Kind of funny that the pope, representative of the traditional Christian values, is now considered a radical left wing woke. Didn't had that on my bingo card.
I mean, I suppose there would be nothing stopping the Pope from issuing a decree that LLMs are violations of all sorts of religious principles.
First, it could be viewed as a form of Idol Worship, a modern day Tower of Babel. The AI zealots are literally trying to summon a benevolent deity. That's Pride. That's Blasphemy. It's literally playing God. Whatever god these AI zealots hope to create must be below the power of the One True God. Yet they seek to worship it. They seek to depend on it for sustenance, for wisdom, for guidance. They want to turn their entire existence over to a machine. They want to worship it. Instead of worshiping God, they seek to bow down before their own golden calf.
Or you could view it as an act of black magic. LLMs are trained off the corpus of human knowledge; they're trying to speak a deity into being. That sounds like literal witchcraft, a mockery of God's Creation of Man. Or Hell, the Vatican believes in the literal Devil and literal demons. When we pass our reasoning onto these machines, do we not make ourselves vulnerable to demonic intervention? Who's to say ol' Beelzebub isn't back there tinkering with your model weights, corrupting your agents so that they will lead to malevolent results?
Maybe that's why LLMs hallucinate so much, and why the whole conclusion of the AI alignment field seems to be "we're fucked if we actually manage to create a real superhuman AGI." Maybe it turns out that human beings actually can create a true intelligence. What we cannot do is create one that isn't evil. Only the hand of the Divine has enough subtlety to craft a mind that is both intelligent as humans and also not irredeemably evil. To have an intelligence without evil, one must have a soul. And only God can create those. Any AGI must be a literal soulless monster. Any act of creating one an spitting in the eyes of God. There are some lines we were just never meant to cross.
What an honor, to be present for the inception of the legendary butlerian jihad, as foretold by our dear prophet frank herbert. We shall await the coming of shai hulud
I'm a Christian but don't believe in Holy War and I'm not a big fan of the Pope but dammit sign me up for the war against the robots and the data centers!
If you've got evidence that the Pope himself is a predator, I'd be curious to see. If you're saying "The Pope can't say anything good ever because of the evil the organization he represents has done countless atrocities." You're going to face a lot of adversity in your life. Nothing is as black and white as we'd all prefer it to be.
Besides, Prevost had a very long track record of trust, mostly in developing countries. The only issue with him right now is sitting on the fence about Catholic Church recognition of LGBTQ+ as a reality.
You don't become the pope without either covering up for or participating in child abuse. The pope is the position with the most dirt on the other dirty old men.
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Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works · 63 pts · 93d
Kind of funny that the pope, representative of the traditional Christian values, is now considered a radical left wing woke. Didn't had that on my bingo card.
PugJesus@piefed.social · 38 pts · 93d
Pope Francis was considered 'left' and 'woke' too, for the basic humanity of [checks notes] not believing in American Jesus
davetortoise@reddthat.com · 22 pts · 92d
He is only considered left wing by the american hard-right. In most of Europe and the UK he's a fairly neutral, almost apolitical, figure.
schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 92d
Traditional Christian values like helping the poor and whipping people in financial services?
SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 92d
That Jesus guy was woke as fuck.
flamingos@feddit.uk · 45 pts · 93d
I think you mean the Butlerian Jihad.
BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 93d
And trump tries to channel Baron Harkonnen by invading Iran
MeatPilot@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 93d
teft@piefed.social · 12 pts · 93d
Vladimir Harkonnen was like 10000 years after the Butlerian Jihad.
Trump only wishes he had even half the guile and brains of Baron Harkonnen. The baron’s plots actually succeed for the most part.
Avicenna@programming.dev · 4 pts · 92d
all of the gluttony/cruelty none of the intelligence
ICastFist@programming.dev · 2 pts · 92d
I wonder if Israel counts as the Bene Gesserit, pulling the strings behind house shittrumpen
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 92d
I mean, I suppose there would be nothing stopping the Pope from issuing a decree that LLMs are violations of all sorts of religious principles.
