Blue-collar white voters are, for the first time, seriously doubting Mr. Trump’s handling of the economy.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/13/us/politics/trump-white-working-class-voters-economy.html?unlocked_article_code=1.p1A.lBtN.rtvtvNMyy_AV
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Assassassin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 108 pts · 67d
Blue collar white voters are apparently the stupidest morons to ever idiot. This shit was clear to anyone above a 5th grade reading level a decade ago.
aramis87@fedia.io · 71 pts · 67d
54% of U.S. adults read below the equivalent of a sixth-grade level.
baronvonj@piefed.social · 14 pts · 67d
not as a matter of disbelief, but statements like this are good to accompany with a source.
LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net · 19 pts · 67d
Maybe you should disbelieve. Studies show 82% of unsourced facts shared online were false.
BassTurd@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 67d
Not OP, but this corroborates the statement. https://www.nu.edu/blog/49-adult-literacy-statistics-and-facts/
CannonFodder@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 67d
That's why I only believe 28% of things I read online.
grue@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 67d
I like how that adds up to 110%.
AbidanYre@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 67d
Intentional or just bad math? The world may never know.
CannonFodder@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 66d
;-)
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 67d
60% of the time, it works every time.
Pistachio@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 67d
The source to most statistics can be found by googling, "Statistician, Todd Snider"
TrickDacy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 67d
Snider, innit?
Pistachio@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 66d
Correct, autocorrect strikes again
ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net · 10 pts · 67d
Here's a great example of how that compares to other adjacent grades.
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 66d
So the average reader has no critical thought or perspective but rather focuses on the emotion they feel on what was said. No wonder the FOX crowd is so easily swayed by angry actors presenting their case with the same few trigger words on loop.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 66d
You say that like you're smarter then that. Or like your apart of a group that is better than that. But you're not. Like it's 15 years into this shit and you're comment sounds like you're just realizing this. Wait until you find out they're also aware of this and not only do they use it to their benefit, you'll find the group your in is totally ignorant to this. You're being astonished at a bard playing music to rally his group while you're in a group with bards that think music is stupid.
You're on fucking lemmy after they convinced everybody here to leave social media. Wake up
Look around. We are herded into the most uncreative communities meant to stifle momentum. This community is for posting only news articles from certain sites and only about a certain topic. This other community is for memes, but only memes about Y. For YZ memes we have YZ meme community. Don't even think about posting YZ memes in Y that's a ban. This other community is for posting about beans.
But they're the fucking stupid ones
Moderated right into our pens
Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 66d
Like you said it's a community thing. There's a spectrum of acceptable behavior inside each one. I simply choose the one with the widest band possible at the end of my political preference. I still venture out into the tankie and hard R conservative crowd on occasion to keep perspective on the bigger picture though.
We're not immune to propaganda but it's easier to see the overlapping issues we all face and care about but end up being divided on how to solve it based on our personal and political leanings.
spacesatan@lazysoci.al · 2 pts · 66d
Parking between the lines in the parking lot? You can just drive over them. wake up sheeple you can just stop your car anywhere
Bad_Engineering@fedia.io · 22 pts · 67d
As someone who works around a lot of white blue-collar workers, yes they really are the dumbest most pig headed idiots you will ever find. No amount of evidence, financial pain, or debate will change their stupid, shrivled, idiot minds.
someguy3@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 67d
Any story?
Bad_Engineering@fedia.io · 8 pts · 66d
Politically related I work with a 23 yo self proclaimed "christian nationalist, ultra capitalist" who believes every single rightwing conspiracy and and talking point. He also constantly complains about how he's not paid enough but also that the centi-millionaire inherited owner of the company works hard enough to earn all his money despite playing golf 4 day a week.
In terms of good old fashioned stupid, I once saw an operator disable the guardingnon a machine, proceed to lose a finger to said machine. Then after being given a second chance less than a week back on the job decided it was a good idea to disable the same guarding again. Luckily he got fired before he had a chance to lose any more digits.
innermachine@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 66d
As a blue collar white voter I absolutely did not vote for the orange pedophile, not the first time and certainly not the second time. Of my co workers at my shop, only 2 are "Republican" and only one actually supports trump (he's almost 70 and illiterate, connect the dots). In my industry, I am very fortunate to be surrounded by such good co workers...
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 66d
I’m a union construction worker and I’m back in college to escape this blue collar magat infested industry. These dudes are handed a six figure job right out of high school through nepotism and these unions are run like white supremisist gangs. It’s horrible they’re so fucking stupid 90% are cult level pro MAGA turds and it’s the unions fault because that’s the culture they’ve fostered because anyone who stands up to the systemic abuse and discrimination gets blackballed.
