Designing Firefox for the future

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/new-firefox-design/

cross-posted from: https://mander.xyz/post/52390229

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umbrella@lemmy.ml · 42 pts · 91d (3 replies)
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sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al · 11 pts · 91d (1 reply)

Not sure I'd be okay trusting designers to solve fingerprinting.

umbrella@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 91d
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Kristof12@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 43d

Anything actually useful done to firefox? idk

Dirk@lemmy.ml · 29 pts · 91d (12 replies)

I hate everything about "modern design" ... Rounded corners, gradients, blur and transparency effects, fading in/out ... fuck that! I want my browser to look and feel like the rest of my UI.

Gnergy@piefed.europe.pub · 20 pts · 91d (1 reply)

oddly enough all these things have repeatedly appeared, disappeared, and reappeared in my lifetime, e.g. titlebars on Windows became transparent with Vista, then stopped being so in, I think, Windows 8?

Dirk@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 90d

Yes, it’s fortunately just a trend. Just like websites. At one point tiny 10px font for main text content and absurdly small navigation buttons were seen as “modern”, nowadays huge empty spaces and 30px fonts are the norm.

Or Javascript vs no Javascript, this also changes every few years.

I just hope this ugly mess will just be the annoying design fad of the year.

eager_eagle@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 91d (1 reply)

well, the rest of my UI has rounded corners, transparency, and blur 🤷‍♂️

Dirk@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 90d

I’m so sorry for you 😆

thingsiplay@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 91d (6 replies)

This is basically what I was thinking. I customized Firefox to be less rounded with sharp edges, single color and much denser. I don't know why every application is treated like a new abstract art (off course I'm exaggerating here).

Dirk@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 90d (5 replies)

That’s mine (resized to not have a huge screenshot file)

Custom fully custom labwc theme, customized GTK theme, modified Firefox (userChrome.css)

Thunar for reference.

Anything more and I’d feel super distracted and annoyed.

thingsiplay@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 90d (1 reply)

I was hoping for screenshot sharing, lol. Yours look similar familiar, I wouldn't be surprised if we shared in the past whenever we had this topic before.

Mine evolves from time to time. Sometimes I learn something new from new screenshots and incorporate that. One such recent "implementation" is the Bookmarks Toolbar. I created a top level directory named "Favorites" and put all quick access bookmarks in there and moved the toolbar to the same level of tabs, to save me an entire extra line of bar. My current Firefox looks like this:

I'm on KDE, the titlebar is disabled for all windows (I'm an auto tiler person). BTW I'm not sure how to get rid off the rounded corners of the window, but that is not Firefox specific.

Dirk@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 89d

Yours look similar familiar, I wouldn’t be surprised if we shared in the past whenever we had this topic before.

I did and I will continue doing so! 😇

Kynsey@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 90d (2 replies)
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Dirk@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 89d (1 reply)

There is clearly a lot going on in your UI! It’s always great to see how people customize their environment and funny how corporations like Mozilla think they know better.

I don’t mean like minimalism. I’m clearly more maximalist in my themeing than you lol.

Oh, my theming is maximalist. Especially labwc: It’s 100% custom from ground up for theme and configuration. Not one single bit was taken over from the default configuration. It’s just the result that is minimalist 😆

Same with Firefox: I override almost all of the tabs styling with custom configuration.

Kynsey@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 89d
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otter@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 91d

I like some of these things, but I'd be ok with them being optional toggles. I remember seeing a Firefox fork with extensive customization options for the UI

Personally

  • rounded corners make it easier to see what is contained in what. It gives more information than just having everything meet at corners
  • gradients and blurs match the rest of my UI 😄
SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 90d (6 replies)

Make it do less, a LOT faster, using less resources, with good extension support.

That is a good browsers only job.

tb_@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 88d (3 replies)

If that were the entire truth, neither brave nor opera would be as popular as they are.

SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 88d (2 replies)

In my assessment, all browsers suck badly at performance and resource usage at the moment.

How does a 25mb website content result in 350mb of ram usage for that tab? And why would it not render basically instantly.

I am old enough to remember in the early 2000s, when page loads were near instant. Even for large e-commerce and social media websites.

BigTechMustBurn@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 87d (1 reply)

Because in the 2000s websites were primarily HTML and CSS and not the Javascript abominations we have today.

SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 87d

Its not so much the JavaScript, its the layers and layers of JavaScript libraries that are never optimized or trimmed for purpose.

racoon@lemmy.ml · -3 pts · 90d (1 reply)
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SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 90d

You might want to add a little /s there.

But yes, decisions made by people who dont pay for their own hardware.

novafunc@discuss.tchncs.de · 13 pts · 91d

Glad that compact mode will be officially supported again. Makes such as big difference on a laptop screen.

Krafting@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 91d

As long as Kit is used everywhere, I'm up for it

sudoer777@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 90d

They probably haven't fulfilled their RAM usage quota yet

hexagonwin@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 90d

oh fuck no please don't break my userchrome(desktop) and muscle memory(android)....

Blisterexe@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 91d

New compact mode is great, I might be in the minority here but I like the new design.

PieMePlenty@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 90d

I just wish the mobile app had an ability to display more than two bookmarks at a time without the need to scroll and click through menus to get to them. Desktop app has a bookmarks toolbar, the mobile equivalent sucks.

HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 90d

Greek Stays

Glad the translators weren't laid off to cut costs /s

NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 2 pts · 90d

Didn’t think they could make the tags any less clear and contrasted than they did last time, so I guess they sure showed me.

moopet@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 89d

This reads like such corporate nonsense tbh

Hadriscus@jlai.lu · 1 pts · 89d

I think Mozilla has lost the plot

thingsiplay@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 91d

They chance the look again. I have to say, the new look looks better than the current default. But it's not for me and I will heavily customize the look anyway. Hopefully my current customization works as it is and I have nothing to do...

The_Cunt_of_Monte_Cristo@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 89d

Do whatever you want but make Firefox stop draining my battery on Android.

Squizzy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 88d

I find firefox more cumbersome than ever to use. Small things like expanding menu optionslook great but practically add steps to interactions.

I cant intuitively make a bookmark a shortcut, it just happens and if I edit it, it gets pinned. I want a list of favourites but instead there are dozens of reddit variations suggested because of browsing habits instead of accepting my r/all shortcut as being my entry point.

I can select always desktopmode but not choose what domains it should only do it for.

I hate chrome but it works better, I had to use it for work and it became the default. It is am unfortunate slog to degoogle whereas before I enjoyed being provacy focused because it got me a better product.