New Zealand government introduces anti-transgender legislation

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2026/05/29/byno-m29.html

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Jhex@lemmy.world · 70 pts · 89d (1 reply)

If the fucking far right dedicated a tenth of the effort they put towards ruining LGBT people's lives into any thing good for society, we would have cured cancer, solved inequality and conquered the milky way.

Their obsession with other people's junk is incredible!

IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 89d

"But I don't want to cute cancer, I want to bully queer people"

SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 23 pts · 89d

Spreading around the world.

Corvidae@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 89d (4 replies)

How will the legislation deal with humans born with atypical genitalia?

ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml · 22 pts · 89d

Selective enforcement

ada@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 12 pts · 88d

It won't. Which is the point. The goal is to fuck everyone over who doesn't fit in their neat little boxes and to distract from their other political choices

minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 89d

It won't.

powerstruggle@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 89d
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Chaunticleer@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 89d

Hell on earth is a thing you can build

homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 89d

So sad to see this in New Zealand.

Professorozone@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 88d (2 replies)

Not New Zealand. I love New Zealand.

TRAHR@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 88d (1 reply)

NZ has been run by right wingers for a while, it’s not that great a place.

Professorozone@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 86d

Well I didn't really deal with the government much when I was there. My experience with the locals made the Canadians look grumpy by comparison.

minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 89d (14 replies)

Why is it bad that man and women be defined by physiology? Are there other words that mean what the definitions in the article are? What are they?

xytaruka@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 88d

Because trans people are intentionally going against their physiology.

Rigidly insisting that they are legally what they are pushing against is dehumanizing and will be used to discriminate against a group of people that is already a target for hate crime and profiling by law enforcement.

BrilliantantTurd4361@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 88d (7 replies)

Why is it necessary?

phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 88d

Distractions

These types usually have the real plan of just straling robbing and defrauding and it helps to have lots of distractions lying around. Exhibit a: trump. All he does is distractions from him fucking little girls, distractions from him robbing the US government empty, distractions...

ieGod@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 88d (1 reply)

There is one area where that matters and it's health care. Men and women's treatments and care can differ substantially. It's important to get it right. Gender affirming care/medicine is just a subset of that, for any individual.

But otherwise yeah it doesn't matter.

SpacetimeMachine@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 88d

Biological Sex isn't changed with gender, and can be considered separately by medical staff.

minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 88d (3 replies)

Does it have to be necessary?

BrilliantantTurd4361@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 88d (2 replies)

You've come full circle

minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 88d (1 reply)

Yeah, that's the point. Why force people to change what it already means if it isn't necessary?

BrilliantantTurd4361@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 88d

Trans people have always existed so your argument would include, not exclude them.

GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca · 3 pts · 88d (4 replies)

As the other poster said, what does it matter. Also, there's this:

Beyond XX and XY

You may have to disable Javascript or go to an archive site to read it.

minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 88d (3 replies)

Why does what matter?

GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca · 4 pts · 88d (2 replies)

Why does ambiguous intersex characteristics matter for defining binary genders? Why indeed?

minorkeys@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 88d (1 reply)

Well fuck you too. I just wanted you to clarify what you were talking about.

GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca · 7 pts · 88d

"Why can't we describe something as just A or B?"

"Here's an article about A, B, and a whole bunch of things in between."

"WDYM?"

If you couldn't look at the little chart in that article and figure out the whole thing is about how gender isn't that simple, that's on you. As a side note, most things are more complicated than people who aren't in the field think they are. When that field is biology or society, it is almost always much more complicated than people think they are. If you don't want to take the time to educate yourself on those things before forming your opinion, it will probably be the simple, and wrong, answer.