Korean has a perfectly phonetic written language. It was invented by King Sejong and his scholars in 1444 specifically to be phonetic. Koreans probably use "Tyranasaurus" and "tiramisu" pronounced as-is, and the translator app translated the portmanteau phonetically to English.
To add to that, credit where credit is due, LLMs can often pick up on things like this. Machine translation has been LLM-based (or some primitive ancestors of LLM) for many years even before the AI boom. So AI probably helped a bit here.
That's my wild guess. I wouldn't call it a hypothesis, I'm just talking out of my ass.
There are other usages in computer linguistics. My master thesis was a neural parser. Other usages are in pattern recognition in medicine for example. But your point stands that often it makes things worse
I had heard about the medicine thing actually. When the use case actually lines up with what it is, it makes sense as a tool. It's that old adage though "When you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail."
Is there any way I can read your thesis? I'm casually curious, and also have no idea if college thesis are allowed to be shared online with rando people like me.
Well, it parses natural language. In linguistics, or syntax to be precise, there are different ideas on how to build syntax trees. The most common is Dependency Grammar, basically just a tree where every word points to the word it refers to (the adjective to the noun, the subject and the object to the verb, the verb is the root). I applied this to a different syntax theory called Role and Reference Grammar. You can google the latter, if you want to look into neural parsers in general, stanfordNLP has modules for python and I think online tools as well and stuff.
I think they might mean how the LLM picked up on the pun and not just transliterate like, tiranomisu. As a translator, I think it's pretty impressive too. I'm not sure if Google translate from 10 years ago would have done this correctly. Although, it's just a really good guess, if I'm understanding how LLMs work.
Cake molds have existed for at least 150 years from what I've witnessed, wouldn't be out of the question for a T-Rex skull mold to exist. Especially if the mold was somehow disposable but that's moreso based off of my knowledge of metal molds so it may not be applicable.
I think if you poured that from the back of the skull there aren't that many undercuts except around where the jaws meet.
Still likely a 2 part mold but nothing overly complicated and putting the seam around where the jaws meets alleviate the undercuts there as well as helps hide the seam.
Or it could be a single metal mold utilizing the size difference after heat change to help release. Still poured from the back which we don't see in the pics.
I do but it will probably have to come from the mortgage repayment pot. Personally I'm ok with that but I suspect the bank won't be, since they have no sense of humour when it comes to this sort of thing.
I think it works because tiramisu and tyrannosaurus are both loan words in Korean and English, from Italian and Greek (sortof, from tyrannos (tyrant) and sauros (lizard))
Tiramisu is 티라미수 and tyrannosaurus is 티라노사우루스 in Korean
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Quibblekrust@thelemmy.club · 155 pts · 128d
Korean has a perfectly phonetic written language. It was invented by King Sejong and his scholars in 1444 specifically to be phonetic. Koreans probably use "Tyranasaurus" and "tiramisu" pronounced as-is, and the translator app translated the portmanteau phonetically to English.
That's my hypothesis.
NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de · 57 pts · 128d
To add to that, credit where credit is due, LLMs can often pick up on things like this. Machine translation has been LLM-based (or some primitive ancestors of LLM) for many years even before the AI boom. So AI probably helped a bit here.
That's my wild guess. I wouldn't call it a hypothesis, I'm just talking out of my ass.
Elting@piefed.social · 49 pts · 128d
Translation might be the only thing they genuinely do better than older tools.
lugal@sopuli.xyz · 25 pts · 128d
There are other usages in computer linguistics. My master thesis was a neural parser. Other usages are in pattern recognition in medicine for example. But your point stands that often it makes things worse
Elting@piefed.social · 9 pts · 128d
I had heard about the medicine thing actually. When the use case actually lines up with what it is, it makes sense as a tool. It's that old adage though "When you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail."
