So I guess I can just like put all the punctuation at the beginning of a comment or whatever segment of text on any medium It looks like it takes a bit too much effort but I suppose it can protect me from scrutiny
There was an author who did that for the second edition of his book. First edition had no punctuation so the second edition he added a few pages of punctuation at the end for complainers. He said they could put them where they wanted to.
Do you notice people misunderstanding you?
That's how you'd know.
If you are not getting feedback from your readers, then fair enough, you'll never know; but in that case, how do you even know anyone is reading your writing?
I tend to think my grammar its like a tree falling in the woods, the few squirrels that notice it can probably find another tree to harass.
Ironically, I've found that in many cases, frequently I find perfectly correct grammar to be more a hindrance to communication than a boon. In certain cases, grammatically wrong leads to fewer misunderstandings.
I might have terrible grammar and everyone knows it except for me
Do you notice people misunderstanding you? That’s how you’d know.
The case where people know about a grammar issue but still understand the writer is a counterexample to your claim.
As someone who was raised Rural and will drop a lot of dialect into speech, I've seen how it colours the response and taints the message. I've seen where people spot a bad habit and just let it go. People know.
The more one learns about structure and form, the more one notices these gaffes; and not only does it change how the message was received, but it can also be one-sided. For instance: people who say "some emails" don't realise how discordant it sounds to people who don't say "some mails". People who say "some email" I think aren't generally noticed by people who say "the mails".
What you do with what you notice? That's on you. But in a world where first impressions are actually a thing, it'll be noticed.
Misunderstanding is where I'd put the dividing line between style and grammar, or at least useful grammar.
I didn't know anyone cares how I pluralise emails though; I'll be making sure to include the 's' from now on though, maybe I can use it to literally get some nob-heads to reveal their true nature.
23 Comments
Mothra@mander.xyz · 19 pts · 127d
Just post online more often. People will point at your mistakes
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 127d
I'm doing my part!
123@programming.dev · 2 pts · 127d
MaggiWuerze@feddit.org · 14 pts · 128d
Yeah, we know
Codpiece@feddit.uk · 8 pts · 128d
Correct usage of punctuation is equally important.
Edit: for the pedants :)
Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 128d
Nuh uh. You can also use incorrect punctuation,
lath@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 128d
Every punctuation is correct, just not always placed correctly.
Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 128d
,,()?,...
So I guess I can just like put all the punctuation at the beginning of a comment or whatever segment of text on any medium It looks like it takes a bit too much effort but I suppose it can protect me from scrutiny
teft@piefed.social · 5 pts · 127d
There was an author who did that for the second edition of his book. First edition had no punctuation so the second edition he added a few pages of punctuation at the end for complainers. He said they could put them where they wanted to.
Codpiece@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 128d
What’s like putting?
Sonotsugipaa@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 128d
It means putting something in a likely way (?)
Codpiece@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 128d
That’s like a good answer.
Saapas@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 127d
Reverse Polish Punctuation
AmidFuror@fedia.io · 1 pts · 127d
For the OP, your title has two independent clauses, and you need to separate them with a comma before the word "and."
Dicska@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 127d
I might easily be wrong, but isn't punctuation just part of grammar (along with spelling, which I used to confuse with grammar)?
bryndos@fedia.io · 4 pts · 128d
Do you notice people misunderstanding you? That's how you'd know.
If you are not getting feedback from your readers, then fair enough, you'll never know; but in that case, how do you even know anyone is reading your writing?
I tend to think my grammar its like a tree falling in the woods, the few squirrels that notice it can probably find another tree to harass.
agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 127d
Ironically, I've found that in many cases, frequently I find perfectly correct grammar to be more a hindrance to communication than a boon. In certain cases, grammatically wrong leads to fewer misunderstandings.
bryndos@fedia.io · 1 pts · 126d
Yes, I reckon that mutual sensitivity between parties is more important than any rules.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 127d
The case where people know about a grammar issue but still understand the writer is a counterexample to your claim.
As someone who was raised Rural and will drop a lot of dialect into speech, I've seen how it colours the response and taints the message. I've seen where people spot a bad habit and just let it go. People know.
The more one learns about structure and form, the more one notices these gaffes; and not only does it change how the message was received, but it can also be one-sided. For instance: people who say "some emails" don't realise how discordant it sounds to people who don't say "some mails". People who say "some email" I think aren't generally noticed by people who say "the mails".
What you do with what you notice? That's on you. But in a world where first impressions are actually a thing, it'll be noticed.
bryndos@fedia.io · 1 pts · 126d
Misunderstanding is where I'd put the dividing line between style and grammar, or at least useful grammar.
I didn't know anyone cares how I pluralise emails though; I'll be making sure to include the 's' from now on though, maybe I can use it to literally get some nob-heads to reveal their true nature.
teft@piefed.social · 2 pts · 127d
My fear when talking in my second language.
corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 127d
I claim all bets are off with a non-native tongue. But spelling-checker tools are a thing, so we're not completely off the hook.
I just don't do any French or Spanish here ! ;-)
hexagonwin@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 127d
lol same