I had no idea that jelly is made from grapes. In my almost 50 years on this earth I have never heard of that. There's really no point to my comment, except maybe to serve as a reminder to never take knowledge for granted.

WaterSword@discuss.tchncs.de · 16 pts · 71d (3 replies)

I mean jam is just made from any fruit right? Or is jelly not jam and truly a specific thing?

arctanthrope@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 71d (2 replies)

jam is made from mashed fruit, jelly is made from fruit juice. basically the same process except the solids are strained out

over_clox@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 71d (1 reply)

We just use jelly beans and peanuts around here, I dunno what you folks are on about.

Who the fuck can afford jelly or grapes these days?

maccentric@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 71d

I still have some from the before times

stupidcasey@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 71d (1 reply)

Grape jelly is made of grapes ....

Phantaloons@piefed.zip · 2 pts · 71d

looks harder at label

Grape-flavored Jelly

nahhhh

Equinox1289@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 71d (10 replies)

• Jelly is fruit juice paste made with gelatin or pectin.

• Jam is the exact same except with mashed bits of fruit.

• Preserves have whole chunks

lime@feddit.nu · 5 pts · 71d (9 replies)

...if you're in the us.

Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 71d (8 replies)

Yes in some other places what we refer to as jello (gelatine-based fruit-flavored wobble) you call jelly. But the jelly in a classic PBJ is assumed to be made from concord grape juice and sugar, jellified by pectin. Do you guys not distinguish between the pectin and gelatin kinds?

lime@feddit.nu · 1 pts · 71d (7 replies)

no, the distinction is the same, it's just that from what i've seen of american grape jelly i would call it a jam.

Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 71d (5 replies)

Oof I typed a response with 3 recipe links and lost it so I'll just say jelly is clear bc juice, jam is opaque bc fruit

lime@feddit.nu · 1 pts · 71d (4 replies)

yeah but the grape stuff is somewhere inbetween. it's like semi-opaque.

the only jelly readily available here is made from red currants, because it's a common side to game, and that thing is basically fully see-through.

Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 71d

Apple jelly is clear, and is the base for mint jelly, but I think maybe y'all use mint sauce instead?

ohulancutash@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 71d

It isn’t a jam, as it has none of the fruit left in it. Its just juice.

cadekat@pawb.social · 5 pts · 71d (4 replies)

Or, more enjoyably, from raspberries.

mrmisses@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 71d (1 reply)

Or, more enjoyably, from strawberries.

makyo@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 71d

But black cherries

red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 71d (1 reply)

I knew about all kinds of jam/jelly. Just never once grapes.

wunderkatze@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 71d

I've had jam made from red wine. Soo....

Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 71d (4 replies)

I too have had the experience of learning something I just never thought about from childhood on. And I will note that most jelly (and purple grape juice, and Manischewitz passover wine) is made from Concord grapes, which are not the same kind as are usually eaten raw from a grocery store. So no judgement, just curious: do you mean you never noticed the jar says "Concord Grape Jelly" or do you just not eat/encounter jelly?

red_bull_of_juarez@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 71d (3 replies)

I'm not in the US. Grape jelly just isn't popular here. You get jam/jelly from all kinds of fruit, strawberry, raspberry, cherry, orange, lemon, blueberry, apricot, peach, ... I just never, ever saw grape jelly. I am sure that you can get it in well-stocked supermarkets, but as I rarely eat jelly, I never came across it.

Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 71d (2 replies)

Okay that makes total sense then. The fruits you listed I have mostly seen as jam or marmalade or preserves rather than jelly.

As a person who doesn't like grape seeds or squashy grapes I don't think I'd like grape jam. I wonder if a winery with extra grape juice made the first grape jelly?

Concord grapes don't make great wine, but their growers are probably doing better than the fine wineries right now with the wine glut and people pinching pennies with cheap food like PBJs for the kids.

I grew up in a strawberry town and make my own strawberry jam using my mom's recipe. So even though the "iconic American PBJ" uses grape jelly we always had strawberry jam in ours.

Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 70d (1 reply)

The fruits you listed I have mostly seen as jam or marmalade or preserves rather than jelly.

Wait, jelly isn't the just American name for Jam/Preserve? You put wibbly wobbly stuff between slices of bread?

Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 70d

No, in America we distinguish between "preserves" (berries left whole, except for those that fall apart by themselves, or big chunks of peach or whatnot) "jam" (fruit is mashed, usually has the seeds but can be pushed and scraped through a strainer to remove them, but the pulp remains part of the finished product) and "jelly" (fruit is either juiced and double-strained /filtered before cooking or afterwards, finished product is transparent).

Marmalade is different because the pith of citrus fruits turns bitter with cooking, so you have to pare off thin strips of rind (the colored skin) and then squeeze the juice, and discard all the pulp before adding the sugar and cooking.

I'm pretty sure those categories are legal, and probably include percentages of fruit to sugar and water for commercial products, because they're consistent in labeling at the grocery store.

Edit to add, jello is clear but gelatin not pectin and usually artificial fruit flavor unless you make it yourself from juice.

Phantaloons@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 71d

You mean it isn't ham?!

stupidcasey@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 71d

I prefer mine well done

(Peanut butter flavored jelly belly)

slaacaa@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 71d (3 replies)

What do you think the B stands for?

Return_of_Chippy@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 71d

Burger

LodeMike@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 71d

Booty

Hupf@feddit.org · 2 pts · 71d

Just insert a comma

rumschlumpel@feddit.org · 8 pts · 71d (1 reply)

Need to add some sliced sugar beet, sugarcane or corn.

Starik@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 71d

Or just pour some sugar on me it.

Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 71d

That's not just rare, that's critically endangered! Extinct in the wild, even!

mEEGal@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 70d

Okay I've procrastanated enough

Crazyslinkz@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 71d

Technically those peanuts would have been roasted.

Zier@fedia.io · 4 pts · 71d

You MONSTER!!!!

jaybone@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 71d

I think “deconstructed” is the fancy word?

Oddly, this could maybe work if you sliced the grapes. Or sliced strawberries.

Orygin@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 70d

Ok William Osman 2 I believe you

SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 71d (3 replies)

I thought jelly was made of bone
You need some crunchy ulnas on there

SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 71d

???

You must be somewhere other than the US. "Jelly" is preserves/jam, not gelatin.

jwu@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 71d (1 reply)

The J in PB&J is generally for jelly, as in fruit preserves, not Jello.

Fruit preserves are generally made using pectin which is not derived from bones.

SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 71d

Oh, TIL

OldSageRick@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 71d

Thats nit rare, thats mythical, - points for overbacked bread

TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 71d (2 replies)

There are few things I don't like, peanut butter is one of them. I'd rather eat this (I do like peanuts).

TheOakTree@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 70d (1 reply)

I think peanuts on a buttered piece of toast would be solid. Gotta try it sometime.

TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 70d

I also prefer chocolate sprinkles over chocolate paste on my bread. But I'm Dutch, we love our hagelslag. We also love our pindakaas (peanutbutter) while I do not though...

Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 71d

Procter and Gamble sandwich?

hOrni@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 71d (2 replies)

Do You normally use grape jelly for pb&j? I use raspberry.

adarza@piefed.ca · 1 pts · 71d

grape jam or strawberry preserves here. switch to the other when a jar gets emptied so i don't get tired of one.

Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 71d

I like strawberry preserves, so I occasionally bite into a big squooshy chunk of strawberry.

ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 71d

I want mine still mooing.

assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 71d

Your bread is pretty well done. I like mine medium rare.