BaroqueInMind@piefed.social · 4 pts · 127d
Is there any way I can read your thesis? I'm casually curious, and also have no idea if college thesis are allowed to be shared online with rando people like me.
lugal@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 127d
It depends in part in your ability to read German 😅 I wrote another comment elaborating a little and giving clues for "further reading"
Cris_Citrus@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 127d
Thats super cool! What sort of things did your neural parser do?
lugal@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 127d
Well, it parses natural language. In linguistics, or syntax to be precise, there are different ideas on how to build syntax trees. The most common is Dependency Grammar, basically just a tree where every word points to the word it refers to (the adjective to the noun, the subject and the object to the verb, the verb is the root). I applied this to a different syntax theory called Role and Reference Grammar. You can google the latter, if you want to look into neural parsers in general, stanfordNLP has modules for python and I think online tools as well and stuff.
grissino@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 127d
A hypothesis is basically a guess based on logical assumptions so you are there already.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 90 pts · 128d
Because the names that both languages use for these terms are just the original Latin and Italian.
k0e3@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 127d
I think they might mean how the LLM picked up on the pun and not just transliterate like, tiranomisu. As a translator, I think it's pretty impressive too. I'm not sure if Google translate from 10 years ago would have done this correctly. Although, it's just a really good guess, if I'm understanding how LLMs work.
lauha@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 127d
Likely the pun is not original
k0e3@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 127d
Yeah, it's most likely been done many times on the internet.
HasturInYellow@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 128d
cue x-files theme
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 127d
Scully, I thought Latin was supposed to be a dead language...
So what the hell is it doing in our victim's meme in posts from two different countries and languages?
Akasazh@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 127d
Wel, Mulder, your great great grandma is dead, but party of her genes are still life and kicking in you.
Memetics works the same way, originally.
Hegar@fedia.io · 49 pts · 128d
Because both the english and korean terms for the dessert are loan words from the same italian word.
Also scientific terms like tyrannasaur are almost always stay the same across cultures and languages.
cogitase@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 40 pts · 128d
It's transliteration not translation, the original post says "티라노미수" T-ra-no-mi-su
BillyClark@piefed.social · 38 pts · 128d
Tiramisu is an Italian phrase meaning "pick me up" or "cheer me up". Tyrannosaurus is mostly from Greek.
If you're surprised the pun works in Korean, then you should also be surprised that the pun works in English in the first place.
Both English and Korean use words from other languages! Sometimes, the same words.
homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 128d
DisgruntledGorillaGang@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 127d
I fucking love Keanu
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 21 pts · 128d
am I the only one wondering how the fuck this thing was made?
that has to be at least a 2 part silicone mold, to get the flexibility and undercuts right
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 128d
Your bury the trex in cocoa powder instead of sediments and wait a bit
Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio · 4 pts · 127d
Wait until you learn about statues. That'll really fuck with you.
village604@adultswim.fan · 4 pts · 127d
It looks carved to me. People do crazy shit with cake/chocolate. Netflix has a competition show about it that's pretty entertaining.
SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 127d
Those are two different cakes, and the holes look too similarly for them to be carved
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 127d
Cake molds have existed for at least 150 years from what I've witnessed, wouldn't be out of the question for a T-Rex skull mold to exist. Especially if the mold was somehow disposable but that's moreso based off of my knowledge of metal molds so it may not be applicable.
Doublenut@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 127d
I think if you poured that from the back of the skull there aren't that many undercuts except around where the jaws meet. Still likely a 2 part mold but nothing overly complicated and putting the seam around where the jaws meets alleviate the undercuts there as well as helps hide the seam.
Or it could be a single metal mold utilizing the size difference after heat change to help release. Still poured from the back which we don't see in the pics.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 128d
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/gq-xUrbhmvc
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Lgi8N6wjK3M
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dBjn4oc1Gjk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjQBRJQvkNM
TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 128d
Who cares about how it survived the translation, I WANT TO EAT THAT!
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 127d
I wish I had dinosaur shaped tiramissu money...
echodot@feddit.uk · 3 pts · 127d
I do but it will probably have to come from the mortgage repayment pot. Personally I'm ok with that but I suspect the bank won't be, since they have no sense of humour when it comes to this sort of thing.
sirico@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 128d
Hey it's Theo fun
KeenFlame@feddit.nu · 2 pts · 127d
What translation?
Venat0r@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 127d
from Korean
KeenFlame@feddit.nu · 1 pts · 127d
I think it was just spelled phonetically, their language describes sounds
Venat0r@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 127d
I think it works because tiramisu and tyrannosaurus are both loan words in Korean and English, from Italian and Greek (sortof, from tyrannos (tyrant) and sauros (lizard))
Tiramisu is 티라미수 and tyrannosaurus is 티라노사우루스 in Korean
Venat0r@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 127d
https://xcancel.com/qhc8821/status/2048297203974987934#m
Venat0r@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 127d
the original text was 티라노미수
https://xcancel.com/qhc8821/status/2048297203974987934#m