People claim that more animals are killed in industrial agriculture than the animals that you would be eating instead. Like mice killed by threshers.
The flaw in that argument is that livestock animals are fed by industrial agriculture too, so by eating meat you are also responsible for more animals killed in agriculture than you would be by eating the produce yourself. It takes a lot more agriculture to raise multiple animals for one person to eat than it would to produce the amount of food they would eat otherwise.
I have had multiple people say this exact thing to me both in person and on the internet. This is not a strawman in the slightest, and even a very basic search on social media and blog sites will demonstrate this.
Oh yeah totally a strawman argument, this clearly has never been discussed by every wannabe carnivore influencer, and is never repeated adnauseam in the comments section of virtually any video which even broaches the subject of veganism. And there obviously isn't countless videos online discussing this topic:
The occasional non-vegan who doesn't think well on their own but wants to sound smart. Or the occasional troll / animal ag plant who wants to propagate anti-vegan myths. I've come across the claim about a dozen times online and once IRL.
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drkt@scribe.disroot.org · 25 pts · 139d
who says that?
human@slrpnk.net · 41 pts · 139d
People claim that more animals are killed in industrial agriculture than the animals that you would be eating instead. Like mice killed by threshers.
The flaw in that argument is that livestock animals are fed by industrial agriculture too, so by eating meat you are also responsible for more animals killed in agriculture than you would be by eating the produce yourself. It takes a lot more agriculture to raise multiple animals for one person to eat than it would to produce the amount of food they would eat otherwise.
november@piefed.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 139d
God I wish I were you.
MsPenguinette@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 139d
Definitely getting strong strawman vibes
Firebirdie713@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 139d
I have had multiple people say this exact thing to me both in person and on the internet. This is not a strawman in the slightest, and even a very basic search on social media and blog sites will demonstrate this.
FatVegan@leminal.space · 2 pts · 138d
That never happened to me. But i had people try to make me feel bad for eating avocados because, you know they use water to grow them.
Soulcreator@programming.dev · 2 pts · 138d
Oh yeah totally a strawman argument, this clearly has never been discussed by every wannabe carnivore influencer, and is never repeated adnauseam in the comments section of virtually any video which even broaches the subject of veganism. And there obviously isn't countless videos online discussing this topic:
https://youtube.com/shorts/tKUv8JrrzSY https://www.instagram.com/reel/DI6mr9kuf0d/ https://share.google/w4qgjGK6hJkSOHcvx
infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net · 8 pts · 139d
The occasional non-vegan who doesn't think well on their own but wants to sound smart. Or the occasional troll / animal ag plant who wants to propagate anti-vegan myths. I've come across the claim about a dozen times online and once IRL.
jtrek@startrek.website · 8 pts · 139d
Idiots and liars, I assume.
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 8 pts · 139d
Probably people who think that veg(itari)anism is 'woke'.
You know the kind. The ones who think everything is an attack on their toxic masculinity.
Chee_Koala@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 139d
but the... windmills... they kill birds!
Two_Hangmen@midwest.social · 9 pts · 139d
This should forever be used as an example of a strawman argument.
nutbutter@discuss.tchncs.de · 0 pts · 139d
What's strawman argument?
grrgyle@slrpnk.net · 7 pts · 138d
So killing animals is wrong? We shouldn't do it? Great! Let's work together to bring that number down