I've said that if I went out and they were guillotining billionaires I would say "Hey, I wanted to do this with progressive taxation, single-payer healthcare, and free daycare, but you just wouldn't compromise, so here we are!"
You know, it's tricky. I get called rich on the Internet, based on my position and salary. But I don't feel rich. I don't own my own home and I doubt I ever will. I rarely take vacations,I don't eat out - too expensive. I don't go to the pub with my friends anymore, can't afford it.
It’s totally relative. My husband and I together in Germany earn about half of what I used to earn alone in the US (we’re a student and an apprentice, so we earn especially little). I’m still significantly more prepared for emergency costs now than I used to be, because the total rent for my apartment is about half what I used to pay, and I no longer have significant health/health insurance or vehicle costs.
We’re talking about people that are, objectively, richer than 99% of literally everyone else in the entire world. The point you’re trying to make is relatively meaningless in the current context.
Not really. You probably have all your needs met (enough food, somewhere comfortable to sleep) with leftover resources. Many in the world do not have their basic needs met. You could give your extra resources (everything above necessary food and board) to the poor. You are hoarding wealth from their perspective. Just like you see the billionaires hoarding wealth.
Oh I'm no hero, I've got way more than I need and I'm enjoying it. Not bezos levels, but quite fine thank you. But as such I can see the vitriol against the millionaires is rather hypocritical. And I can jerk off however I see fit.
They certainly consider themselves outside of society. Even the sociopath billionaire equivalents of the early previous century had beaten into them the understanding of civic duty and charity, so they built schools, libraries, and hospitals. Today’s billionaires have none of that other than a desire to lighten their tax load and donate in self-serving ways. They are truly parasites on society, they leech off of everyone and cause far more harm relative to the absolutely minuscule few jobs they might create - and even then the jobs only serve to make the billionaire richer.
Exactly. Even the most brutal lords and rulers understood that they needed to keep their populace placated somehow or there will be trouble.
The Italian warlords and nobility of the 15th and 16th centuries were some of the most monstrous, murderous bastards you've ever seen, but they also bankrolled much of the art that Renaissance Italy is famous for.
Glad this guy is reminding us that the extremely wealthy can say shit so profoundly stupid you have to question their mental capacity. Really drives home that circumstances and greed can and do make stupid people rich.
I agree. It is hateful. People hate your face and what your kind is doing to the world and to it's people.
Is it morally unjust though? Nope. You are the leeches of this world and unless forcibly removed you will destroy more and more lives, most likely the world.
Financial obesity is an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.
Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.
Maybe it is ... but there's also some justice in it.
At lot of rich people got that what by taking advantage of a lot of taxpayer-funded infrastructure (like Bezos, say). Others got that way by paying their workers as little as they could get away with. Others slowly buy up the competitions then sell shittier stuff for the same price.
When you add it all up, it's clear that they've gotten the system rigged in their favor for a looong time. It's payback time, muh-fuhs.
OH GOD! I am so TIRED of hearing about how the "poors" struggle and about the "bad" rich people! I am poor but I plan to be rich, and I think it's DISGUSTING how the lower classes are trying to keep me down from from rising above them!!!
Yes it is hateful. That is absolutely true. It's also absolutely true that this hatred is based on choices and actions, not on a characteristic that someone was born with or did not have any choice over. So fuck him.
So all I would have to say to him is this: You want people to be proud of you, do something that is worthy of praise, you pathetic bastard. And hey! If you can't think of anything off the top of your head, there's plenty of mouths to feed and we can always build a guillotine.
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_chris@lemmy.world · 115 pts · 100d
We can skip the tax and straight to Luigi. Your call.
GraniteM@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 100d
I've said that if I went out and they were guillotining billionaires I would say "Hey, I wanted to do this with progressive taxation, single-payer healthcare, and free daycare, but you just wouldn't compromise, so here we are!"
tomiant@piefed.social · 5 pts · 99d
I might not wait for an answer.
BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 99d
I like you already
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 89 pts · 100d
When I say "tax the rich" I absolutely do mean it with as much hate in my heart as any slur-shouting racist ever had.
The difference here is: The rich earned that hate.
Oh, and by the way, there are two options here...
Tax the rich.
Eat the rich.
Your choice, buddy. Which will it be?
BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 100d
Shoot, I mean it with more aggression
AnchoriteMagus@sh.itjust.works · 70 pts · 100d
Sorry, Richie Rich, but people don't get to choose their race. You, conversely, could have chosen not to be a soulless currency hoarder.
