I still have zero respect of MTG. She made her turn of face while still in office where her vote could have affected real change, but instead she immediately resigned. If she had started voting to match her new rebrand then perhaps there would be something to undo all the partially damage she's done while in office, but no. She quit instead.
She's all talk just onto her next grift, and she thinks the left are her new mark.
I'm assuming this is way back when there was the isreal missile shield vote. MTG was part of the opposition to it, AOC basically argued it was purely defensive so we should back it. IMO that's one of AOCs worse takes on a subject that I've seen, when otherwise I would say I like AOCs stances 95% of the time.
If we want to make any progress a lot of people are going to have to get over the idea that every politician has to be perfect 100% of the time on every issue.
I don't know why AOC voted the way she did, and I don't care.
If I agree with someone 51% of the time, I'll vote for them.
Escaped slave Frederick Douglas supported Abe Lincoln over a candidate who was pushing for immediate abolition of slavery. Douglas knew that it was better to win and be able to influence the sitting President than to lose and have no power.
This post commenting on the disagreement was posted yesterday. Unless I'm missing something it sounds like it's talking about the arguement with MTG over the Iron Dome, which was before MTG left her house seat.
Now maybe there's a more recent issue this is commenting on that I missed. To my knowledge this is the only specific event where I could see someone arguing of Leftists taking MTGs side over AOC.
But the post is labeled May 9th 2026. The other two are 1d ago so presumably May 10th 2026. Why would it be talking about a vote that happened over a year ago?
Unfortunately, as a legislator sometimes you have to vote for something you're against in order to get something you're for. She's not stupid, so there is definitely some hidden pressure there.
I don't see anyone "cheering her rebrand". I for one cheer good stances and ideas. Will I say Thomas Massey has good policies and should be voted for... absolutely not. Will I say he's right when he says we need the facts about the epstien files, yes.
I'll agree with a good policy, or a correct idea from anyone's mouth, while holding whether they should be voted for on the totality of their actions.
It's important to remember that she is one giant, giant motherfucker. Being Anti-Trump doesn't mean she cares about anything other than herself, but I'll give her credit for seeing the shifting winds before the crowd.
I think it was the death threats from Trump supporters that led to her leaving. Nothing is real to these fuckers(except antifa, forced sex changes, etc...) until it happens to them.
The reason she's anti-trump is because he wouldn't support her campaign for Senate.
MTG is still a terrible, selfish person. She can be right for the wrong reasons.
And we can appreciate the hyenas eating themselves without supporting them. They're simply stealing our talking points while not even taking them far enough.
"Being anti-trump is so brave! Like...Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens!" Yeah, not the entire left who were, once again, correct all along. Nah, instead they'll grift each other and start supporting JD Vance from the looks of it, trying to paint him as the "sane one" or whatever bullshit they're trying.
Broken clock. Sometimes she's right, I'd still prefer to see her disappear into a deep hole, but that doesn't change when she's right about one or two things.
Depends on the messenger. If someone comes and tells me I look good and they love me, but it's the person who's been throwing their dog's feces over my fence for the last year, the message is very much overshadowed by the messenger.
Uhh, yeah. People who are disingenuous and just say shit you want to hear when they’ve got a history of doing the opposite aren’t to be trusted at all.
MTG has completely 180d on most of her policies in the last twelve months, so at this point disagreeing with MTG is disagreeing with AOC most of the time, at least in the
headlines and posts.
It seems more that she's grown aware and upset that Trump hasn't kept his campaign promises that she agrees with.
She's not marching under an ally flag anytime soon, just softening her rhetoric and laying low till Trump gets off her back for "betraying" him in demanding the Trumpb Epstein files be released (which was her and Trump's position prior to the presidential election).
MTG reads the New York Times now, has 180d her stances on health care, trump, women's rights, democratic legislation, inflation, supporting the war, foreign policy in general, the military budget, mass deportation, she's reading about history she was absolutely clueless about before, she's 180d on a bunch of stuff the past year.
If she had actually changed she wouldn't have resigned; she'd have stayed in Congress and fought them.
She slid out at the perfect time. She'll be a well paid talking head in the midterms and go on a lucrative lecture tour afterwards. She'll probably run in the 2028 primaries and go into the Convention with enough support to make a great deal for herself.
When it was advantageous for her to play the rube she played the rube. Now she is playing at reform.
If you want to assume short term political posturing is 180d behavior I think it's going to take more than 3 months to prove it's how she really is now.
She's tweeted:
"I actually texted her today and asked what can we treat hantavirus with. I’m so glad she posted it.
Ivermectin.
Also vitamin D and zinc.
Those of us who refused to lockdown, mask up, and get vaxxed took the good ole horse paste and also developed natural immunity."
If you want to believe everything apologetician says, by all means go ahead but don't put words in the mouth of others because you've embarrassed yourself.
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partial_accumen@lemmy.world · 87 pts · 94d
I still have zero respect of MTG. She made her turn of face while still in office where her vote could have affected real change, but instead she immediately resigned. If she had started voting to match her new rebrand then perhaps there would be something to undo all the partially damage she's done while in office, but no. She quit instead.
