Site takes no action over hate posts against UK politicians including Kemi Badenoch, Shabana Mahmood and Zia Yusuf
X has refused to take down dozens of social media posts reported as “hate, abuse or harassment” in which prominent UK politicians, including Kemi Badenoch, have been racially abused.
In May, researchers from the social inclusion thinktank British Future reported 30 posts from this year in which the Conservative party leader was called the N-word. In each case the researchers used the platform’s “hate, abuse or harassment” reporting option. X refused to act in the majority of cases, despite repeated requests.
The Guardian understands X routinely takes action only when posts are reported to it as illegal under the UK’s Online Safety Act. In those cases, it restricts visibility in the UK, leaving the post unrestricted in other jurisdictions.
58 Comments
Prox@lemmy.world · 54 pts · 66d
I have no idea what the "P-word" would be.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 42 pts · 66d
Paki, usually yelled at people's faces like "Get out of my country you fucking Paki scum" before trashing someone's corner shop. Definitely a racist slur due to how the British losers use it. Despite appearing like shorthand it's become a slur.
guillem@aussie.zone · 16 pts · 66d
Wikipedia says it's a derogatory term used for Pakistani people.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 66d
I’d generalize it to South Asian brown people in general as racists aren’t exactly geography experts
Bixcut@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 66d
Sounds like something a p-word would say
foodandart@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 65d
Prick?
humorlessrepost@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 65d
betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 66d
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 66d
Pussy? P-eter? P-o-ta-to? P-ot-a-soup? P-at-a-ba-da...ding-dong? I have literally no idea. People are saying it's a slur and I'm glad I don't know. If you respond to this with what it is, I'm blocking you, I really don't want to know or propagate more slurs and racism in this world. Eradicate all Nazi scum.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 66d
"Pussy", I guess. I can't think of another one.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 66d
Nah, it’s a regional racial slur common in the UK, Paki. I’d compare it to how people outside of the UK don’t realize it, but spaz is a heavy ableist slur over there too.
NotSteve_@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 66d
The word is used as a racial slur in Canada too (unfortunately). I haven't really heard it used in ages but that could just be from moving out of my small town and into a city
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 66d
I remember my friend using it here in NJ directed at a kid in our class who was from Pakistan which I found pretty odd as my buddy’s family is from Egypt. I’d expect a little solidarity but I guess middle school is not a great time. It’s definitely not very common here though.
Kazel@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 65d
it's also kinda childish. the word is called "Nigga". just don't use it and get over it
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 65d
Uh oh guys, we've got an edgelord on Lemmy!
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 66d
This is why it's stupid to use "n-word" and, in this case "p-word", in a news article reporting what was said. The words, in the context of quoting another, should be spelled out, to present the full impact of the slur. The words are not offensive, they're just words, it's the context that gives them weight and meaning. I don't know what the "p-word" is, and I've learned nothing from this article about it. I can't avoid using a slur, or even recognizing a word as a slur, if I don't know what it is.
I've learned, however, in social media sites, I can't spell out the word, lest I be auto-banned from entire communities simply for stringing together those letters in that order, regardless of context. Bots don't understand context, they just swing the ban hammer if they see the word.
Those who use slurs in hateful ways should NOT be given the consideration of sanitizing a word they said, in news reports quoting them. They should be quoted in full.
ElderReflections@fedia.io · 27 pts · 66d
I've never had an issue with reading the n-word, listening to NWA or watching Django Unchained. I do take issue with being told I "should go back to Jamaica", but that doesn't need sanitizing
certified_expert@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 66d
And on the flip side, you could use only fancy words and yet, still attack and hate people.
foodandart@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 65d
You... pernicious nostril!
OwOarchist@pawb.social · 3 pts · 66d
wolfpack86@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 66d
Pretarded
SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 65d
Yeah it's giving off You-know-who vibes from Harry Potter.
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online · 1 pts · 66d
Not spelling out the word isn't about protecting the people who used it, it's about sparing the people targeted by the slur from having to read it.
Referring to a word vs using it is the context.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 66d
If you don't discuss these things openly you're helping hide them. I assure you people from Pakistan know the word, and aren't fragile. Better to openly discuss racism if you want a culture to deal with it, rather than preserve it.
Once the slur is discussed people can discuss how things got this way, rather than sneaking around on egg shells using hushed tones.
ati@piefed.social · 2 pts · 65d
It's not targeted at people from Pakistan particularly, it's applied to anyone of vaguely South Asian appearance.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 65d
True.
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online · -9 pts · 66d
Do either of these slurs apply to you?
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 66d
Oh, are we going to go down the "Jews can't be antisemitic" slide now?
A cultural problem needs multiple cultural influences to fix it. You can't balkanize or ghettoize it, then walk away and say "well, that's a problem for just those people, and their community to discuss". All of a culture has to be against racism to make an antiracist culture.
Also, you're not the gestapo of standpoint epistemology... And races themselves aren't unified in opinions. Sometimes there's a general unity, but because opinions do vary between individuals and from race to race... And because people of ANY race can be racist to ANY race (including their own) - we have to operate as a whole culture.
"What race are you to be talking about this?" whilst perhaps well meaning, may also be a kind of defensive use of racialization (standpoint epistemology).
When I say things like Pakistanis aren't fragile to reading a word that's not being said with offensive intentions (they do already know these slurs) I say that because I don't believe anyone is so fragile that explaining the usage of a slur they already know is harmful.
