investment since those panels last for decades and the cost will be covered way before they reach end of life.
MintyFresh@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 130d
I'm sure electric service has been patchy at best given the war ravaged state of things there.
zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 129d
Unless a Bibi or Donnie comes by and drops some bombs. Then thy usually don’t last that long.
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · -26 pts · 130d
ISIS subsidizing solar energy. What a timeline
DeckPacker@piefed.social · 24 pts · 130d
They aren't being governed by ISIS.
Natanael@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 130d
Wrong goddess, that's RA
Telemachus93@slrpnk.net · -12 pts · 130d
Correct, it's the other big islamist group, al-Qaeda.
DeckPacker@piefed.social · 12 pts · 130d
Also wrong.
Either you are misinformed, an idiot or just racist.
If you wanna learn more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_transitional_government
Telemachus93@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 119d
I'm neither. You're the misinformed one here, and the people who downvoted me as well. Go to the link you provided.
Yes, they split several years ago. Insofar I have exaggerated. Are they substantially better in terms of authorianism and religious fundamentalism? I seriously doubt it.
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · -33 pts · 130d
Ah yeah, Wikipedia -- an ultimate source of symbolic truth, which points exactly at al-qaueda if you are not deliberately ignore it, morron
Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 130d
What a nasty stain on the Internet you're making.
starlinguk@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 129d
Ignore the 14 year old troll.
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · -10 pts · 130d
Oh yeah I am
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 130d
Al Qaeda and Isis aren’t the same thing, even acknowledging al-Sharaa was a part of al-Qaeda for several years and Al Nusra is just a spin off of AQ. Al Nusra and Isis have been fighting one another for over a decade.
vivalapivo@lemmy.today · -1 pts · 130d
While this is true, the new government seems to be loyal to people convicted of fighting for isis
joyjoy@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 130d
But where is the powerplant so the USA military can bomb it to attack civilian infrastructure?
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 8 pts · 129d
You don't understand. Now they can bomb both in a single hit
So much saving for US taxpayers
MashedTech@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 129d
There should be a politician in every building too. For triple savings! Bomb the powerplant, civilians and politicians! All in one go!
chocrates@piefed.world · 13 pts · 130d
That makes me so incredibly happy.
MithranArkanere@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 129d
If the whole world did this, all the energy corporations would be ruined.
What are we waiting for?
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 129d
That bastard Godot, probably
CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 128d
What does a free and open source game engine have to do with this?
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 128d
Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 130d
What is Aleppo?
Malfeasant@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 130d
I'll do you one better - why is Aleppo?
DrBob@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 130d
How is Aleppo?
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 129d
When is Aleppo?
Az_1@piefed.social · 2 pts · 129d
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 129d
The Milky Way
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 129d
Ah, Gary Johnson. I had such high hopes for him in 2016...
It was my first presidential election as an eligible voter, and this was before the alt-right co-opted libertarianism. All I knew was that I hated trump, and I was being bombarded with anti-Clinton propaganda so I didn't like her either (but not for the right reasons, like how she's a neoliberal capitalist).
I didn't know enough about Bernie at the time. I didn't know enough about leftism or the world in general to consider myself a progressive yet. I hadn't even entered the cocoon in which I later metamorphosed into a full-blown socialist throughout my mid-twenties.
Gary Johnson... my first vote in a presidential election... sigh...
Those were... simpler times...
Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 129d
We must be close in age as he was my first vote for President as well.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 129d
We are The Last of the Millennials
Grass@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 129d
Man think of all the shit you could have running 24/7 off that and a bunch of car batteries
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 129d
You don't even need to use car batteries (if you're referring to the lead acid batteries used in ICE vehicles).
LiFePO4 and Na+ are both options available as high-capacity power banks. They're not even crazy expensive either, and they're safer and last longer than Li+ and other options.
callyral@pawb.social · 2 pts · 130d
huh, those roofs look kinda weird and all the same- (takes a closer look) oh it's all solar panels that's actually really cool