She's all talk just onto her next grift, and she thinks the left are her new mark.
fireweed@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 94d
What is this referencing specifically, "taking MTG's side over AOC's"?
TheFogan@programming.dev · 37 pts · 94d
I'm assuming this is way back when there was the isreal missile shield vote. MTG was part of the opposition to it, AOC basically argued it was purely defensive so we should back it. IMO that's one of AOCs worse takes on a subject that I've seen, when otherwise I would say I like AOCs stances 95% of the time.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 27 pts · 94d
If we want to make any progress a lot of people are going to have to get over the idea that every politician has to be perfect 100% of the time on every issue.
I don't know why AOC voted the way she did, and I don't care.
If I agree with someone 51% of the time, I'll vote for them.
Escaped slave Frederick Douglas supported Abe Lincoln over a candidate who was pushing for immediate abolition of slavery. Douglas knew that it was better to win and be able to influence the sitting President than to lose and have no power.
WraithGear@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 94d
not all issues are equal. backing genocide is a hard pill to swallow.
kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 94d
And chattel slavery isn't?
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 20 pts · 94d
Another thing that annoys me is that people act like them not voting is a powerful statement.
The GOP is working 24/7 to restrict voting, but BoTh SidES aRe THe SAme.
WraithGear@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 94d
yes
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 8 pts · 94d
And now you have five genocides going on, and the original one has been dialed up to 11.
WraithGear@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 94d
ok? not sure how that makes doubling down on genocide ok but sure.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 6 pts · 94d
You're not sure how five is larger than one?
WraithGear@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 94d
not sure how 4+1 is better then 5
RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 93d
Way back to yesterday, when it was posted?
TheFogan@programming.dev · 1 pts · 93d
This post commenting on the disagreement was posted yesterday. Unless I'm missing something it sounds like it's talking about the arguement with MTG over the Iron Dome, which was before MTG left her house seat.
MTG arguing her side of it back on July 2025.
https://x.com/AOC/status/1946588421197046084
Now maybe there's a more recent issue this is commenting on that I missed. To my knowledge this is the only specific event where I could see someone arguing of Leftists taking MTGs side over AOC.
njm1314@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 92d
But the post is labeled May 9th 2026. The other two are 1d ago so presumably May 10th 2026. Why would it be talking about a vote that happened over a year ago?
Freeposity@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 93d
Unfortunately, as a legislator sometimes you have to vote for something you're against in order to get something you're for. She's not stupid, so there is definitely some hidden pressure there.
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 94d
And no I don’t mean Magic The Gathering, because I don’t expect any sane person to support that crippling addiction /s
FauxPseudo@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 94d
Next month I will be 30 years clean from MTG.
gedaliyah@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 94d
Leftists tripping over themselves to cheer MTG's sloppy rebrand
TheFogan@programming.dev · 21 pts · 94d
I don't see anyone "cheering her rebrand". I for one cheer good stances and ideas. Will I say Thomas Massey has good policies and should be voted for... absolutely not. Will I say he's right when he says we need the facts about the epstien files, yes.
I'll agree with a good policy, or a correct idea from anyone's mouth, while holding whether they should be voted for on the totality of their actions.
NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io · 6 pts · 94d
Yeah, all like three of pro-MTG leftists.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 94d
It's important to remember that she is one giant, giant motherfucker. Being Anti-Trump doesn't mean she cares about anything other than herself, but I'll give her credit for seeing the shifting winds before the crowd.
Freeposity@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 93d
I think it was the death threats from Trump supporters that led to her leaving. Nothing is real to these fuckers(except antifa, forced sex changes, etc...) until it happens to them.
godsammitdam@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 93d
The reason she's anti-trump is because he wouldn't support her campaign for Senate.
MTG is still a terrible, selfish person. She can be right for the wrong reasons.
And we can appreciate the hyenas eating themselves without supporting them. They're simply stealing our talking points while not even taking them far enough.
"Being anti-trump is so brave! Like...Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens!" Yeah, not the entire left who were, once again, correct all along. Nah, instead they'll grift each other and start supporting JD Vance from the looks of it, trying to paint him as the "sane one" or whatever bullshit they're trying.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 94d
Broken clock. Sometimes she's right, I'd still prefer to see her disappear into a deep hole, but that doesn't change when she's right about one or two things.
athatet@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 93d
People keep saying this as if it is useful. I don’t keep a broken clock around my house and use it to tell the time. I throw it out and get a new one.
SatansDaughter@piefed.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 94d
Drusas@fedia.io · 6 pts · 94d
This post doesn't really suggest that you did see it yourself. Why not include that part?
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 94d
Here
discocactus@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 94d
Look, Goblin Storm slaps.
an_onanist@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 94d
The messenger is more important than than the message?
somewhiteguy@reddthat.com · 9 pts · 94d
Depends on the messenger. If someone comes and tells me I look good and they love me, but it's the person who's been throwing their dog's feces over my fence for the last year, the message is very much overshadowed by the messenger.