...and if it is, they should take time away from such discussions to deal with that trauma, because like I say, ultimately you need a whole society to have healthy and mature attitudes towards being and becoming anti-racist.
May actually be:
Which I understand, but we have to move past these individual fears and problems if we're going to solve the systemic cultural whole. Part of which is having and spreading THIS type of discussion to other people from an antiracist perspective, so thank you for helping and participating in that.
Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online · -9 pts · 66d
What in tarnation
(Eta: origin of tarnation. Just in case someone takes this troll seriously.)
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 66d
Tarnation, and tar baby. I wouldn't use them, not after that discussion.
In historical context they can be read as not racist, but I wouldn't use them personally unless I'd already established an old timey southern character/context (which isn't what we were up to just then).
darkdemize@sh.itjust.works · 18 pts · 66d
I know what they're referring to by N-word, but wtf is the P-word? I skimmed the article and still couldn't figure it out.
Fuckfuckmyfuckingass@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 66d
Phaggot? Pee Pee Poo Poo? Pheasant?
wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 66d
I'm suddenly back in kindergarten and smirking
foodandart@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 66d
Portulaca.
Taleya@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 66d
Persimmon
bhamlin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 66d
Patronam
Taleya@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 66d
Oh shit! They're talking about plenury indulgences!
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 66d
It’s Paki, a racial slur for South Asian people common in the UK.
darkdemize@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 66d
Thank you. I've seen this used before but never referred to in the same connotations as the N-word. Is it common for it to be treated as harshly as the former over there? I'm not aware of it being as severe in the US, but we don't have the same proportions.
ati@piefed.social · 1 pts · 65d
Not quite as severe, but same ballpark.
imsufferableninja@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 66d
Paki
TwinTitans@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 65d
P word? Wtf.
dogslayeggs@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 65d
I'm pretty sure it is the shortened slur for Pakistanis that gets used for any person who looks vaguely like they might be from that region, including Indians (who mostly don't enjoy being confused with their regional neighbors/hated enemies).
dreksob@feddit.online · 14 pts · 66d
To be fair, if they banned the bots and the Nazis, they wouldn't have any traffic at all.
Hiatus@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 65d
Sorta like how reddit protects pedos and abusers. Fucking disgusting sites.
ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one · 7 pts · 65d
The Epstein Class has class solidarity.
Edit: They will do everything they can protect each other. Twitter allows racist shit to keep working class people fighting. Reddit protects the child abusers of the Epstein Class.
Hiatus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 65d
I agree completely. Anything to divide the poors and make them hate eachother. Its so fucking easy too. Easy to get pissed when youve worked your ass off and the fruits get fucked with. Easy to be happy and work together when youre so rich the fruits dont matter.
leraje@piefed.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 66d
The 'p' word is a shortening of the word 'Pakistani' to the first four letters and is very much used abusively. When people came to the UK from Asia - India, Bangladesh and Pakistan mostly - starting in the 1950/60's, the usual assortment of racist/fascist scum, being both hateful cunts and also deeply stupid, assumed anyone who looked Asian was Pakistani and so the p-word became a term of racial abuse for literally anyone who might appear to be from that part of Asia or have that heritage.
SaraTonin@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 65d
Wait, the site owned by a sieg-heiling Nazi allows racist posts?
loaf@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 66d
To be fair, if they banned all the bots, they’d have no traffic at all.
laranis@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 65d
First thought was p-word could be "pajeet", but comments below say it is likely "paki". Can someone from UK clarify?
mufkin@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 65d
I was thinking peckerwood. It’s in line with the n word.
jerkface@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 65d
The form "X-slur" is much better than "X-word".
pHr34kY@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 65d
It's only acceptable to shorten names of wealthy, white nationalities like Brits, Aussies and Swedes.
Pakistan and Nigeria don't want an invitation to this club.
ati@piefed.social · -1 pts · 65d
You appear to be either genuinely thick or willfully disenguous. Let me spell it out for you. I've been called a Brit many times, but unlike when I've been called a paki it's not usually associated withh a threat of violence, spitting or similar behaviour. Perhaps it might be in some places in the world. But not in most the UK. Bar perhaps slivers of Northern Ireland.
CovfefeKills@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 66d
Paki is the "P-word".
Which by itself doesn't seem like a big deal but apparently it is used as a derogatory term. Seems like a bitch move by pakistanis to try coop the weight of the n-word tho.
NOT_RICK@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 66d
It sounds like you’re not from the UK; there’s a lot of violent hate towards South Asians there. People have had their houses burned down while they’re called this very slur just this past week.
CovfefeKills@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 66d
This past week? Well that changes everything then. It's paki not p-word. Take this shit seriously it isn't to be thrown around.
dogslayeggs@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 65d
It is extremely derogatory and hateful in the UK and has many decades of violence and discrimination behind it. Seems like a bitch move by you to try to minimize the impact of societal hatred and violence towards a group of people purely because of the color of their skin. You used the word "apparently," which means you don't really know what you are talking about, but then you go and judge people as being bitches for feeling extremely hurt for being treated as second class citizens and having violence perpetrated on them simply for the color of their skin.
CovfefeKills@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 65d
It's paki, not P-word. Take this shit seriously it isn't to be thrown around.
terranoid@lemmy.cafe · 0 pts · 66d