Then I won't mention the other palette of stone and 1/2 yard of sand to cover the beams, make a porch and steps, and create a walkway on the poorly draining path to the fence gate.
Imagine, if you will, Bob Ross in a French artist's beret, holding his pale white palette 🎨. Scraping a thin roll of paint onto his palette knife, about to add a shoreline and a waterfall. He'd look pretty silly with a pallet, eh?
Oh geez, I just looked up the etymology (palete: shovel and paîllete: bunch of straw but both Old French) and discovered a "pallet" can also be a layer of blankets on the floor! I'm going to hazard a guess those blankets would have originally been in the hayloft or in a field on a heap of straw.
So hows the ground below? Looking at this picture, I'm wondering if there might be some uneven setting in effects. Or how much area have you covered with the stones regarding contact pressure to the ground?
The ground below was flattened and covered in cardboard last year. This year we pulled the cardboard, tilled and leveled the dirt, then a layer of leveling sand, tamped that down, layer of pine mulch for acidity, then the stones. The cottage stone is nowhere near uniform when it comes to height, so we knew the floor won't be level but hopefully the mulch breaking down will help with that some.
It's only $429 USD right now but we bought it in November of 2024 and full price back then was $1,200. I'm not sure if the huge discount is a good sign or not. I guess I'll know after the next big storm.
Reviews mention it being hard to assemble and there were some definite errors in the instructions but we were able to make sense of it. The order some things are in didn't make sense when we'd finished; for example, adding corner supports was one of the last steps, but would have provided stability throughout the build if done sooner.
There is one review that says a thunderstorm destroyed theirs, but looking at the picture it looks like they just built it in the yard, no foundation or anything to brace it or weigh it down.
It's a polycarbonate frame, so it doesn't weigh much. With that review in mind I'm glad I did the foundation and will be reinforcing it per some suggestions from another lemming including caulking the window seams.
It's 12' x 8' x 7' (3.66m x 2.44m 2.13m). I wish it was just a bit taller so the roof at the sides was taller than I am, but then it would need to have longer front, back, and sides; too big for the space at that point.
Dang! That's all good info thank you! I wonder if 2 could be combined lol. Or at least lined up on a row. We had the dome shape tunnel with the plastic cover that was 10x20, but again it couldn't stand up to wind, long term. Hail, however, was great because the plastic tarp had give.
You could do them back to back. It would take some brackets and a little handiwork, but I think it's quite doable.
Our local nursery uses hoop houses for their large greenhouses but the frame and plastic they use are really hefty. We're in the midwest so we get tornado strength winds in spring and fall, but I do not see what they have to go through after storms. Reasonably sure they wouldn't be using something they had to replace or repair several times a year.
Hi. I don't know much about farming or construction, so excuse my silly question. Why make all the walls from the transparent material? Wouldn't it be better to make at least the north and south walls out of something more durable?
We are in 6b. Nice spring, nice fall, and two culling seasons for the elderly and infirm: boiling humid hot culling season, frigid snowy cold culling season. We get from -15 F (-16.1 C) to 100+ F (37.78 C) with humidity 63-74%, 69% average.
It's going to be a year round home for Kevin, our bird of paradise plant (named after Kevin from the movie Up).
After growing rosemary and basil outdoors in the past, I like the idea having them as perrenials instead of annuals, so we'll probably have some of those.
Here is a partial list of food plants we're planning to try:
peppers
tomatoes
onions
potted avocado and lime trees
cabbage
lettuce
cilantro
and things that grow fast and are used often or are easily gifted would be ideal, so if anyone has ideas, I'm all ears
No clear goals other than propagating local moss from my yard and seeding the pine mulch between the stones with it. Probably going to use some in gift mini-terrariums. Also going to replace as much lawn as possible with moss, among other things.
I have some hinges to install that will open the windows when it hits a certain temperature and close when it drops below another threshold. They're pretty neat, they operate on heat to expand and contract. We're also considering a container pond but I don't know if that would help with cooling.
Also running a hose for watering but we're still considering watering systems.
63 Comments
QueenFern@lemmy.zip · 40 pts · 94d
I'm getting too excited about this dullness
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 21 pts · 94d
Then I won't mention the other palette of stone and 1/2 yard of sand to cover the beams, make a porch and steps, and create a walkway on the poorly draining path to the fence gate.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 94d
I think you mean pallet. Unless it's all about the subtle nuances of color in the stones and sand. Which I do see, and are nice.