Nothing wrong with hating a person for things they did voluntarily.
iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world · 36 pts · 100d
CannonFodder@lemmy.world · -19 pts · 100d
Yes. But it's all relative. You are probably a very rich person compared to the poorest 20% of the world. Should they eat you?
iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 100d
HasturInYellow@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 100d
And that's called integrity. A rare sight in these troubled times.
RVGamer06@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 100d
::: spoiler I think that's just called vorarephilia :::
iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 99d
BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 100d
You know, it's tricky. I get called rich on the Internet, based on my position and salary. But I don't feel rich. I don't own my own home and I doubt I ever will. I rarely take vacations,I don't eat out - too expensive. I don't go to the pub with my friends anymore, can't afford it.
Because I live in Vancouver, an expensive city.
It's all relative.
idiomaddict@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 100d
It’s totally relative. My husband and I together in Germany earn about half of what I used to earn alone in the US (we’re a student and an apprentice, so we earn especially little). I’m still significantly more prepared for emergency costs now than I used to be, because the total rent for my apartment is about half what I used to pay, and I no longer have significant health/health insurance or vehicle costs.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 100d
We’re talking about people that are, objectively, richer than 99% of literally everyone else in the entire world. The point you’re trying to make is relatively meaningless in the current context.
CannonFodder@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 99d
Not really. You probably have all your needs met (enough food, somewhere comfortable to sleep) with leftover resources. Many in the world do not have their basic needs met. You could give your extra resources (everything above necessary food and board) to the poor. You are hoarding wealth from their perspective. Just like you see the billionaires hoarding wealth.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 99d
Don’t break an arm jerking yourself off, there, hero.
CannonFodder@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 99d
Oh I'm no hero, I've got way more than I need and I'm enjoying it. Not bezos levels, but quite fine thank you. But as such I can see the vitriol against the millionaires is rather hypocritical. And I can jerk off however I see fit.
NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 99d
Then maybe shut the fuck up.
CannonFodder@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 99d
Why? U can stfu about billionaires being evil if you're the same evil.
TheGoldenV@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 100d
They can start with my ass.
iThinkDifferentThanU@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 99d
billwashere@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 100d
So treating the rich like everyone else who is paying taxes is a “racial slur”.
pipi1234@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 100d
The interesting part for me, is that you can clearly infer from this that billionaires consider themselves a different race.
RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 100d
They certainly consider themselves outside of society. Even the sociopath billionaire equivalents of the early previous century had beaten into them the understanding of civic duty and charity, so they built schools, libraries, and hospitals. Today’s billionaires have none of that other than a desire to lighten their tax load and donate in self-serving ways. They are truly parasites on society, they leech off of everyone and cause far more harm relative to the absolutely minuscule few jobs they might create - and even then the jobs only serve to make the billionaire richer.
ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 99d
Exactly. Even the most brutal lords and rulers understood that they needed to keep their populace placated somehow or there will be trouble.
The Italian warlords and nobility of the 15th and 16th centuries were some of the most monstrous, murderous bastards you've ever seen, but they also bankrolled much of the art that Renaissance Italy is famous for.
BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 100d
It's easier to think of them as Lords and Ladies ruling by birthright.
HeroicBillyBishop@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 100d
1780s France enters the chat
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 100d
Taxing the rich isn't the solution, guillotines however.......
ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 99d
Guillotines are too 18th century. We can use woodchippers. Feet first!
the_riviera_kid@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 99d
agreed
bountygiver@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 99d
but it's easier to pass the head around the crowd than whatever bits and pieces left by the woodchipper
BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 99d
If something is worth doing, it's worth doing right
ArmchairAce1944@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 95d
But why though? All they did in the past was hold up the head and cry out 'behold the head of (insert name here)'.
A public execution with them clearly in the woodchopper and screaming in agony is all what is needed.
Sharkticon@lemmy.zip · 21 pts · 100d
Listen pumpkin "tax the rich" is the last thin sliver that stands between you and what the rest of us really want. So take your pick.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 100d
Just give all your money away and you won’t be a target of the slur.
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 100d
It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter Heaven.
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 100d
That’s hate speech! /s
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 100d
Jesus was a hater /s but no /s
Leviathan@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 100d
Hang the rich, redistribute their wealth.
Better?
DarkFuture@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 99d
Glad this guy is reminding us that the extremely wealthy can say shit so profoundly stupid you have to question their mental capacity. Really drives home that circumstances and greed can and do make stupid people rich.
Frenchgeek@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 99d
"Tax or axe, your choice."
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 100d
I was hurt by a racism in my worst place: my money.
CultLeader4Hire@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 100d
TAX THE RICH!
caboose2006@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 99d
Tax the rich is the moderate position.
It's tax or eat.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 99d
3rd option involves several varieties of removal from the mortal coil.
