implied doesnt mean required. you can think what you want but nothing in that statement means one of them will be a worm farmer. and no I didnt miss any details. you just think an implication means fact. which it doesnt. i suspect you're often mislead by people exploiting this bias you have.
in order for you to be correct they would have had to state the selection mechanism for the group being considered. since they didnt, its ambiguous and you cannot infer anything from the statement.
You assumed wrong, when they provided all the information you needed.
It could be what you’re saying, but you would need to intentionally ignore the context of “which one”.
It’s funny you speak of bias, when you’re the one being biased and assuming based of everything being “randomly selected”. I read what the person said and parsed it, you didn’t.
It’s like having a police lineup where one person is a crook, it’s not some survey lmfao.
A lineup (like a police lineup) is exactly that. One is the suspect and the rest are there to ensure that you can accurately identify the actual suspect to be used later in court.
You realize that a police line is literally random selection (including the perp) right? thats kind of the point. There is no guarentee that the 'perp' is the actual criminal despite the officers or the witnesses opinions on the matter.
You're right to point out that the alleged perpetrator might not in fact be related to the case. You're wrong to call at least this one person random, police doesn't always appoints the perpetrator at random
And that's why just reporting to give the right guess most of the time isn't enough. We need a full confusion matrix to evaluate any classification skill :D
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kbal@fedia.io · 67 pts · 83d
You can probably get to 99.9% accuracy by just saying "none of those guys run a worm farm" every time.
doomslang@lemmy.zip · 20 pts · 83d
I was assuming it wasn't a setup.
jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 83d
and it wouldnt be. the chances of 1 of 10 randomly picked individuals running a worm farm is very low.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 83d
They never said random.
kbal@fedia.io · 3 pts · 83d
I was assuming that most scenarios where you're asked to spot the worm farmer are bogus.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 83d
That's just what Big Worm wants you to think.
jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 83d
they never said a preselected group either. ah the ambiguities of the english language =)
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 83d
They did, it’s implied, heavily.
Asking “which one” means one is.
It’s not ambiguous, you just missed important detials.
jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -1 pts · 83d
implied doesnt mean required. you can think what you want but nothing in that statement means one of them will be a worm farmer. and no I didnt miss any details. you just think an implication means fact. which it doesnt. i suspect you're often mislead by people exploiting this bias you have.
in order for you to be correct they would have had to state the selection mechanism for the group being considered. since they didnt, its ambiguous and you cannot infer anything from the statement.
SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 83d
It’s okay to admit you were wrong.
You assumed wrong, when they provided all the information you needed.
It could be what you’re saying, but you would need to intentionally ignore the context of “which one”.
It’s funny you speak of bias, when you’re the one being biased and assuming based of everything being “randomly selected”. I read what the person said and parsed it, you didn’t.
It’s like having a police lineup where one person is a crook, it’s not some survey lmfao.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 83d
A lineup (like a police lineup) is exactly that. One is the suspect and the rest are there to ensure that you can accurately identify the actual suspect to be used later in court.
jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 82d
You realize that a police line is literally random selection (including the perp) right? thats kind of the point. There is no guarentee that the 'perp' is the actual criminal despite the officers or the witnesses opinions on the matter.
CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 82d
"Literally a random selection except for the person not randomly selected"
Lol you have to be joking, right?
sukhmel@programming.dev · 0 pts · 82d
You're right to point out that the alleged perpetrator might not in fact be related to the case. You're wrong to call at least this one person random, police doesn't always appoints the perpetrator at random
morto@piefed.social · 3 pts · 83d
And that's why just reporting to give the right guess most of the time isn't enough. We need a full confusion matrix to evaluate any classification skill :D
Zombie@feddit.uk · 24 pts · 83d
In a way, isn't every farm a worm farm?
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 83d
Distinctly, no, as insecticides and fungicides are still widely used and very very bad for worms.
Zombie@feddit.uk · 23 pts · 83d
WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 82d
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 82d
BenLeMan@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 82d
This makes me wonder what everyone's mental image of a worm farmer looks like.
My intuitive association was Steve Urkel (I mean, the suspenders!) but a Google search suggests a more hirsute look for the average vermiculturist.
CubitOom@infosec.pub · 8 pts · 83d
I have a worm farm.
Red wrigglers
doomslang@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 83d
You don't have to tell me, buddy!
LordMayor@piefed.social · 5 pts · 83d
The Cadillac of worms.
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 83d
What are the signs of running a worm farm?
doomslang@lemmy.zip · 13 pts · 83d
You just gotta feel it.
NABDad@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 83d
"Excuse me?"
"They said you just gotta feel it."
"I don't think this is what they meant."
"You don't know that.'
"Fair enough. Carry on."
(the conversation I made up in my head, now typed out for you all to share)
Mesa@programming.dev · 2 pts · 78d
I should do this more often.
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 83d
They just wiggle out of everything
CannedYeet@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 82d
one_old_coder@piefed.social · 5 pts · 83d
Do I run a worm farm?
foggy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 82d
Gimme 9 other guys and OP can tell ya.
Janx@piefed.social · 1 pts · 82d
I volunteer as tribute.
surewhynotlem@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 83d
Does a compost pile count?
slothrop@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 83d
This is very close to being oddly specific.
Plus, oddly, I agree with you.
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 83d
Is it bcz most people don't run a worm farm?
bstix@feddit.dk · 2 pts · 82d
I've only ever seen one in movies.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonny_Vang
GreyEyedGhost@piefed.ca · 2 pts · 82d
I'll leave this here.