Pallet has the 2 wood slats (ll) in the middle.
Palette has the artsy-fartsy French "ette" at the end.
Palate has "ate" to remind you it's about your mouth.
Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 2 pts · 94d
That's funny, in french both are palettes
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 93d
And this is one of the times knowing french has thwarted my english spelling.
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 93d
Imagine, if you will, Bob Ross in a French artist's beret, holding his pale white palette 🎨. Scraping a thin roll of paint onto his palette knife, about to add a shoreline and a waterfall. He'd look pretty silly with a pallet, eh?
Oh geez, I just looked up the etymology (palete: shovel and paîllete: bunch of straw but both Old French) and discovered a "pallet" can also be a layer of blankets on the floor! I'm going to hazard a guess those blankets would have originally been in the hayloft or in a field on a heap of straw.
prettybunnys@piefed.social · 2 pts · 93d
No, you’re a palette
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 93d
Yeah, pallet. I will have 3 empty ones for making planter boxes or something else.
NotEasyBeingGreen@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 94d
Is a half yard like 1/14⅖th of a centner? 😉
(Sorry, I find ye olde English measurements endlessly amusing!)
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 93d
I forgot that the UK and US are the only ones using yards.
0.3823 cubic meters for the civilized world.
VolumetricShitCompressor@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 94d
So hows the ground below? Looking at this picture, I'm wondering if there might be some uneven setting in effects. Or how much area have you covered with the stones regarding contact pressure to the ground?
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 93d
The ground below was flattened and covered in cardboard last year. This year we pulled the cardboard, tilled and leveled the dirt, then a layer of leveling sand, tamped that down, layer of pine mulch for acidity, then the stones. The cottage stone is nowhere near uniform when it comes to height, so we knew the floor won't be level but hopefully the mulch breaking down will help with that some.
BehindetheClouds@reddthat.com · 24 pts · 94d
Careful Icarus... This is almost not too dull
fartographer@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 94d
unitedwithme@lemmy.today · 9 pts · 94d
How much? How big? Where from?
We're windy by us and have gone through several aluminum and steel tube cheepy greenhouses because they eventually collapse. My wife would love this!
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 94d
It's only $429 USD right now but we bought it in November of 2024 and full price back then was $1,200. I'm not sure if the huge discount is a good sign or not. I guess I'll know after the next big storm.
Reviews mention it being hard to assemble and there were some definite errors in the instructions but we were able to make sense of it. The order some things are in didn't make sense when we'd finished; for example, adding corner supports was one of the last steps, but would have provided stability throughout the build if done sooner.
There is one review that says a thunderstorm destroyed theirs, but looking at the picture it looks like they just built it in the yard, no foundation or anything to brace it or weigh it down.
It's a polycarbonate frame, so it doesn't weigh much. With that review in mind I'm glad I did the foundation and will be reinforcing it per some suggestions from another lemming including caulking the window seams.
It's 12' x 8' x 7' (3.66m x 2.44m 2.13m). I wish it was just a bit taller so the roof at the sides was taller than I am, but then it would need to have longer front, back, and sides; too big for the space at that point.
Got it from Walmart: https://www.walmart.com/ip/NETAJE-12-x8-Outdoor-Greenhouse-Walk-in-Polycarbonate-Green-House-with-Aluminum-Frame-for-Backyard/13698363162
unitedwithme@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 94d
Dang! That's all good info thank you! I wonder if 2 could be combined lol. Or at least lined up on a row. We had the dome shape tunnel with the plastic cover that was 10x20, but again it couldn't stand up to wind, long term. Hail, however, was great because the plastic tarp had give.
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 93d
You could do them back to back. It would take some brackets and a little handiwork, but I think it's quite doable.
Our local nursery uses hoop houses for their large greenhouses but the frame and plastic they use are really hefty. We're in the midwest so we get tornado strength winds in spring and fall, but I do not see what they have to go through after storms. Reasonably sure they wouldn't be using something they had to replace or repair several times a year.
unitedwithme@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 93d
We're in the Midwest too, so I feel your pain with the winds and weather. I'm close to Chicago and we've taken a beating lately.