BloodMuffin@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 100d
Sektor@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 100d
It's afraid.
MisterD@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 100d
So being rich is a new race?
deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz · 7 pts · 100d
Always has been
VeryInterestingTable@jlai.lu · 10 pts · 100d
I agree. It is hateful. People hate your face and what your kind is doing to the world and to it's people.
Is it morally unjust though? Nope. You are the leeches of this world and unless forcibly removed you will destroy more and more lives, most likely the world.
Beint taxed fairly is the easy way.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 100d
HubertManne@piefed.social · 10 pts · 99d
its either tax or eat.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 99d
First tax, then eat.
BillyTheKid2@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 99d
Narrator: it turned out to be neither
nonentity@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 99d
Don’t eat shit.
Euthanise with tax, mulch when they persist.
plz1@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 100d
Luigi has entered the chat
finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 100d
Anyhow ... stiff shit. Pay your fucking taxes, you hoarding bastards.
nonentity@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 99d
Financial obesity is an existential threat to any society that tolerates it, and needs to cease being celebrated, rewarded, and positioned as an aspirational goal.
Corporations are the only ‘persons’ which should be subjected to capital punishment, but billionaires should be euthanised through taxation.
vikingtons@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 100d
"please shoot me"
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 100d
But then what will we do will all these cinder blocks?
SabinStargem@lemmy.today · 8 pts · 100d
Some slurs are worth speaking. "Beat the rich!", "Ax the rich!", and "Luigi time!" are wonderfully horrible things to say.
bomberesque@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 100d
Fuck off no it's not
hateisreality@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 99d
Fuck his cracker ass....
cheeseburger@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 100d
Die
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 100d
the same people think pedophelia is the same as being part of lgtbq+ crowd.
Reality_Suit@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 100d
The rich can always get rid of their money and then they will be like everyone else. They don't have to be wealthy.
collapse_already@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 100d
Wait till he hears what I want to do to the rich. He'll wish we were just taxing them.
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 100d
"Honey, the government has raised taxes, we'll have to cut the yacht and only keep two homes. And the cabin, of course."
"I want a divorce"
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe · 6 pts · 100d
Wait until he hears about "Eat the Rich."
wizblizz@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 100d
Its true, I do hate the rich, I want to see every last cent taken from them and given to the needy.
tomiant@piefed.social · 1 pts · 99d
Hey u wanty my numba
turdburglar@piefed.social · 5 pts · 100d
damn right. now pay your fuken share, jackass.
HasturInYellow@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 100d
GOOD.
Akasazh@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 100d
The only minority it's ethical to discriminate against
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.cafe · 5 pts · 100d
The wealthy are one of the few groups for which bullying is allowed, and encouraged.
Also Anti-Vaxxers.
Smaile@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 99d
good to know
Cargon@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 100d
This billiremoved looks like he'd make great chicken feed.
kalkulat@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 99d
Maybe it is ... but there's also some justice in it. At lot of rich people got that what by taking advantage of a lot of taxpayer-funded infrastructure (like Bezos, say). Others got that way by paying their workers as little as they could get away with. Others slowly buy up the competitions then sell shittier stuff for the same price.
When you add it all up, it's clear that they've gotten the system rigged in their favor for a looong time. It's payback time, muh-fuhs.
Canconda@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 100d
He's not wrong. I hate that SOB.
edit: lmao OP didn't get the joke. I hate the rich landlord asshole, not Mamdani.
tomiant@piefed.social · 0 pts · 99d
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kobjY6CZJN0
tomiant@piefed.social · 3 pts · 99d
OH GOD! I am so TIRED of hearing about how the "poors" struggle and about the "bad" rich people! I am poor but I plan to be rich, and I think it's DISGUSTING how the lower classes are trying to keep me down from from rising above them!!!
CompostMaterial@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 100d
OK, Boomer.
Reality_Suit@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 100d
Boo fucking hoo. The rich will kill us all.
tomiant@piefed.social · 2 pts · 99d
I miss mammoths.
Reality_Suit@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 94d
The rich will just hunt them into another extinction.
cinoreus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 96d
There's something poetic about the fact that this guy looks like lex luthor.
binux@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 99d
Doctor's 'pull it out by its head' slogan is 'just as hateful' as racial slurs, New York tick says
ReptilianCleric@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 98d
Yes it is hateful. That is absolutely true. It's also absolutely true that this hatred is based on choices and actions, not on a characteristic that someone was born with or did not have any choice over. So fuck him.
So all I would have to say to him is this: You want people to be proud of you, do something that is worthy of praise, you pathetic bastard. And hey! If you can't think of anything off the top of your head, there's plenty of mouths to feed and we can always build a guillotine.