interesting how there is so much 3rd party discourse about dprk, one side saying it's bad while another side says it's good, yet we hardly hear 1st hand experiences. why don't we see at least some north koreans on lemmy or other platforms sharing their personal experiences of living there, telling us whether they think it's bad or good? or why isn't there north korean platform accesibile to the public where non-north koreans can peek into the activities of north koreans? it's pretty much just outsiders arguing with other outsiders with no input from the insiders
You actually can listen to what citizens of the DPRK are saying, it's just difficult to find. The DPRK heavily restricts access to the global internet because they are under intense siege, but people visit the DPRK frequently (less so in the post-COVID years but steadily increasing over time), and citizens of the DPRK visit neighboring countries like China as well.
I mean, objectively, the dprk is largely underdeveloped which is enough for me to say i wouldn't want to live there (and yes it doesn't help that the entire world hates them and wont leave then alone). Last I knew lots of housing was getting built in rural areas though, which is good.
Me, I can finally live outside of the sphere of influence of USA and I don't need to know what type of new horror human trash will come up with in their next election.
None of you would last in NK, despite how much you glaze it.
You have so clearly never even met someone from the DPRK not to mind talked to one about what life is actually like. Honestly probably good as I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate being hit with the torrent of chauvinist assumptions you clearly have.
Why do you not think I could live and work comfortably in NK? If I learned the language (BIG if, I know, just bare with me), how would my life be worse as a cook in North Korea vs America, I am genuinely curious how much you know about daily life there
His parents denied an autopsy after he died, and the doctor that examined him found no evidence of mistreatment. It seems likely that he contracted illness like botulism, and was returned before his sentence was complete as a show of good will. The denial of an autopsy left it credible that he was tortured to death, which is how the story was reported in the west, but there's no actual evidence for this narrative beyond the coma of unclear origin.
Regardless, nobody is saying the DPRK is a utopia. There are good aspects to the DPRK, but more than anything it is a real country, not literally Mordor as many westerners make it out to be. The image of a hellscape is used to justify sanctions and dehumanization of northern Koreans.
I love when you guys say shit like this because it shows that you think the DPRK is like, a Bosch painting and not a real place. It's such a comical level of racism and distance from reality that I just kind of pity you.
I've seen this image before in a Christian nationalist context and I've found it really funny how light pollution is their metric on how good the country is
Will you tell us about your personal experiences with the glory of North Korea, OP? Please, let is know where all your rock-solid knowledge of the subject matter comes from.
Is your point that only those that have visited the DPRK have a right to speak on it? At best, this means most of us are equally unable to speak on it, meaning any condemnation of it as an evil country akin to Mordor is as absurd as those claiming it isn't an evil country akin to Mordor.
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judgy_jackdaw@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 41d
interesting how there is so much 3rd party discourse about dprk, one side saying it's bad while another side says it's good, yet we hardly hear 1st hand experiences. why don't we see at least some north koreans on lemmy or other platforms sharing their personal experiences of living there, telling us whether they think it's bad or good? or why isn't there north korean platform accesibile to the public where non-north koreans can peek into the activities of north koreans? it's pretty much just outsiders arguing with other outsiders with no input from the insiders
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 41d
You actually can listen to what citizens of the DPRK are saying, it's just difficult to find. The DPRK heavily restricts access to the global internet because they are under intense siege, but people visit the DPRK frequently (less so in the post-COVID years but steadily increasing over time), and citizens of the DPRK visit neighboring countries like China as well.
procapra@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 48d
I mean, objectively, the dprk is largely underdeveloped which is enough for me to say i wouldn't want to live there (and yes it doesn't help that the entire world hates them and wont leave then alone). Last I knew lots of housing was getting built in rural areas though, which is good.
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 24 pts · 48d
They did have to basically start developing from scratch after the US and its allies basically genocided them in the Korean war
procapra@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 47d
True.
Luthis@anarchist.nexus · -6 pts · 47d
yeah so.. remember that kid who went to north Korea, and then he got arrested and eventually sent home in a coma? that DPRK?
anyone who thinks the DPRK is some hidden utopia is a dumbass
CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 47d
No One says its a utopia, we Just Say It was portrayed worse than it Is.
Like sharks ig
Zomg@lemmy.world · -13 pts · 47d
So which one you want to live in and why?
