cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/36974628
Expecting driverless taxis to respect bike lanes “too high a bar”
https://road.cc/news/driverless-taxis-veering-into-cycle-lanes-normal-practice-says-waymo
https://road.cc/news/driverless-taxis-veering-into-cycle-lanes-normal-practice-says-waymo
cross-posted from: https://slrpnk.net/post/36974628
20 Comments
Beetschnapps@lemmy.world · 71 pts · 113d
Well then expecting cyclists to not destroy your vehicles is too much as well…
pedz@lemmy.ca · 30 pts · 113d
Beyond the absurdity autonomous cars only following selected rules of the road, doesn't London have pretty good public transit?! Like, among the best in the world for a big city. Why in the fucking world would Waymo operate there unless it wants to compete public transit and bikes.
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 113d
... London is famous for it's taxis. Their role in london culture goes back centuries.
pedz@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 113d
AFAIK taxis don't pretend to be "sustainable".
Warl0k3@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 113d
I suppose if that's a pressing concern for them, they could always go back to the horse-drawn versions... Though I'm not sure what that has to do with the relevancy of the role taxis play in London transit.
bryndos@fedia.io · 4 pts · 112d
They're a plague on the city.
But they have a lot of political clout as they can jam up all the bus lanes when anything slightly inconvenient happens to them.
bryndos@fedia.io · 3 pts · 112d
it's ok, but far from best in the world, most archaic maybe.
Far too many fucking taxis blocking bus lanes. and it's very expensive to use the trains. Taxi drivers would go nuts and dirty protest all over the city if anyone proposed to cut fares.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 113d
If they stop in a bike lane there is some error in the software.
You can fix that by hitting that big black reset button on the roof with a sledge hammer
danielquinn@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 113d
Given that there's no one driving the car, there little disincentive to smash a tail light or window of one of these things pull in front of you.
You can also disable them nonviolently.
Cherry@piefed.social · 10 pts · 113d
Does the cone thing still work?
danielquinn@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 113d
I've never tried it, but I haven't heard that it was thwarted yet.
psx_crab@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 113d
Well they can expect people to casey neistat their taxi .
brockhold@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 113d
Is it illegal to stop in a bike lane in London? A quick search suggests it is in fact legal. That sucks, they should change that. It's illegal to drive a car in a protected bike lane in CA, and Waymo follows the law. When it's not a protected bike like, they put their stupid huge SUV into the lane and sit for as long as legally allowable and it sucks.
Venator@lemmy.nz · 9 pts · 113d
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/red-routes/rules-of-red-routes/cycle-lanes
tinfoilhat@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 112d
Expecting a Molotov cocktail to respect a driverless taxi is also "too high a bar"
Archangel1313@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 113d
This is like saying they can't be expected to avoid pedestrians using crosswalks. Customers are expecting the car to drive through the crosswalk when there's no one is crossing...so how are they expected to avoid hitting people who are crossing the street?
insight06@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 112d
We tried training our AI on real-world bike-lane-respecting telemetry, but there just wasn't enough data!
MrKoyun@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 112d
Oh, but letting AI take over the world is a very justifiable and achievable goal that will have no negative effects I am sure.
Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 113d
To be fair to self driving companies, regular drivers seem to have trouble with this task as well.
Decq@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 112d
Simple solution, just burn them down because that's what people 'expect' you to do with them.