Intel CEO says he can 'think of no better partner than Elon Musk' to explore 'unconventional' ways to improve chip manufacturing — TeraFab partnership aims to rethink how chips are made to reduce cost
That's how you get stupid ideas like making chips in space. An idea that was so thoroughly debunked it's ridiculous, already the same day Musk came out with it.
If this is anything other than an attempt to get money from Musk they truly must be out of options.
I would say equally stupid. Data centers essentially have two inputs and two outputs (obviously a lot more in real life), data/electricity and data/heat, respectively. All of those are easier on the ground, but removing heat makes it an absolute deal breaker in space. You simply can’t radiate that much heat in space. You would need unrealistically large surface area exposed to the vacuum of space.
Musk is an idiot, but I'm sure he was salivating over all the potential launch fees SpaceX would rake in if some doo-doo brain decided to actually haul a chip foundry into orbit.
If moronic ideas makes you executive material, may I suggest the south pole? Imagine the cooling efficiency!
All we need is some power plants and other minor infrastructure.
I should be CEO of some company. 🤣🤣🤣
Notes for my next build. I won’t be buying intel. For the same reason that I won’t be buying a Tesla. Elon Musk is a beneficiary via his now existing partnership with Intel, and profits to the company support funding that partnership, which means support for the company is also support for Elon. Fuck Elon and now fuck Intel too.
He is not clueless, Musk is a senior American oligarch with significant influence (if not some manner of control of) the US government. Potentially over a long period of time.
Semiconductors nodes and partnerships isn't a mass market topic (even within tech), it's mostly a segment of tech nerds and business types. Tiny group comparatively.
I am willing to bet the overwhelming majority of people who know of Intel or Musk, will never hear about this.
He has got nothing to lose and everything to gain.
DIY or prebuilt or laptop; you don't really have much options in terms of companies not committed to US oligarchy/crime, which makes sense since most are from the US and ARM (UK-based?) cannot exit the US market.
AMD is not a better or worse company. They are not going to care about Musk.
Apple ARM SoCs? Should a need arise, they will find a way to manage PR; either via the partnership structure (hiding it) or via Trump playing scapegoat.
ARM itself? Owned by SoftBank, remember Adam Neumann of WeWork?
Was SoftBank CEO Masayoshi Son lying with "Neumann is Jobs 3.5a" or he got played by Neumann (got to be some crazy hubris) or whether he said the quiet part out loud. I believe Son's key goal is replicating his (claim to fame?) early investment into Alibaba he doesn't give a shit.
Qualcomm ARM? Qualcomm tried to extort Apple and others by double dipping on FRAND type license. I respect their gumption; going after Applr street crime style.
EU doesn't offer much in terms of CPUs. Adruino got sold to Qualcomm (after Trump re-election!). Nothing else comes to mind. Median EU citizen will likely need an invasion by the Russians (just after an American exit) to get their shit togother around dumping US tech products in a real manner.
While I conceptually appreciate China's industrial policy, their CPU products don't seem viable due to ecosystem factors. Very expensive and no support (I am in Ukraine, maybe things are different in the EU).
That being said switching to Chinese CPUs to get rid of US CPUs is the definition of jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.
There is some theoretical possibility that US will course correct in the next 20-30 in a real manner: E.g. Prosecute Musk, Zuckerberg for premeditated disorderly shutdown of USAID and enablement of Rohingya genocide. Up to and including capital punishment (for lieutenants too), in an international court with a public statement that US judiciary not being suitable for such matters.
At best they will get another Obama, who isn't that far off from Trump if you look at it in a clinical manner. I lived in the US during Obama, not prosecuting financial oligarchs for causing the Great recession shows what Obama is about (one would think it would be a historical opportunity for a shrewd and calculating politician considering US cultural specifics).
There is no chance that China stops being a brutal authoritarian state capitalist society in the next 20-30 years.
This post turned out to be much longer than I initially intended.
LOL, where are the electric semis, where are the solarpanel roof tiles, where is the hyperloop, where is (insert something of the many more things he promised).
Something tells me everything Elon is involved in now is related to "national security" and espionage... Like the capabilities of starlink for surveillance, radar and espionage
62 Comments
gdog05@lemmy.world · 126 pts · 113d
If you can't think of anyone better you should fucking resign right now. Yesterday before you said something so stupid would be better.
Rekall_Incorporated@piefed.social · 14 pts · 113d
Not happening look at Intel's stock price since Tan took over.
Kommeavsted@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 112d
Intel's head of thermal design taught my class in vibrations. Guy couldn't do basic calculus.
gdog05@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 112d
That makes two of us. I'm guessing his pay is a bit higher than mine, though.
