You are a senior executive at Adobe.

The CEO of Adobe summons you in his office.

You are in charge of creating a secret task force. The goal is to systematically undermine open source software such as Krita, Inkscape, Kdenlive or GIMP. You have a $50 million budget. Nobody in the company knows about this project except you and Adobe's CEO.

What would you do?
28 Comments
silasmariner@programming.dev · 36 pts · 103d
Spam poor quality llm commits from sockpuppet accounts to a bunch of popular projects. Sprinkle in some subtly-buggy contributions from more established accounts. The buggy contributions should not be obviously malicious (not, like, obfuscated credit stealers -- they should just break things). Do this to as many projects as you can without making it super obvious. Prefer projects with few maintainers but a high merge rate. Then, go think about what you did, you bastard.
notabot@piefed.social · 10 pts · 103d
This is what I came to say. If you want to undermine open source software, you undermine the maintainers who hold it all together. Swamp them in pull requests, some that are genuine, some with subtle bugs, some that are nonsense. Also try to start flame wars and circulate unsavory rumours about them, claim they are sexist, ableist, racist, or that they are trying to capture the software fir big business, or anything else that might drive a wedge between them and their community. Ideally, drive them out of OSS entirely and encourage a large enough portion of their audience to switch to a fork you maintain through a sock puppet account. At that point you control the software, regardless of the OSS tag on it, and can go about degrading it slowly.
CaptainBasculin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 24 pts · 103d
Dropping all of that budget to art universities to have them teach Adobe software primarily. Inkscape, Kdenlive and GIMP do not have the funds to compete in this way, and once people learn a software to do their job, it becomes really hard to switch. Sure, enthausists can learn other open software, that's not my target audience. My target audience is the one that uses such software to earn their money, and most of them will pursue higher education before doing so to learn their tools better, and Adobe will make that money back really easily with their subscription plans.
iatenine@piefed.social · 13 pts · 103d
Despite answering almost the inverse of the question, this is the correct answer
You can spend infinite money undermining infinite competitors but software companies live and die on industries and professionals being entrenched in their ecosystem
azimir@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 102d
That's why Apple used to give computers to schools (plus tax write-offs). Every school, and most classrooms, had Apple ][ computers in the 80's.
nocturne@slrpnk.net · 20 pts · 103d
Nice try adobe.
tangible@piefed.social · 9 pts · 103d
Korhaka@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 103d
I would submit code I wrote to it
SanderZeldenthuis@nord.pub · 8 pts · 103d
Pay a bunch of simps to make posts all over about how they tried switching to linux and/or GIMP but it was too hard and broke all the time, claiming that open source is "just a hobby."
kbal@fedia.io · 7 pts · 103d
I think the best strategy is to contribute lots of money and work to promoting and developing free software, improving it and using it everywhere so that it comes to be ubiquitous, used by everyone. That will make it even more of a target for malware authors and therefore lead to its sure demise. We should get started right away.
kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 103d
I'd embezzle a bunch of the money, then spend the rest on good-faith contributions to the software in question, insisting that this was just stage 1 of the plan. There is no stage 2.
MagicShel@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 103d
I can't say you understood the assignment, but I can say you are good people. I mean.... kinda. Embezzlement is a bit sketch.
Adderbox76@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 103d
Embezzlement from billion dollar corporations is a moral duty whenever the opportunity presents itself, so long as that embezzled money gets redistributed appropriately, Robin-Hood style.
zxqwas@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 103d
Make arbitrary changes in your file formats every year that breaks any compatibility in as subtle ways as possible.
Doomsider@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 102d
Buy the platforms open source projects use and...Wait a minute, MS already did this.
With the advent of AI open source is no longer a threat. Now it is just training data.
IAMgROOT@lemmy.wtf · 5 pts · 103d
become a whisleblower, expose them?
leraje@piefed.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 103d
Fork it, carry on with being FOSS for now, develop a few killer features that everyone will love that would take a small FOSS team years to develop. When it becomes the industry standard, make it closed source. A year later start charging for it.
dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 102d
I would start a bunch of supply chain attacks to erode the trust and drown them in ai generated "contributions" to make maintainers tired.
BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 103d
Delete all of my internal databases. Necessity is the mother of invention, so starting at a disadvantage would be a catalyst to churn out even better software!
Fizz@lemmy.nz · 2 pts · 103d
Delete your own databases, the AI method of software development?
Pickleideas@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 103d
Easy. Use open source code and licenses to make my software ubiquitous. Convince manufacturers they need my software preinstalled at no cost to them. Once every piece of hardware is on my system, close access to it and say it's for your safety.
user224@lemmy.sdf.org · 3 pts · 102d
Pretending it's a fictional scenario, asking the question in tech-oriented spaces such as Lemmy and Mastodon, then using some of the answers.
SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 103d
Just pay off youtubers
Wudi@feddit.uk · 2 pts · 103d
I'm asking this because I'm convinced this is actually happening.
TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website · 3 pts · 103d
Because it is, China does it
However Big Tech software are always hacked in the same way but we rarely heard about it
stoy@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 102d
If I am a senior executive at Adobe, and given this task, I would immediately resign.
It tells me that Adobe feels like GIMP, Krita and Kdenlive is an existential threat, which is just an utter delusion.
It tells me that the CEO is acting on false information, and I don't want to be part of that.
Now, for the sake of argument, let's say that I stayed, and I did partake in this stupid endeavor.
I wouldn't do anything to the software projects at all, instead I would have Adobe release a suite of free tools, say 90% stripped down versions of Photoshop, Premiere and Illustrator, they would be very limited, naturally, but they would use the same workflow as the real deal.
That would make people far more familiar with Adobe products and push for their use in businesses.
To be frank, I highly doubt that Adobe cares about what people use at home, what matters is what the businesses use, they are easier and more profitable to go after.
The two killer features that any commercial software has over open source when it comes to business are:
Source: Fifteen years as an IT guy.
chunes@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 103d
I would take a movement whose mission is user freedom and whose arguments relate to morality and twist it so that the only thing that matters is software quality. Now, it's palatable to corporations.
MuttMutt@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 103d
Clone every repository, start inserting bugs and viruses, then take the open source code and encrypt/obfuscate it and make minor changes
Then release it as a closed source product and have a spin doctor like Steve Jobs tell people mine is better and there are no viruses or bugs so they should switch.
That's the standard playbook, if it works it ain't broke so don't fix it.
Fizz@lemmy.nz · 1 pts · 103d
I'd hire slop writers to make articles saying X open source project got hacked y open. Source project got hacked. Then spam replies on the threads when they get posted to reddit with replies like "this is bad, I'm going bad to BigEvilCorp because they have a fulltime team working security". Itd manufacturer reality for people and eventually it'd shift perception.
Also the articles about projects being hacked dont even have to be real. Misinfo travels way faster than the truth