When a person is an alcoholic, the word "alcoholic" is a negative stigma. When a beverage is alcoholic, it's just an adjective.

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cattywampas@lemmy.world · 41 pts · 123d (5 replies)

You have discovered homonyms

orenj@leminal.space · 6 pts · 122d

Homonyms should not exist, get a new sound. i am the #1 homophobe

Wait, not like that

JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 123d

🤯

surewhynotlem@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 123d (2 replies)

This bothers me. I looked it up and it's right, but I want it to be wrong for words that have the same root meaning. It's not like skate (the fish) and skate (the activity). You're an alcoholic because your blood is alcoholic. They're so closely related.

Does this mean every second definition of a word in the dictionary is also a homonym? How different does it need to be?

I hate English.

funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 123d

Does this mean every second definition of a word in the dictionary is also a homonym? How different does it need to be?

"homonym" == "same-name", so, yes by definition. it has the same name as another definition.

icanbrewmushrooms@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 122d

You're an alcoholic because your blood is alcoholic.

This is false, that's not what the noun 'alcoholic' means.

ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 123d (1 reply)

Being an alcoholic is a negative trait; a Martini cannot beat his wife in drunken rage.

foggy@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 123d

#NotAllAlcoholics 🍸

meme_historian@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 123d (1 reply)

Wine is an alcoholic beverage. Vodka is an alcoholic's beverage.

ICastFist@programming.dev · 0 pts · 122d

Wine is Not an Emulator

vandsjov@feddit.dk · 7 pts · 122d (2 replies)

When a person is an ass, the word "ass" is a negative stigma. When an animal is an ass, it's just a donkey.

ICastFist@programming.dev · 2 pts · 122d

A person can also have a nice ass

orenj@leminal.space · 1 pts · 122d

Or my cat, where it gains affectionate connotations

BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 123d

Context matters. Go figure

Uranus_Hz@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 123d (4 replies)

In Wisconsin “alcoholic” is only an adjective.

We don’t have alcoholics in the other sense here, just “professionals”.

fubbernuckin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 123d (3 replies)

JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 122d

Wow, look at the contrast between Nevada and its neighboring states Utah & Idaho. Imagine being an alcoholic in Nevada then crossing the border to a soda pop state. "I'm cured!" 🤣

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 122d

West Virginia surprised me, Wisconsin didn't

Uranus_Hz@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 121d

You would think that a state with such a high rate of heavy drinking coupled with pretty lenient DUI penalties would be a very dangerous place to drive, and yet Wisconsin ranks 34th (out of 50) for drunk driving deaths per capita.

Crackhappy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 122d

If you drink enough vodka, your blood becomes alcoholic.

hansolo@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 123d

If the adjective means, "has or pertaining to containing alcohol," then it's simply the chronic condition of a human choosing to be that way that draws the stigma.

Kolanaki@pawb.social · 3 pts · 123d

"Damn it, Beer, you're alcoholic!"

ICastFist@programming.dev · 3 pts · 122d (1 reply)

In portuguese, we have a different word for alcoholic person (alcoolatra), which helps avoid this

MIDItheKID@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 122d

And it's got "cool" right in the name!

village604@adultswim.fan · 3 pts · 122d (3 replies)

It's also nearly impossible to defend alcohol consumption without sounding like an alcoholic.

little_tuptup@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 122d (2 replies)

I'll take a stab at it.

It's a safe drinking supply. That's a big part of why humans drank it for thousands of years.

JennaR8r@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 122d

Sure before modern civilized times when the water supply was filthy with human waste, that's why everyone had to drink alcohol. Because they polluted their own water supply with shit. Glad science figured things out and got us back to drinking water again.

RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 122d

The idea that people drank beer because it was safer than water is a myth. They drank for the exact same reason we do today…you get a buzz. A side benefit was that beer had calories in a drinkable form. The safety of the drink, as in not full of harmful microbes, was an indirect but not primary benefit.

DaMonsterKnees@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 123d (1 reply)

Dammit DaMonsterKnees, you have Lupis.

Pat_Riot@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 123d

It's never lupus.

anakin78z@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 123d (1 reply)

One is a noun, the other an adjective, and as such they carry different meanings. For example, someone could eat a tart (baked good) that is not tart (sour).

yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 122d

Off a tart - pretty freakin' sweet

Treczoks@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 122d

No, on the beverage and food, it is a stigma, too.

radiofreebc@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 123d (1 reply)
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ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 123d

Sad but probably true... I was gonna say "I wouldn't know" but then I recalled my army days, lol.