Einskjaldi@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 66d
Let's go Brandon stickers and stuff were pretty common in blue collar worker areas
imdoneinteracting@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 67d
TheRiskiestBiscuit@reddthat.com · 51 pts · 67d
I still hear “I voted for Trump three times, but…” on a regular basis. Trump voters by-and-large aren’t repentant and they don’t give the appearance of the cognitive capacity necessary for “doubting”. That would imply reconsideration based on available facts. What they are doing now would be better described as “musing idly about the specific self-serving details of”.
thepig@lemmy.zip · 28 pts · 67d
arin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 67d
Retarded some might say, but mods would censor
SqueakySpider@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 66d
Being ableist is plainly wrong
arin@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 66d
Ah ya let's stop ourselves from insulting people who vote for fascism so they can continue being retarded
SqueakySpider@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 66d
Sorry you're too stupid to choose an insult that isn't bigoted??
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · -6 pts · 66d
But they beat you guys
mrmisses@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 66d
We're outnumbered
arin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 65d
Idiocracy is not a comedy anymore
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 66d
No, you're not. In fact when you actually engage with them smartly, a lot really do lean socialist. They just don't realize it because for some strange reason, progressives and leftist decided to abandon channels of communication and to hide away entirely telling each other to block anyone that looked at them funny.
The harsh reality that a lot of you have to face is that they may actually be smarter than the progressive left. They had a higher social awareness and they all knew the rules of the game and played well. We failed to fucking show up time and time again. When we did, it was the most useless fucking bullshit.
We are not what we once were. Go look around this place. Go read comment sections and try to find good insightful commentary that adds to the discussing. It's all bullshit. It is all just repeating the same bullshit over and over again every post every day. Nothing is being created here.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 66d
May I introduce you to the Conservative Propaganda Machine?
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 65d
Yea which is not just targeted at right wing people. They likely have just as much aimed at the left. They may even want people on the left to remove themselves from the conversation so the machine doesn't need to spend as much energy spreading it's message. If the people who would call them out or challengé them are gone then it benefits them.
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 66d
A gorilla could beat me to death, doesn't mean it's smarter than me.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 65d
Politics isn't a game of physical strength
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 66d
MAGA cheated.
Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 65d
Maybe. Did they face consequences? Who polices the rules?
Astronut@lemmy.zip · 19 pts · 67d
Absolute fucking stubbornness is why it’s taken the ignorant sonsabitches so long to come around!
aceshigh@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 67d
It’s fear of being exposed. Their os is run by their ego. They don’t have the ability to reflect because they don’t accept themselves.
Astronut@lemmy.zip · 0 pts · 67d
Oh they accept themselves. They just can’t except that others are not excepting them. It wasn’t a problem until Lord Feltersnatch told them that it was ok to be an asshole and they ran with that! Now they’re finding out that their willful ignorance is starting to cost them big time when it was just supposed to hurt the poor inner city communities.
Lasherz12@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 67d
I highly doubt they've come around. They're not really known for introspection, like even when it's actively destroying thei lives.
RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 67d
They vote republican cause they fear what they percieve democrats being, through the lens of fox propaganda. Trump could personally fk their asses. They still fear democrats and would vote to hider a democrat victory.
4am@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 67d
The Fox shit kept working because eveytime republicans win they fuck up the economy and then to fix it the democrats need to spend to stop the bleeding, but they never tax the rich. It always lands on the blue collar guys.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 66d
“falls on the entire working class”. Not just the blue collar magat douchebags. I’m a construction worker and I approve this message
ScissorMeTimbres@thelemmy.club · 4 pts · 66d
I am a residential finish carpenter and I also approve this message.
fartographer@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 66d
Oopsie poopsie, the shit I've been shoveling onto my neighbor's yard has overflowed onto mine. I can't believe my shit-covered hands would do this to me.
regedit@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 66d
The best thing about having a kid has been teaching him this phrase and hearing him use it at daycare!
anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 66d
That’s okay. The Iran deal will make the oil flow again so gas will get cheaper therefore the economy MUST be better. His support amongst the white blue collars will go back up.
ceenote@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 67d
Building your identity around supporting a cult leader is a helluva drug.
alexquiniou@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 66d
The first time was not enough ?!
Sam_Bass@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 65d
they've always been slow on the uptake
Malyca@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 66d
Lemmings
apftwb@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 66d
I've heard enough, 300B dollars to
IsraelIran‽BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 66d
Both.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 67d
LOL
arin@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 67d
This is the second time tho, 2016-2020 was the first...
bubblybubbles@lemmy.ml · -2 pts · 67d
dont really matter, theyll vote MAGA anyways and the few who dont will vote BlueMAGA