The fact that this was even a case they heard indicates a failure of the system. The text of the amendment is unambiguous and unmisinterpretable. The fact that these four decided they should rule based on what they think the Constitution should say instead of what it literally says should be reason enough to have them removed from their positions.
Imagine a future Supreme Court deciding that the founding fathers would have wanted guns banned if they knew what modern weapons looked like, or that they meant to have the government endorse the Catholic church. Literal text of the document be damned, the Supreme Court rules based on what they want it to say. Tantamount to treason, and they ought to be tried as such.
Hold up there, while I agree that birthright citizenship is pretty clear cut, interpreting words is literally the essence of the law. The methodology is similar to all studies of the arts, be it theology, philosophy or the law. You argue and discuss your interpretation by looking at the system of the law, the history of when it was written and explanations to why it was written as well as what the writers intended for the law to mean. That naturally changes over the years
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. There is absolutely no room for interpreting these words. Children of illegal immigrants are subject to our jurisdiction, and are therefore citizens.
The irony is that Alito, Gorsuch, and Thomas are (in)famous for being the most textualist of the judges, where they pride themselves on not interpreting the words, and instead follow the law as it is written.
Except for the clear cut case of birthright citizenship.
It was four not three Brett Kavanaugh also has said the 14th only applies for those that are American citizens and that it was Federal Law that Trump broke not the constitution.
It's weird how, in reading the later books or watching the movies, you realize that you can replace mudblood with any other slur and it is the same story that's been told many times in history.
It's weirder how you can replace mudblood with queer or transfem,
It's weirder how JK is fucking Dolores Umbridge (who is honestly one of my most hated characters in literature) in that world.
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Eternal192@anarchist.nexus · 68 pts · 55d
These are all Trump's island buddies and of course they try to please the pedo in command.
starman2112@sh.itjust.works · 58 pts · 55d
The fact that this was even a case they heard indicates a failure of the system. The text of the amendment is unambiguous and unmisinterpretable. The fact that these four decided they should rule based on what they think the Constitution should say instead of what it literally says should be reason enough to have them removed from their positions.
Imagine a future Supreme Court deciding that the founding fathers would have wanted guns banned if they knew what modern weapons looked like, or that they meant to have the government endorse the Catholic church. Literal text of the document be damned, the Supreme Court rules based on what they want it to say. Tantamount to treason, and they ought to be tried as such.
RidderSport@feddit.org · 10 pts · 55d
Hold up there, while I agree that birthright citizenship is pretty clear cut, interpreting words is literally the essence of the law. The methodology is similar to all studies of the arts, be it theology, philosophy or the law. You argue and discuss your interpretation by looking at the system of the law, the history of when it was written and explanations to why it was written as well as what the writers intended for the law to mean. That naturally changes over the years
starman2112@sh.itjust.works · 17 pts · 54d
Sure thing.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. There is absolutely no room for interpreting these words. Children of illegal immigrants are subject to our jurisdiction, and are therefore citizens.
RidderSport@feddit.org · 6 pts · 54d
Like I said, in this case it is very clear. I was just opposing the statement that interpreting the law would be unlawful
Meron35@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 54d
The irony is that Alito, Gorsuch, and Thomas are (in)famous for being the most textualist of the judges, where they pride themselves on not interpreting the words, and instead follow the law as it is written.
Except for the clear cut case of birthright citizenship.
RidderSport@feddit.org · 0 pts · 54d
Ah I see, well to be fair us legal doctrine is not really much more than fancy word juggling in my opinion anyway
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 55d
In on your side friend just looking for more citations
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 55d
For bad scotus decisions or something more specific?
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 54d
All of it friend
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 54d
I haven't read this yet, but the dude's a friend and he's usually right on the money with his legal analyses reading it right now actually
is that what you were looking for?
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz · -1 pts · 54d
Nah
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 54d
Don't know how to help you if you don't ask
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz · -1 pts · 54d
You good but preachin to the choir
Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 55d
Pretty sure Gryfdindor is getting an RV and some luxury vacations.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 55d
and being the favorite collectible of a nazi billionaire.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 55d
i dont think i ever seen rowling had a black character rin her books, she likely doesnt want them in there if they arnt a stereotype.
kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 53d
Oh, she did. He was called Kingsley Shacklebolt, because actually calling him Civil Rights Slavery was a little too on the nose.
Sonicdemon86@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 55d
It was four not three Brett Kavanaugh also has said the 14th only applies for those that are American citizens and that it was Federal Law that Trump broke not the constitution.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 15 pts · 55d
uncle ruckus hates his own people.
tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 55d
His name being Thomas is like Dump's batman villain pool guy having a company called Greenwater. Satirists these days are dead
daannii@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 55d
They were on the island and there are blackmail videos. .. that's why.
darkdemize@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 55d
I'd have expected Roberts or Kavanaugh before Gorsuch. I'm just glad they didn't join the dissent.
Sonicdemon86@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 55d
Kavanaugh voted with them on the Constitution stating that it was only federal law that was broken.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 55d
probably too much attention on the scotus/president right now. i guaranteed they will try this when everyone is distracted again.
starman2112@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 54d
I had money on Barrett, but only because I forgot about Gorsuck. Knew Uncle Tom would be one of the three though
rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 55d
I wish them a very
[fedposting]aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 55d
Mentioning JK properties promotes transphobia.
The witch only disappears when we all stop acknowledging her.
JasonDJ@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 55d
So referencing Harry Potter empowers the TERFs?
Why does this sound familiar?
It's weird how, in reading the later books or watching the movies, you realize that you can replace mudblood with any other slur and it is the same story that's been told many times in history.
It's weirder how you can replace mudblood with queer or transfem,
It's weirder how JK is fucking Dolores Umbridge (who is honestly one of my most hated characters in literature) in that world.
SnowzSan@lemmy.ca · -5 pts · 55d
Jesus Christ, man. No one cares and this has nothing to do with either of those things.
Turret3857@infosec.pub · 20 pts · 55d
guess I'm no one.
TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 55d
I'm sorry. I didn't say it. But I know that when I get frustrated I get sloppy and say hurtful things. a lot.
I see you. And I care.
Turret3857@infosec.pub · 4 pts · 55d
❤️
HailSeitan@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 55d
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 55d
Fuck off all the
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 55d
Please advise which cases
Washedupcynic@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 55d
Those three ruled in favor of doing away with birthright citizenship.
unemployedclaquer@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 55d
Trash