If born on the island of Lesbos then, yes, definitely… if born somewhere else then the answer to this question might depend on where you get your definition of words.
Love is love, whatever, but sometimes labels can do damage.
Trans status is about gender identity; gay/lesbian/bisexual is about sexual orientation.
So, a trans woman (MtF) who likes women is a lesbian, because she identifies as a woman who likes women. Her sex identified at birth is not considered a legitimate factor. Likewise, a trans woman (MtF) who likes men is not a gay man, she is a straight woman.
Slight correction: the contemporaneous usage of the word lesbian in the queer community does not specifically say it is wlw, but that it is femme/non-masculine attraction to femininity/non-masculinity. In that sense it may be more closely aligned with being sapphic than strictly wlw.
Sex, gender, expression, and orientation are separate dimensions and can vary independently. While there is coupling and correlation, they are distinct
"lesbian" inherently couples gender identity and sexual preference, no? Language and identity are certainly malleable, but it would be news to me than "lesbian" got the "gay" treatment (where the meaning did change from "homosexual man" to "homosexual or bisexual", depending on the social circle).
And even within that, T4T is a common preference categorization as well, whether it's for inherent attraction or just practical reasons. There are terms that prefer solely to the target gender so for instance I'm androphilic (vs gynophilic) mostly in my romantic aspect. I don't mind both sexually, I've just found women's personalities to be difficult to deal with / have difficulty dealing with me romantically (practical preference). Now, gender wise I'm roughly here:
♀️<----------|×--------->♂️
And my visual preference for a partner is about
♀️<------|---|------|---->♂️
And my personality preference is about
♀️<---------||---|------>♂️
so really CAN I be gay? Especially if I was right on the line there. I will say hubs seems to prefer roughly (in both aspects):
Technically yes but its not allowed trans women who aren't bi are reprocessed for nutrients its kinda gross but an emerging social murder vore kink is throwing off the numbers here its even worse than the sexuality not categorized by sexologists fiasco of the mid 20th century
47 Comments
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 153 pts · 97d
Yes, women can be lesbians.
Klear@piefed.world · 46 pts · 97d
As a treat.
Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 97d
Or full-time, or even both
Nutteman@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 96d
They can have a little slommy
Forgottengoldfish@lemmy.world · 78 pts · 97d
Yes
Karl@literature.cafe · 28 pts · 97d
Ok
BucketBong@p.hobo.social · 31 pts · 97d
We can close the post now.
Karl@literature.cafe · 11 pts · 97d
I guess so
SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 68 pts · 97d
ccunning@lemmy.world · 67 pts · 97d
Wait.
Are you saying cisgender women can be lesbians too?
SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 45 pts · 97d
kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 97d
Ah, but were they lesbians? Did you make sure they weren't bi or pan?
SharkWeek@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 97d
venusaur@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 97d
What did you check?
Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 19 pts · 97d
Their lesbian license, obviously
ada@piefed.blahaj.zone · 46 pts · 97d
About a third of all trans women are as a matter of fact
Noodle07@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 97d
About 2/3 of Lemmy as well /s
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 97d
That's just blahaj.zone .
Karl@literature.cafe · 7 pts · 97d
Thats interesting.
chocrates@piefed.world · 35 pts · 97d
Trans is their sexual identity and lesbian is their sexual preference. They are not mutually exclusive.
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 10 pts · 97d
Pretty sure their sexual (or gender) identity is "woman". The trans thing is usually more a stumbling block than an identity.
chocrates@piefed.world · 5 pts · 97d
Yes you are right
WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 96d
Gender identity*
Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works · 25 pts · 97d
If born on the island of Lesbos then, yes, definitely… if born somewhere else then the answer to this question might depend on where you get your definition of words.
Love is love, whatever, but sometimes labels can do damage.
owenfromcanada@lemmy.ca · 45 pts · 97d
Otherwise it's just sparkling homosexuality
SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social · 7 pts · 97d
Woman*
*lesbian_styleThat's a bit cumbersome, isn't it? I'm fine with "lesbian woman", no matter where they're from 💖
Oh my, I'm having a hard time setting the markdown right...
applebusch@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 97d
If they're not from the Lesbos region pf greece it's only sparkling homosexuality
Tedesche@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 97d
Trans status is about gender identity; gay/lesbian/bisexual is about sexual orientation.
So, a trans woman (MtF) who likes women is a lesbian, because she identifies as a woman who likes women. Her sex identified at birth is not considered a legitimate factor. Likewise, a trans woman (MtF) who likes men is not a gay man, she is a straight woman.
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 97d
nightmare786@leminal.space · 11 pts · 97d
they call it a transbian
daggermoon@piefed.world · 11 pts · 97d
Yes.
queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 97d
And how.
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 97d
RoddyStiggs@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 96d
Transgender women are women.
Women who love women exclusively are lesbians.
So, yes.
erev@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 96d
Slight correction: the contemporaneous usage of the word lesbian in the queer community does not specifically say it is wlw, but that it is femme/non-masculine attraction to femininity/non-masculinity. In that sense it may be more closely aligned with being sapphic than strictly wlw.
GarboDog@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 97d
Yeah- if women love other women you’d typically call that lesbian coded.
webp@mander.xyz · 7 pts · 97d
Can women be lesbian 🤔
ImgurRefugee114@reddthat.com · 6 pts · 97d
Sex, gender, expression, and orientation are separate dimensions and can vary independently. While there is coupling and correlation, they are distinct
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 2 pts · 97d
"lesbian" inherently couples gender identity and sexual preference, no? Language and identity are certainly malleable, but it would be news to me than "lesbian" got the "gay" treatment (where the meaning did change from "homosexual man" to "homosexual or bisexual", depending on the social circle).
ThunderQueen@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 97d
rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 1 pts · 97d
yeah
Apytele@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 97d
And even within that, T4T is a common preference categorization as well, whether it's for inherent attraction or just practical reasons. There are terms that prefer solely to the target gender so for instance I'm androphilic (vs gynophilic) mostly in my romantic aspect. I don't mind both sexually, I've just found women's personalities to be difficult to deal with / have difficulty dealing with me romantically (practical preference). Now, gender wise I'm roughly here:
♀️<----------|×--------->♂️
And my visual preference for a partner is about
♀️<------|---|------|---->♂️
And my personality preference is about
♀️<---------||---|------>♂️
so really CAN I be gay? Especially if I was right on the line there. I will say hubs seems to prefer roughly (in both aspects):
♀️<--|-------|-----|---->♂️
which is pretty neatly bisexual.
thechosen2nd@piefed.social · 6 pts · 97d
The Ancient Pact of the Covenant allows it.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 2 pts · 97d
On the blood of our fathers. On the blood of our sons...
WeLoveCastingSpellz@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 96d
Yes cuddling with my gf right now
Diva@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 97d
yes
tanisnikana@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 96d
Do I have to get a divorce if it comes out that the answer is no?
ada@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 96d
No, you start throwing bricks
Sunsofold@lemmings.world · 1 pts · 96d
People are currently fighting over who gets to definitively answer that question.
youcantreadthis@quokk.au · -4 pts · 97d
Technically yes but its not allowed trans women who aren't bi are reprocessed for nutrients its kinda gross but an emerging social murder vore kink is throwing off the numbers here its even worse than the sexuality not categorized by sexologists fiasco of the mid 20th century
Az_1@piefed.zip · 9 pts · 97d
What
youcantreadthis@quokk.au · 7 pts · 97d
Social murder aggregate vore kink what part of that do you not understand
kylie_kraft@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 97d
Az_1@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 97d
Oh, now it makes sense