Within the past 30 years has there ever been a truly 90 to 100 percent original movie? Not taking from someone else or remake or something else? Hell even original music??
Adding onto that, there are only something like 7 general plot lines and 12 character archetypes. Don't quote me on those numbers; I might have them backward or off-by-one. Read enough books (or watch enough movies) and before long, you've seen it all.
And to extend the above comment to music, there is a finite number of acoustically "acceptable" chord progressions. There are even fewer pleasing chord progressions. Basically, there's no such thing as "new" Western music. The most popular chord progression goes by a bunch of names, but I learned it as the "Heart and Soul chords," I-vi-IV-V. There is a comedy music act that I can't recall who demonstrates this beautifully and humorously.
What's your criteria for "100% original"? At the finest level of detail, if it contains dialog, it'll have some word in it that was used in another movie.
As for music, probably not, because music is just that much older than movies. And yet, we love our music. Always find stuff that seems original.
Thus we see that movies lacking originality may not even be a problem, if not for hollywood beat for beat copying their own movies from 30 years or less ago. Over and ocer again. With the same name and everything.
Maybe we should be more interested in when someone selects pre existing themes but restitches them together into an unfamiliar form.
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ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 45 pts · 99d
There hasn’t been any art in thousands of years that hasn’t taken from someone else.
JayleneSlide@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 99d
Adding onto that, there are only something like 7 general plot lines and 12 character archetypes. Don't quote me on those numbers; I might have them backward or off-by-one. Read enough books (or watch enough movies) and before long, you've seen it all.
And to extend the above comment to music, there is a finite number of acoustically "acceptable" chord progressions. There are even fewer pleasing chord progressions. Basically, there's no such thing as "new" Western music. The most popular chord progression goes by a bunch of names, but I learned it as the "Heart and Soul chords," I-vi-IV-V. There is a comedy music act that I can't recall who demonstrates this beautifully and humorously.
Edit: Found it! Axis of Awesome, "4 Chords" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOlDewpCfZQ
Davel23@fedia.io · 21 pts · 99d
Nothing is created in a vacuum.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 99d
Being John Malkovich
MycelialMass@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 99d
Sorry but John Malkovich existed before the movie. Derivative.
s38b35M5@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 99d
We are friends in another life. Ty.
BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 99d
Fuck, I was coming into this as a No, but you converted me. I feel like that one definitely hits the 90% original criteria.
hypnicjerk@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 99d
the character isn't even original smh
MrSelfDestruct@lemmy.zip · 15 pts · 99d
Nothing is completely original.
notsosure@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 99d
True art always builds on the work of predecessor.
Shadow@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 99d
Plenty, the first that comes to mind is Everything everywhere all at once.
Patnou@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 99d
What about Primer?
Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 99d
That for sure and Happy Death Day! Hell or High Water is another that is stand alone.
LastYearsIrritant@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 99d
Happy Death Day is a standard time loop movie with a twist.
It's basically Groundhog Day with a horror twist.
Great movie, but not that original.
davidgro@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 99d
That one is indeed also pretty original.
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 99d
This is a reminder that just because it's new to you does not mean it's new.
MrSelfDestruct@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 99d
This was the first movie I thought of.
mech@feddit.org · 8 pts · 99d
Flow (2024)
Rubber (2010)
And thousands of others.
Hollywood doesn't make all movies in the world.
glimse@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 99d
I agree with you but even Hollywood has made original movies. OP is willfully blind lol
Patnou@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 99d
Is Rubber the tire movie?
mech@feddit.org · 1 pts · 99d
Yes
FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 99d
It's almost impossible. Creators are inspired by other creators and people should stop acting like that's a bad thing
jordanlund@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 99d
Everything Everywhere All At Once
kibblebits@quokk.au · 8 pts · 99d
That’s got a crap load of references. It’s basically one big reference. Heck, the “Raccacoonie” subplot is a deliberate parody of Ratatouille.
Music:
I think you just like the movie and didn’t see it for what it was… or wasn’t.
SarahFromOz@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 99d
The Social Network has an original sound track by Trent Reznor (fairly sure) and was different because it was about a new phenomena (at the time)
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 99d
What's your criteria for "100% original"? At the finest level of detail, if it contains dialog, it'll have some word in it that was used in another movie.
Uranus_Hz@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 99d
Memento
yessikg@fedia.io · 1 pts · 94d
Somebody doesn't watch indies
Patnou@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 94d
Maybe I should have said major movies
yessikg@fedia.io · 1 pts · 94d
How do you define major? By budget? By studio?
Patnou@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 94d
yes and yes.
FinjaminPoach@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 99d
Mr Roosevelt
As for music, probably not, because music is just that much older than movies. And yet, we love our music. Always find stuff that seems original.
Thus we see that movies lacking originality may not even be a problem, if not for hollywood beat for beat copying their own movies from 30 years or less ago. Over and ocer again. With the same name and everything.
Maybe we should be more interested in when someone selects pre existing themes but restitches them together into an unfamiliar form.
Banana@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 99d
Loop Track - please go in blind
swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 99d
Angine de Poitrine are pretty original, check em out!
jonesy@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 95d
I don't disagree but they're not making movies (yet).
swab148@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 95d
Some other people had mentioned music 🤷♂️