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 93d
Yeah, we have a real roller coaster.
tankplanker@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 94d
Normally to make them taller you build a dwarf wall either out of wood or my preference out of brick and then mount it onto the wall.
Some greenhouses come with an optional rectangular metal frame you can seat it on that makes it a bit higher, but brick is the best long term option.
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 93d
A brick or stacked stone layer would look nice, too. I'm guessing you mean brick and mortar or just stacked brick?
tankplanker@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 93d
Yeah brick and mortar, but stacked stones good if its stone enough for load bearing
PixeIOrange@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 94d
Is it for weed?
anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 93d
Just the one weed actually
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 93d
No, I have my father in law and a friend that lives nearby that both have tent setups in their basements for that. ;)
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 94d
Well there we are then.
neidu3@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 94d
More like.... transparenthouse. Badum-tss
VAK@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 93d
Hi. I don't know much about farming or construction, so excuse my silly question. Why make all the walls from the transparent material? Wouldn't it be better to make at least the north and south walls out of something more durable?
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 93d
This was a greenhouse kit so I used the materials in it. Greenhouses usually have all clear panels to let in as much sun as possible and trap heat.
VAK@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 93d
Thanks
shalafi@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 93d
South is your best light in the Northern Hemisphere, you sure don't want to cut that off.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 93d
photosynthesis
ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 94d
Ooooooh, fancy! Good job. 👍
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 94d
Thank you!
Reverendender@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 94d
What zone are you in?
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 93d
We are in 6b. Nice spring, nice fall, and two culling seasons for the elderly and infirm: boiling humid hot culling season, frigid snowy cold culling season. We get from -15 F (-16.1 C) to 100+ F (37.78 C) with humidity 63-74%, 69% average.
tensorpudding@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 94d
She's a real beauty, what will you grow in it?
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 94d
I want a shelf rack for moss propagation.
It's going to be a year round home for Kevin, our bird of paradise plant (named after Kevin from the movie Up).
After growing rosemary and basil outdoors in the past, I like the idea having them as perrenials instead of annuals, so we'll probably have some of those.
Here is a partial list of food plants we're planning to try:
Hello_there@fedia.io · 3 pts · 94d
Asparagus? Anything you enjoy pickled?
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 93d
Asparagus would be good. I think it takes at least until the second year to be able to harvest, but that's ok.
tensorpudding@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 94d
Sounds great! Best of luck to you!
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 94d
Thank you
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 94d
You do watermelons? Knowing what zone you're in might help me give suggestions (for example, I'm in 9a)
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 93d
Watermelons are doable outdoors here and that's a great idea for one of the patches we're considering turning into a food garden.
zelahdieliekeis@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 94d
Wait, what are you doing with the moss?
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 93d
great way to find tartigrades
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 93d
No clear goals other than propagating local moss from my yard and seeding the pine mulch between the stones with it. Probably going to use some in gift mini-terrariums. Also going to replace as much lawn as possible with moss, among other things.
Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 94d
Ancent seeds.
.........wait. This isn't Stardew Valley!
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 94d
Hello_there@fedia.io · 2 pts · 94d
Hemp?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 94d
Ooo that's way prettier than my first iteration was going to be. I just love hoop houses
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 93d
A hoop house would have been much easier! I looked into geodesic dome greenhouses as well but went with a kit for my first.
I've been holding on to plans for the grow room below in the hopes of one day building it.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 93d
All that will do is feed raccoons and squirrels. Not dull enough.
A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 94d
Gonna run anything in there?
I wired up some for a couple schools a few summers back and wanted to DIE
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 94d
I have some hinges to install that will open the windows when it hits a certain temperature and close when it drops below another threshold. They're pretty neat, they operate on heat to expand and contract. We're also considering a container pond but I don't know if that would help with cooling.
Also running a hose for watering but we're still considering watering systems.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 93d
Careful, those can let vegan critters in.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 94d
You want a drip watering system.
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 93d
Thanks for confirming my suspicion and top contender.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 94d
The base ring of wood is ten times as substantial as the rest of the building...
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 93d
Absolutely. And that will make it easy to reinforce the frame should it prove necessary whichI suspect it will.
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 94d
It looks like you could just add another layer of wooden foundation at the bottom if you want some more headroom.
That might require some small steps to make entry and exit safer though.
stringere@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 93d
That's a good idea! The nice thing is I'm pretty sure it would be doable with the greenhouse in place using jacks.