Lydon_Feen@lemmy.world · 68 pts · 113d
Ah yes, get the guy who says he knows more about manufacturing than anyone else on the planet
Fuck you Intel. And FUUUUUUUUUUUCK Elon Musk.
Gnugit@aussie.zone · 64 pts · 113d
Another reason not to buy intel..
exu@feditown.com · -8 pts · 113d
It's not like AMD or Nvidia are better
arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone · 30 pts · 113d
At least they haven't said something this fucking dumb AFAIK. Plus the US govt owns a stake in Intel.
EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 112d
And Musk owns a stake in the US government.
Kazel@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 113d
Don't know, seems like AMD doesn't really fuck around right now
exu@feditown.com · 14 pts · 113d
They're absolutely collaborating with the US insanity
https://youtu.be/KYafaTYjZwA?t=1283
Kazel@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 112d
sad, thanks for the link
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 113d
Just like how they completely revolutionized the way tunnels are dug with the Boring Company. Oh wait...
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 45 pts · 113d
So cut quality and lie about the performance.
4am@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 113d
Don’t forget hide backdoors that will be flagrantly abused by engineers who aren’t supposed to be using them. Like Elon.
(Yeah I know he’s not an engineer, but he’ll still be the one doing all the shitty things because of course billionaire manbaby would)
Jhex@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 113d
"unconventional"
chaogomu@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 113d
Sadly that shit is getting to be quite conventional these days.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 113d
That's how you get stupid ideas like making chips in space. An idea that was so thoroughly debunked it's ridiculous, already the same day Musk came out with it.
If this is anything other than an attempt to get money from Musk they truly must be out of options.
Slotos@feddit.nl · 11 pts · 113d
What the… But heat! Lasers make heat, space is insulating!
Who… why?..
What a life to be literate.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 113d
Exactly, only a moron would think it's a clever idea. And that Moron was Elon Musk.
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/elon-musk-lays-out-terafab-ai-chip-project-plan-2026-04-23/
I remembered it slightly wrong though, Musk wanted the data centers in space. Slightly less stupid, but only slightly.
hperrin@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 113d
I would say equally stupid. Data centers essentially have two inputs and two outputs (obviously a lot more in real life), data/electricity and data/heat, respectively. All of those are easier on the ground, but removing heat makes it an absolute deal breaker in space. You simply can’t radiate that much heat in space. You would need unrealistically large surface area exposed to the vacuum of space.
sundray@lemmus.org · 7 pts · 113d
Musk is an idiot, but I'm sure he was salivating over all the potential launch fees SpaceX would rake in if some doo-doo brain decided to actually haul a chip foundry into orbit.
EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 112d
Best place was the ocean, which Microsoft tried and decided it wasn’t worth it.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 112d
If moronic ideas makes you executive material, may I suggest the south pole? Imagine the cooling efficiency!
All we need is some power plants and other minor infrastructure.
I should be CEO of some company. 🤣🤣🤣
stoly@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 113d
so Intel's CEO is a clueless business bro. too bad
partofthevoice@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 113d
Notes for my next build. I won’t be buying intel. For the same reason that I won’t be buying a Tesla. Elon Musk is a beneficiary via his now existing partnership with Intel, and profits to the company support funding that partnership, which means support for the company is also support for Elon. Fuck Elon and now fuck Intel too.
Diurnambule@jlai.lu · 5 pts · 112d
Epstein class news.
Rekall_Incorporated@piefed.social · -1 pts · 113d
He is not clueless, Musk is a senior American oligarch with significant influence (if not some manner of control of) the US government. Potentially over a long period of time.
Semiconductors nodes and partnerships isn't a mass market topic (even within tech), it's mostly a segment of tech nerds and business types. Tiny group comparatively.
I am willing to bet the overwhelming majority of people who know of Intel or Musk, will never hear about this.
He has got nothing to lose and everything to gain.
DIY or prebuilt or laptop; you don't really have much options in terms of companies not committed to US oligarchy/crime, which makes sense since most are from the US and ARM (UK-based?) cannot exit the US market.
AMD is not a better or worse company. They are not going to care about Musk.
Apple ARM SoCs? Should a need arise, they will find a way to manage PR; either via the partnership structure (hiding it) or via Trump playing scapegoat.
ARM itself? Owned by SoftBank, remember Adam Neumann of WeWork?