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 94d
Uhh, yeah. People who are disingenuous and just say shit you want to hear when they’ve got a history of doing the opposite aren’t to be trusted at all.
glimse@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 94d
Are there examples of this happening? I can't say I've seen it even once
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 94d
Here’s an interaction I had the other day
glimse@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 94d
Is that on .world? I see there are 6 comments but I can't see the comments themselves
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 94d
Yeah it is. But here’s the exchange.
glimse@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 94d
Ohhh, it's pp boy.
I wonder why I can't view the comments. I'm on .world and not banned from politics as far as I know
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 94d
I know nothing about this user, should I?
glimse@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 94d
Eh, he's usually fine. But he definitely seems to try to stir up in-fighting
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 92d
She's back to promoting ivermectin for hanta virus.
She needs to stay within the confines of her trailer park.
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 94d
I dunno it's a pretty fun game what's the big deal?
Hozerkiller@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 94d
Age of Cigmar
SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org · -3 pts · 94d
Who? Nobody cares about American Politics. It's all for naught when you have a King. Talk all you want, but that won't make him abdicate.
Soulg@ani.social · 5 pts · 94d
Idiots on this platform: fucking Americans why don't you do anything????
Also idiots on this platform: fucking Americans nothing you do matters so who gives a shit????
imeansurewhynot@sh.itjust.works · -12 pts · 94d
MTG has completely 180d on most of her policies in the last twelve months, so at this point disagreeing with MTG is disagreeing with AOC most of the time, at least in the headlines and posts.
For anybody else who is unaware.
unmagical@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 94d
It seems more that she's grown aware and upset that Trump hasn't kept his campaign promises that she agrees with.
She's not marching under an ally flag anytime soon, just softening her rhetoric and laying low till Trump gets off her back for "betraying" him in demanding the Trumpb Epstein files be released (which was her and Trump's position prior to the presidential election).
Zomg@piefed.world · 7 pts · 94d
She started spewing ivermectin once the Hantavirus news was coming.
She didn't 180 anything. She agrees with YOUR opinion every once in a while, not the other way around.
imeansurewhynot@sh.itjust.works · -9 pts · 94d
Nope, you are completely wrong there.
MTG reads the New York Times now, has 180d her stances on health care, trump, women's rights, democratic legislation, inflation, supporting the war, foreign policy in general, the military budget, mass deportation, she's reading about history she was absolutely clueless about before, she's 180d on a bunch of stuff the past year.
DagwoodIII@piefed.social · 6 pts · 94d
Don't get played.
If she had actually changed she wouldn't have resigned; she'd have stayed in Congress and fought them.
She slid out at the perfect time. She'll be a well paid talking head in the midterms and go on a lucrative lecture tour afterwards. She'll probably run in the 2028 primaries and go into the Convention with enough support to make a great deal for herself.
When it was advantageous for her to play the rube she played the rube. Now she is playing at reform.
imeansurewhynot@sh.itjust.works · -3 pts · 94d
Sorry if you got tricked by her, but you're barking up the wrong tree.
I don't like or believe in MTG, just slinging facts.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 94d
Mark
imeansurewhynot@sh.itjust.works · -3 pts · 94d
Yall get played too easy
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 94d
Played by whom? You're the one falling for someone obviously posturing for the office of the President
imeansurewhynot@sh.itjust.works · -3 pts · 94d
You're all playing yourselves.
You're terrified of being hoodwinked by someone who complains about Jewish space lasers.
If you like MTG, that's your thing, but don't pretend I do when I explicitly said otherwise.
You guys are plainly wrong on current publicly available political facts, so I'm setting you straight.
Zomg@piefed.world · 1 pts · 93d
If you want to assume short term political posturing is 180d behavior I think it's going to take more than 3 months to prove it's how she really is now.
She's tweeted:
"I actually texted her today and asked what can we treat hantavirus with. I’m so glad she posted it. Ivermectin. Also vitamin D and zinc. Those of us who refused to lockdown, mask up, and get vaxxed took the good ole horse paste and also developed natural immunity."
https://x.com/FmrRepMTG/status/2052168655975133406
imeansurewhynot@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 93d
If you want to believe everything apologetician says, by all means go ahead but don't put words in the mouth of others because you've embarrassed yourself.
Zomg@piefed.world · 1 pts · 93d
Oh, I'm certainly not embarrassed, good luck out there lil bro.
I'll file this under "little fella might be schizophrenic" and forget you exist.
imeansurewhynot@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 93d
Keep rocking back and forth playing make believe, chump
athatet@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 93d
You: mtg made a complete “180d” on everything!
Others: well no. She is actually just lying.
You: OMG. I can’t believe how hard she played you. You fell right into her trap!
Bro. What the actual fuck are you talking about?
athatet@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 93d
I’m aware that she is a shit human who lies about her policies because all she believes in is the grift.