ZeroHora@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 47d
Me, I can finally live outside of the sphere of influence of USA and I don't need to know what type of new horror human trash will come up with in their next election.
Zomg@lemmy.world · -9 pts · 46d
It's unsurprising none want to answer the question. Sounds like those who felt like responding wish a fairytale was true.
None of you would last in NK, despite how much you glaze it.
QinShiHuangsShlong@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 46d
You have so clearly never even met someone from the DPRK not to mind talked to one about what life is actually like. Honestly probably good as I'm sure they wouldn't appreciate being hit with the torrent of chauvinist assumptions you clearly have.
ZeroHora@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 46d
I did respond your question and gave you the why, wtf you're talking about?
"The voices in my head told me"
RiverRock@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 46d
I would fuckin love to live there, skill issue on your part
rzadkie@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 46d
motherfucker I'm still waiting for your semiliterate ass to elaborate on whether you mean living in sharks or koreas.
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 46d
This is just the Zionist arguments about Gaza.
deathmetaldawgy@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 46d
Why do you not think I could live and work comfortably in NK? If I learned the language (BIG if, I know, just bare with me), how would my life be worse as a cook in North Korea vs America, I am genuinely curious how much you know about daily life there
CleoCommunist@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 47d
wich? whats the other choice? why moving? fucking liberals mate
rzadkie@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 47d
Which one as in choose korea or shark? Or choose among sharks? Or koreas?
RiverRock@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 47d
Ah yes the two options, secret utopia or literal mordor. These are the parameters of a very serious conversation
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 47d
His parents denied an autopsy after he died, and the doctor that examined him found no evidence of mistreatment. It seems likely that he contracted illness like botulism, and was returned before his sentence was complete as a show of good will. The denial of an autopsy left it credible that he was tortured to death, which is how the story was reported in the west, but there's no actual evidence for this narrative beyond the coma of unclear origin.
Regardless, nobody is saying the DPRK is a utopia. There are good aspects to the DPRK, but more than anything it is a real country, not literally Mordor as many westerners make it out to be. The image of a hellscape is used to justify sanctions and dehumanization of northern Koreans.
Skedule@lemmy.ml · -7 pts · 48d
DPRK Glazing wasn't on my Lemmy bingo card for today.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 48d
Why not?
thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 47d
Ok go there then right now :) seriously go bring back photos of your trip
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 47d
Here are some cool ones I've found! Can't visit, unfortunately, but there are people who can and have taken some cool pictures.
RiverRock@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 46d
Zero advertisements to be seen
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 46d
Really pretty architecture too!
RiverRock@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 46d
I love when you guys say shit like this because it shows that you think the DPRK is like, a Bosch painting and not a real place. It's such a comical level of racism and distance from reality that I just kind of pity you.
thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 46d
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 46d
Go back to reddit
Zerush@lemmy.ml · -10 pts · 47d
sudoer777@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 46d
I've seen this image before in a Christian nationalist context and I've found it really funny how light pollution is their metric on how good the country is
rzadkie@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 47d
Bratosch@lemmy.world · -20 pts · 48d
That's it. I'm done with Lemmy. What the fuck is this communist dictator apologist propaganda?
roux2scour@jlai.lu · 33 pts · 48d
That's quite the point of lemmy, block instance you don't want to interact with, or better, open up to views that are not curated by US
Transform2942@lemmy.ml · 21 pts · 48d
If you want to be spoonfed propaganda by Mossad/CIA/MI6 by all means go back to reddit
anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 48d
Upvoted for fucking off, now follow through coward.
jankforlife@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 48d
Don't come to comms on lemmy.ml if you are not ready to have the truth shown to you.
bennypr0fane@discuss.tchncs.de · -12 pts · 48d
Will you tell us about your personal experiences with the glory of North Korea, OP? Please, let is know where all your rock-solid knowledge of the subject matter comes from.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml · 20 pts · 48d
Is your point that only those that have visited the DPRK have a right to speak on it? At best, this means most of us are equally unable to speak on it, meaning any condemnation of it as an evil country akin to Mordor is as absurd as those claiming it isn't an evil country akin to Mordor.
anotherspinelessdem@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 48d
And in return you'll enlighten us as to yours?
Bratosch@lemmy.world · -17 pts · 48d
The "truth" that North Korea are good guys? Are you fucking kidding me