Was SoftBank CEO Masayoshi Son lying with "Neumann is Jobs 3.5a" or he got played by Neumann (got to be some crazy hubris) or whether he said the quiet part out loud. I believe Son's key goal is replicating his (claim to fame?) early investment into Alibaba he doesn't give a shit.
Qualcomm ARM? Qualcomm tried to extort Apple and others by double dipping on FRAND type license. I respect their gumption; going after Applr street crime style.
EU doesn't offer much in terms of CPUs. Adruino got sold to Qualcomm (after Trump re-election!). Nothing else comes to mind. Median EU citizen will likely need an invasion by the Russians (just after an American exit) to get their shit togother around dumping US tech products in a real manner.
While I conceptually appreciate China's industrial policy, their CPU products don't seem viable due to ecosystem factors. Very expensive and no support (I am in Ukraine, maybe things are different in the EU).
That being said switching to Chinese CPUs to get rid of US CPUs is the definition of jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.
There is some theoretical possibility that US will course correct in the next 20-30 in a real manner: E.g. Prosecute Musk, Zuckerberg for premeditated disorderly shutdown of USAID and enablement of Rohingya genocide. Up to and including capital punishment (for lieutenants too), in an international court with a public statement that US judiciary not being suitable for such matters.
At best they will get another Obama, who isn't that far off from Trump if you look at it in a clinical manner. I lived in the US during Obama, not prosecuting financial oligarchs for causing the Great recession shows what Obama is about (one would think it would be a historical opportunity for a shrewd and calculating politician considering US cultural specifics).
There is no chance that China stops being a brutal authoritarian state capitalist society in the next 20-30 years.
This post turned out to be much longer than I initially intended.
Headofthebored@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 113d
RIP Intel. Joining forces with a guy who turns everything to shit wasn't the best plan. Lmao
Internetexplorer@lemmy.world · -11 pts · 112d
He's literally the most successful businessman on the planet.
polle@feddit.org · 5 pts · 112d
You mean con man.
Internetexplorer@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 111d
No I don't mean con man. He's a exceptional business man, who's revolutionised electric cars for the planet.
I doubt you've done much better.
polle@feddit.org · 0 pts · 111d
LOL, where are the electric semis, where are the solarpanel roof tiles, where is the hyperloop, where is (insert something of the many more things he promised).
Internetexplorer@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 109d
He's also created one of the mist powerful EV brands on planet.
Revolutionised the EV world, and released the best selling EVs on he planet.
What have you done?
polle@feddit.org · 0 pts · 109d
Nice fanboying
Internetexplorer@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 106d
It's not fanboying, it's called reality.
You might want to try it sometime.
hperrin@lemmy.ca · 21 pts · 113d
That just means he’s going to cut quality control.
nonentity@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 112d
Elon Musk is the personification of a moron’s hallucination of a genius.
Diurnambule@jlai.lu · 3 pts · 112d
He is the tape for billions if touched well enough. Only money and making more money later count for the Epstein class.
Dojan@pawb.social · 11 pts · 113d
He can’t think? Poor thing! I mean that’s to be expected of a CEO, I guess!
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 112d
Oooh, so removed serial liar found a new victim!
As long as he keeps fucking over big bad organisations, I'm fine with it.
Intel is fucked.
Brummbaer@pawb.social · 3 pts · 112d
Yep, if we are lucky Oracle is next!
ExtremeUnicorn@feddit.org · 1 pts · 110d
Intel is no "victim".
ksh@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 113d
CEO clearly desires sabotage.
cronenthal@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 113d
Anything for the stock price, and I mean anything! It needs to go up, and it needs to go up now!
RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip · 8 pts · 113d
The picture looks like a Star Trek captain welcoming Jim Carreys Dumb Dumber character.
Rekall_Incorporated@piefed.social · 3 pts · 113d
True that, although JIm Carreys character had a bit more charm.
This one looks like 20 years of hard drugs have passed since the heyday.
Lumidaub@feddit.org · 2 pts · 113d
An admiral.
comador@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 113d
Looks at 2022 NUC 13 that was bought for work...
Goddamnit.
Rekall_Incorporated@piefed.social · 5 pts · 113d
Those intel NUC always seemed like a good deal if you don't really need full desktop expansibility and you have a corporate account.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 113d
Next Unit of Computing (NUC) 🤡
With a name like that, what did you expect?
ryannathans@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 113d
Something tells me everything Elon is involved in now is related to "national security" and espionage... Like the capabilities of starlink for surveillance, radar and espionage
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 112d
howdy@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 113d
what the haillll
Tronn4@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 113d
Tronn4@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 113d
Triumph@fedia.io · 1 pts · 113d
It's because he has the money.