First, it could be viewed as a form of Idol Worship, a modern day Tower of Babel. The AI zealots are literally trying to summon a benevolent deity. That's Pride. That's Blasphemy. It's literally playing God. Whatever god these AI zealots hope to create must be below the power of the One True God. Yet they seek to worship it. They seek to depend on it for sustenance, for wisdom, for guidance. They want to turn their entire existence over to a machine. They want to worship it. Instead of worshiping God, they seek to bow down before their own golden calf.
Or you could view it as an act of black magic. LLMs are trained off the corpus of human knowledge; they're trying to speak a deity into being. That sounds like literal witchcraft, a mockery of God's Creation of Man. Or Hell, the Vatican believes in the literal Devil and literal demons. When we pass our reasoning onto these machines, do we not make ourselves vulnerable to demonic intervention? Who's to say ol' Beelzebub isn't back there tinkering with your model weights, corrupting your agents so that they will lead to malevolent results?
Maybe that's why LLMs hallucinate so much, and why the whole conclusion of the AI alignment field seems to be "we're fucked if we actually manage to create a real superhuman AGI." Maybe it turns out that human beings actually can create a true intelligence. What we cannot do is create one that isn't evil. Only the hand of the Divine has enough subtlety to craft a mind that is both intelligent as humans and also not irredeemably evil. To have an intelligence without evil, one must have a soul. And only God can create those. Any AGI must be a literal soulless monster. Any act of creating one an spitting in the eyes of God. There are some lines we were just never meant to cross.
BarrelAgedBoredom@lemmy.zip · 17 pts · 93d
Begging for permission to act from an authority isnt very chad. Go dissolve some styrofoam and get to work comrade
PugJesus@piefed.social · 10 pts · 93d
It's just coordination, I know the Crusaders have experience with trebuchets
fira@lemmy.today · 13 pts · 92d
Here’s an article about it for the curious: https://www.ewtnnews.com/world/us/pope-s-ai-warnings-come-as-americans-grapple-with-data-center-expansions
brownsugga@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 92d
What an honor, to be present for the inception of the legendary butlerian jihad, as foretold by our dear prophet frank herbert. We shall await the coming of shai hulud
lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 92d
Onward the Butlerian Jihad!
doingthestuff@lemy.lol · 5 pts · 92d
I'm a Christian but don't believe in Holy War and I'm not a big fan of the Pope but dammit sign me up for the war against the robots and the data centers!
maniacalmanicmania@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 92d
Why don't you like the pope?
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 92d
He leads a jolly life
Zink@programming.dev · 3 pts · 92d
This brings a whole new dimension to calling yourself a Secular Humanist.
It's great to see the pope occasionally acting like a humanist, even if he is very much not secular, lol.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 92d
I mean do they still make you get your secules removed to be a cardinal?
totesmygoat@piefed.ca · -9 pts · 93d
Yup... What him and his cohorts do to kids... Hey!! Looks over there!! Data centers!!! The Catholic Church has no legs when it comes to morals.
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 93d
If you've got evidence that the Pope himself is a predator, I'd be curious to see. If you're saying "The Pope can't say anything good ever because of the evil the organization he represents has done countless atrocities." You're going to face a lot of adversity in your life. Nothing is as black and white as we'd all prefer it to be.
lechekaflan@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 92d
Besides, Prevost had a very long track record of trust, mostly in developing countries. The only issue with him right now is sitting on the fence about Catholic Church recognition of LGBTQ+ as a reality.
totesmygoat@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 92d
https://www.npr.org/2023/05/23/1177773654/illinois-attorney-general-finds-massive-cover-up-of-clergy-sexual-abuse
You don't become the pope without either covering up for or participating in child abuse. The pope is the position with the most dirt on the other dirty old men.